Software raid 1 drive(s) failed

Curious on what to do with a RAID 1 Drive (s) failure? I've searched the community and cannot find similar issue/answers.
Configuration:
One 1TB OS & App Drive is fine
Two 3TB RAID 1 Drives for Video scratch are fine
Two 2TB RAID 1 Data Drives are my issue
     I'm using the software raid in OSX and it shows "2TB Data Drive/Mirrored Offline"
     Both drives have "Failed" next to them
I have backup this Data Drive in Time Machine and a recent full back up to a single drive that is off site.  I believe I have a good back up strategy with Time Machine and offsite back ups via Voyager S3.  I guess we'll find out!
My question is how do I find out if it's a HW issue or SW issue with this configuration ?  And then how to go about recovering them?
Initially when I looked in Disk Utility it appeared that only one of the 2TB drives had "Failed" next to it but now after a reboot "Failed" is next to both drives.
My initial hope was that one of the drives had failed and I'd be able to just replace that drive and the RAID System would rebuild from the other drive.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Thanks

TommyH wrote:
My initial hope was that one of the drives had failed and I'd be able to just replace that drive and the RAID System would rebuild from the other drive.
RAID 1 just copies the same data to two (or more) drives at the same time, it's only for mission critical data loss requirements where a drive failure during writing would be catastrophic. Like taking purchasing orders or getting a phone call from ET for example.
RAID 0 is dangerous as the data path is separated to how many drives in the RAID 0 set, one drive glitches and all data is lost. But provides insane speeds.
RAID 5 is a much more reliable, it combines many drives (4 or more for more speed) splitting the data path but also has redundancy factor that if a drive dies it can be replaced and the data is recovered from the other drives. Usually a RAID 5 is in a external enclosure with it's own cooling and hardware controllers, not software based RAID where your CPU is being overloaded.
There are other forms of RAID some combinations like RAID 1+0, RAID 6, 10 and so forth, you can find out more about the more eclectic RAID types online.
RAID 5 is more ideally suited to video requirements for data storage, with perhaps a RAID 0 as a scratch disk or a RAID 0 + 1 (the RAID 0 is mirrored to another RAID 0) if your going to take a while working on it that increases the potential of failure.
Once the work is completed, it's sent to the RAID 5 where it's safe with it's redundancy and speed.
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/RAID/Desktop
The thing to remmeber with the failed RAID 1 Data drive is the data is still on the drive, even though it failed and perhaps things are messed up a little on it on the directory. All the drive needs is to be told it's not part of a RAID 1 anymore, that it's a normal drive, a simple fix, but I don't know how to go about it.
You have two drives and two chances to recover the data off off, simply disconnect one data drive and reboot, see if it will mount and or you can repair the drive in Disk Utility.
If not pull one drive out and stick another blank one in there and download Data Rescue and simply recover the files to the new blank drive. DR works by simply reading the files themselve, not the file struture or anything else.
Software RAID is unreliable, it depends upon the CPU. Opt to get a external RAID where it's based in hardware instead. Use eSATA if all possible.
Also consider using backup software, like Carbon Copy Cloner which can be scheduled to make a backup of your data during the middle of the night. This way if something happens to either your boot drive or a data drive, the clone won't immediately copy the issue to the other drive like a RAID 1 does.
Also Carbon Copy Cloner makes "hold option" bootable OS X boot drive clones, which TimeMachine doesn't.
Also TM kicks in what, like once a hour? It's likely what caused your issue, CCC will work when you schedule it.  TM is for consumers, not video pro's like yourself.
If you need even heavier iron as a external RAID setup and more expertise, then see these guys
http://www.macgurus.com/

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    the Disk2vhd forum. I believe we will get a better assistance there.
    If anything I misunderstand or any update, please don’t hesitate to let me know.
    Hope this helps.
    Best regards,
    Justin Gu

  • Server 2003 Software RAID-1 Fail - System won't boot

    Have a Windows 2003 Server with software RAID-1, and the primary drive failed.
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    timeout=30
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  • 10.9 update effects on software RAID drives

    Hi everyone,
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    Is there any change that the software raid drives won't mount properly after 10.9 update?
    Thanks,

    Hi.
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    I didn't loose valuable data, it was primarily a lot of Final Cut render files, but I still wanna find a way to do the upgrade with having to copy and de-RAID the disks.
    I'll be posting when I have any information on whats going wrong/how to do the upgrade and if any one gave any info, please share.
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  • Will OSX software Raid-0 on external drive be regonized elseware?

    Are RAID setups created in Disk util recognized in other computers. Say i have 2 external drives (over eSata on my 08 mac pro) in a raid 0 from disk util, can I plug these two drives into another mac pro and have them work?
    Basically, are software raid setups from disk utilily readible from all macs?

    Both systems would have to have their own controllers or ports, but yes, they should move and work just the same on both.
    There are Port Multiplier cases and controllers, and there are the 2 ODD ports people use, or direct connect SATA external controllers.
    You can even create a RAID internal or external and move it and it will work, or change the drive bay and order of your drives, the RAID will still work and be intact.
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  • Failed to create RAID logical drive WAE-7371-k9

    hi all  we have cisco wae-7371-k9 , we wanna recreate RAID device using cd recovery. we booting on cd, and when we done with option numbers 2,3,5 succes but when we came on option 7, we cannot recreate RAID, it failed, following the log: Installer Main Menu:     1. Configure Network     2. Manufacture flash (done)     3. Install flash cookie     4. Install flash image from network     5. Install flash image from cdrom     6. Install flash image from disk     7. Recreate RAID device (WAE-674/7341/7371 only)     8. Wipe out disks and install .bin image     9. Exit (Eject and reboot) Choice [0]: 7 Recreate RAID device option is selected   All disk data will be lost.   Are you sure you want to recreate RAID array? [n]: y Saving random seed... dd: opening `/state/random-seed': No such file or directory   No volume groups found Controllers found: 1  All data in logical drive 1 will be lost. Deleting: logical drive 1 ("")  Command completed successfully. Controllers found: 1  A selected physical drive is not available for use.  Command aborted. Failed to create RAID Logical drive. (1,2)     MODEL: OE7371    FLASH: found, directory validated   COOKIE: valid    IMAGE: 4.3.5.7 FLASHDEV: /dev/sda  what's wrong with wae ?if we run command show disk detail, all hard disk detected    NO-HOSTNAME# sh disk det  RAID Physical disk information:   disk00: Ready                      JTX1470L    286102 MB   disk01: Ready                      JTX1B24L    286102 MB   disk02: Ready                      JTX1B9SL    286102 MB   disk04: Ready                      JTWSEBWL    286102 MB   disk05: Ready                      JTX0VYRL    286102 MB  RAID Logical drive information:  Mounted file systems:  MOUNT POINT      TYPE       DEVICE                SIZE     INUSE      FREE USE%  Disk encryption feature is disabled.  can you help, what's the problem .?

    Budi,
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    2,3, 5,8,7,8, remove the disk and 9
    Please log the session then we can see how it went
    Hope this helps!
    Jorge

  • Failed Disk Utility Software Raid

    My external RAID hasn't been mounting as easily as normal so I opened Disk Utility to repair disk or whatnot and it shows one drive as failed. Not sure what this means or how I should proceed. I'd be surprised if that drive is dead. What does the Rebuild button do? I have backed up all the data on the mirror, but am not sure how to proceed. I'd like to keep this info on the RAID if possible.
    Dual2 G5 & Powerbook G4   Mac OS X (10.4.4)  

    From Disk Utility's Help:
    A disk in a RAID set has failed or is missing
    Disk Utility monitors the status of the disks in a RAID set. If you see a message that a disk is missing or has failed, there are several things you can try to solve the problem.
    If a disk is missing, make sure it is connected to power and turned on, and that it's connected to your computer. If you are using a FireWire or USB disk, you may need to disconnect it then connect it again.
    Use the First Aid pane to repair the disks in the RAID, then check the RAID set to see if it still reports an error. You may need to unmount the RAID set to repair the disks.
    In some cases, you might need to quit and reopen Disk Utility or restart your computer and then check the RAID set.
    If you are using a mirrored RAID set, there might be an error while writing data to the disk. Click Rebuild in the RAID pane of Disk Utility.
    If you are using a striped RAID set, delete the damaged RAID set. Your data may be lost. Be sure to back up the disks in your RAID set and other data regularly.
    If you have a persistent problem with a disk in a mirrored RAID set, you may need to replace it. After you replace the damaged disk, click Rebuild to rebuild the RAID set.[/i[
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  • Partitioning two drives to enable OSX and XP software raid.

    Hi Guys,
    I have found out that XP support software raid 0 so I am wondering if I can do this.
    I have 4 disks in the bays.
    Disk 1 - OSX System disk
    Disk 2 - XP System disk.
    Now I want to partition Disks 3 and 4 into 4 partitions and use OSX software raid on 2 of the partitions and XP software raid on the other two.
    I am pretty sure that this is ok with XP, is it ok with osx as well?
    Cheers
    Andy

    Hi AndrewCapon;
    Could you please tell me exactly what you expect to gain with RAID? I notice that you have never told us what form of RAID you expect to implement here. Different versions of RAID provide different benefits.
    I think this is the much larger questions. So often I find that users have totally unrealistic expectations of what RAID will do for them.
    Also please be aware that RAID is in no way a replacement for backup. In fact if you use RAID for storage of your data a good backup plan is crucial.
    Allan

  • Software raid won't boot after updating to "mdadm" in mkinitcpio.conf

    After a power outage I've discovetred the config I was using (with raid in mkinitcpio.conf) no longer works, it's mdadm now - that's fine.  I've updated that and re-run mkinitcpio successfully, however my system is unable to boot from the root filesystem /dev/md2 like so:
    Waiting for 10 seconds for device /dev/md2 ...
    Root device '/dev/md2' doesn't exist. Attempting to create it.
    ERROR: Unable to determine major/minor number of root device '/dev/md2'.
    You are being dropped to a recovery shell
        Type 'exit' to try and continue booting
    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
    [ramfs /]#
    As far as I can see from reading various threads and http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ins … AID_or_LVM I'm doing the right things now (although I'm not using lvm at all, which makes the installation document a little confusing).
    I think I've included all the appropriate bits of config here that should be working.  I assume I've missed something fundamental - any ideas?
    menu.lst:
    # (0) Arch Linux
    title  Arch Linux  [/boot/vmlinuz26]
    root   (hd0,0)
    kernel /vmlinuz26 root=/dev/md2 ro
    initrd /kernel26.img
    mkinitcpio.conf:
    HOOKS="base udev autodetect pata scsi mdadm sata filesystems"
    fstab:
    /dev/md1 /boot ext3 defaults 0 1
    /dev/md2 / ext3 defaults 0 1
    mdadm.conf
    ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=0.90 UUID=7ae70fa6:9f54ba0a:21
    47a9fe:d45dbc0c
    ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=0.90 UUID=20560268:8a089af7:e6
    043406:dbdabe38
    Thanks!

    Hi magec, that's quite helfpul - I've certainly got further.
    Before I was doing this to set up the chroot (which is what is suggested in the wiki article about setting up software raid):
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    mdadm -A /dev/md2 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2
    mount /dev/md2 /mnt
    mount /dev/md1 /mnt/boot
    mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
    mount -t proc none /mnt/proc
    chroot /mnt /bin/bash
    But based on your suggestion it's working better
    mdadm -A /dev/md1 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1
    mdadm -A /dev/md2 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2
    mount /dev/md2 /mnt
    mount /dev/md1 /mnt/boot
    mount -t proc none /mnt/proc
    mount -t sysfs none /mnt/sys
    mount -n -t ramfs none /mnt/dev
    cp -Rp /dev/* /mnt/dev
    chroot /mnt /bin/bash
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    md: md2 stopped.
    md: bind<sdb2>
    md: bind<sda2>
    raid1: raid set md2 active with 2 out of 2 mirrors
    md2: detected capacity change from 0 to 32218349568
    mdadm: /dev/md2 has been started with 2 drives.
    md2: Waiting 10 seconds for device /dev/md2 ...
    unknown partition table
    mount: mounting /dev/md2 on /new_root failed: No such device
    ERROR: Failed to mount the real root device.
    Bailing out, you are on your own. Good luck.
    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job contol turned off
    [ramfs /]#
    The bit that really confuses me is this:
    [ramfs /]# cat /proc/mdstat
    Personalities : [raid1]
    md2 : active raid1 sda2[0] sdb2[1]
    31463232 blocks [2/2] [UU]
    md1 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1]
    208704 blocks [2/2] [UU]
    unused devices: <none>
    [ramfs /]# mount /dev/md2 /new_root
    mount: mounting /dev/md2 on /new_root failed: No such file or directory
    [ramfs /]# ls /dev/md2
    /dev/md2
    [ramfs /]#
    So the array is up, the device node is there but it can't be mounted?  Very strange.
    Last edited by chas (2010-05-02 11:24:09)

  • Installing grub2 1.99rc1 on Linux Software RAID (/dev/md[0-x])

    Hello!
    In the last days I tried to install Archlinux x64 on my server. This server consists of 4 SATA drives. I'm using Linux software Raid with the following configuration:
    mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --auto=yes --level=10 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1
    mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md1 --auto=yes --level=10 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdc2 /dev/sdd2
    mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md2 --auto=yes --level=0 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdb3 /dev/sdc3 /dev/sdd3
    md0 --> / including /boot
    md1 --> /data (my storage partiton)
    md2 --> my swap partion
    In the last step of the installer I don't installed grub and leave the installer without installing a bootloader.
    I mounted the /dev folder to /mnt/dev and chrooted in my new system:
    chroot /mnt bash
    In my new system I installed the new grub2 bootloader with:
    pacman -S grub2-bios
    In the next step I tried to install the bootloader to the MBR with the following command:
    grub_bios-install --boot-directory=/boot --no-floppy --recheck /dev/md0
    But I get the following error:
    /sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
    Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/md0 failed.
    Please report this together with the output of "/sbin/grub-probe --device-map="/boot/grub/device.map" --target=fs -v /boot/grub" to <[email protected]>
    I also tried to install the grub2 directly on my discs with the following command:
    grub_bios-install --boot-directory=/boot --no-floppy --recheck /dev/sda
    But the error is the same as above.
    Following the instruction of the error message I executed the following command:
    /sbin/grub-probe --device-map="/boot/grub/device.map
    I get a large debug output:
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: scanning hd3,msdos2 for LVM.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd3 is 3907029168.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: no LVM signature found
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: scanning hd3,msdos1 for LVM.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd3 is 3907029168.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: no LVM signature found
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: scanning hd4 for LVM.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd4 is 2068992.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: no LVM signature found
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd4 is 2068992.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: scanning hd4,msdos1 for LVM.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: the size of hd4 is 2068992.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: no LVM signature found
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: changing current directory to /dev.
    /sbin/grub-probe: info: opening md0.
    /sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
    There is a tutorial for installing grub2 at ArchLinux in the wiki:
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Grub2
    But I can't find any solution for my problem.
    Does anybody know a solution for this problem?
    Thanks for help
    Best regards,
    Flasher
    Last edited by Flasher (2011-03-03 20:13:13)

    hbswn wrote:Maybe it cannot handle the new mdadm format. Here the other partitions have version 0.90. Only the failing md0 has version 1.2:
    I'm sure it is the cause of the problem. But not new format. The old one (0.90) is incompatible with grub2.
    I hit the same problem and today I managed to fix it.
    What I did: I copied /boot to tmp directory, destroyed /dev/md0 (my /boot) with metadata 0.90, created new /dev/md0 (metadata 1.2), copied back /boot content.
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  • Software RAID Failure - my experience and solution

    I just wanted to share this information with the iCloud community.
    I searched a bit and did not find much information that was useful with regard to my software RAID issue.
    I have 27 inch Mid 2011 iMac with SSD and Hard drive which has been great.
    I added an external hard drive (I think if I mention any brand name the moderator will delete this post) which includes an nice aluminum case with two 3 TB hard drives within it, and it has a big blue light on the front and is connected via Thunderbolt. This unit is about 2 years old and I have it configured in a 3 TB mirrored RAID (RAID 1) via a software RAID configured via Mac OS Disk Utility. 
    I had at one point a minor glitch which was fixed using another piece of software (again if I mention a brand the moderator will delete this post) which is like a 'Harddrive Fighter' or similar type name LOL.   So otherwise that RAID has served me well as a site for my Time Machine back up and Aperture Vault, etc.  (I created a 1.5 TB Sparse bundle for Time Machine so that the backup would not use the entire 3 TBs)
    I recently purchased a second aluminum block of drives, and set that up as a 4 TB RAID 1.
    Each of the two RAIDs are set with the option of “Automatically rebuild RAID mirror sets” checked.
    I put only about 400 gb on the new RAID to let it sit for a ‘burning in period.’
    A few days ago the monitoring software from the vendor who sells the aluminum block of drives told me I had a problem.  One of the drives had “Failed.”   The monitoring software strangely enough does not distinguish the drives so you can figure out which pair had the issue, so I assumed it was the New 8 TB model.  Long story short, it was the older 6 TB model, but that does not matter for this discussion.
    I contacted the vender and this is part of their response.
    “This is an indication that the Disk Utility application in Mac had a momentary problem communicating with the drive mechanism. As a result, it marked that drive as "failed" in the header information. Unfortunately, once this designation is applied to a drive by the OS, the Disk Utility will thereafter refuse to attempt any further operations with that disk until the incorrect "failed" marker is manually cleared off the drive.”
    That did not sound very good to me…..back up killed by a SOFTWARE GLITCH?
    “The solution is to remove the corrupted volume header, and allow the generation of a new one….This command will need to be done for each disk in the array… (using Terminal)…
    diskutil zerodisk (identifier)
    …3. After everything is finished, you should be able to exit Terminal, and go back into the Disk Utility Application to re-configure the RAID array on the device.”
    Furthermore they said.
    “If the Disk Utility has placed a flag into the RAID array header (which exists on both drives) then performing this procedure on a single drive will not correct anything.”
    And…
    “When a drive actually does fail, it typically stops appearing in the Disk Utility application altogether. In that circumstance, it will never be marked "failed" by the Disk Utility, so the header erase operation is not needed.”
    This all sounded like a bad idea to me. And what does the Vendors RAID monitor software say then?  “Disk Really Really FAILED, check for a fire.”
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    First I noted that the OS Disk Utility did NOT show a fault in the RAID. It listed both RAIDS as “Online.’ Thus no rebuilding was needed and it did not begin the rebuild process.
    The Vendors disk monitor software saw some fault, but Mac was still able to read and write to the RAID, both disks in the mirror.  I wrote a folder to the RAID and with various rebooting steps I pulled the “Bad” drive and looked at the “Good” Drive….the folder was there…I put the Bad drive back in and pulled the Good Drive and the folder was there on the “bad” drive.  So it wrote to both drives.  AND THE VENDORS MONITORING SOFTWARE SHOWED THE PREVIOUSLY LABELED ‘BAD’ DRIVE AS ‘GOOD’ AND THE MISSING DRIVE SLOT AS ‘BAD’.
    My stumbled FIX.   I moved a bunch of files off the failed RAID to the new RAID  but before I moved the sparse bundle, a folder of 500 gigs movies and some other really big folders the DISK UTILITY WINDOW (which I still had open) now showed that the RAID had a Defect and began rebuilding the mirror set itself, out of the blue!   I don't know why this happened.  But moving about 1/2 of the data off of it perhaps did something?  Any Ideas?
    This process took a few hours as best I can tell (let it run overnight) and the next day the RAID was fine and the Vendors RAID monitor did not show a fault any longer.
    So, the Vendors RAID monitoring software reporting a “FAILED” drive without any specific error codes to look up.  Perhaps they could have more info for the user on the specific fault?  The support line of the the Vendor said with certainty “the Volume Header is corrupted” and THE ONLY FIX is to completely ZERO THE DRIVE! This was not necessary as it turns out.
    And the stick in the eye to me…..
    “I've also sometimes seen the drives get marked as "failed" by the disk utility due to a shaky connection. In some cases, swapping the ends of the Thunderbolt cable will help with this. Something to try, perhaps, if your problems come back. “
    Ya Right…..
    Mike

    Follow up.
    After going through the Zeroing process and rebuilding the RAID set three times, with various configurations, LaCie finally agreed to repair the unit under warrantee.
    I tried swapping the power supplies and thunderbolt wires, tried taking the drive out of series with the newer big brother of it.  And it still failed after a few days.
    I just wanted to share more of what I learned with regard to rebuilding the RAID sets via the Terminal.  The commands can be typed partially and a help paragraph will come up to give VERY cryptic descriptions of the proper use of the commands.
    First Under terminal you can used the command "diskutil appleRAID list" to list those drives which are in the RAID.  This gives you the ID number for each physical drive. For example:
    AppleRAID sets (1 found)
    ===============================================================================
    Name:                 LaCie RAID 3TB
    Unique ID:            84A93ADF-A7CA-4E5A-B8AE-8B4A8A6960CA
    Type:                 Mirror
    Status:               Online
    Size:                 3.0 TB (3000248991744 Bytes)
    Rebuild:              manual
    Device Node:          disk4
    #  DevNode   UUID                                  Status     Size
    0  disk3s2   D53F6A81-89F1-4FB3-86A9-8808006683C2  Online     3000248991744
    -  disk2s2   E58CA8F5-1D2C-423A-B4BE-FBAA80F85879  Spare      3000248991744
    ===============================================================================
    In my situation with the failed RAID, I had an extra disk in this with the status of Missing/Failed. 
    The command is "diskutil appleRAID remove" and the cryptic help paragraph says:
    Usage:  diskutil appleRAID remove MemberDeviceName|MemberUUID
            RAIDSetVolumePath|RAIDSetDeviceName|RAIDSetUUID
    MemberDeviceName|MemberUUID  is the number listed in the "diskutil appleRAID List" command,  and
    RAIDSetVolumePath|RAIDSetDeviceName|RAIDSetUUID is the Device Node for the RAID which here is /dev/disk4.
    I used this command to remove the third entry (missing/failed), I did not copy the terminal window text on that one, so I cannot show the list of three disks.
    I could not get to remove the disk2s2 disk listed as SPARE, as it gave an error message:
    Michaels-iMac:~ mike_aronis$ diskutil appleraid remove E58CA8F5-1D2C-423A-B4BE-FBAA80F85879 /dev/disk4
    Started RAID operation on disk4 LaCie RAID 3TB
    Removing disk from RAID
    Changing the disk type
    Can't resize the file system on the disk "disk2s2"
    Error: -69827: The partition cannot be resized
    But I was able to remove it using the graphical interface Disk Utility program using the delete key.
    I then rebuilt the RAID set by dragging the second drive back into the RAID set.
    I could not get the command: "diskutil appleRAID update AutoRebuild 1 /dev/disk4" to work, because even though it was trying to execute it HUNG.  I put the two drives into my newer LaCie 2big as my attempt at further trouble shooting the RAID (this was not suggested by LaCie tech), rebuild the RAID and now I am going to leave it setup that way for a few days before I ship it back to just see if the old drives work fine in the new RAID box (thus proving the RAID box is the problem). I tried the AutoRebuild 1 command just now and it gave an error.
    Michaels-iMac:~ mike_aronis$ diskutil appleraid update autorebuild 1 /dev/disk4
    Error updating RAID: Couldn't modify RAID (-69848)
    Michaels-iMac:~ mike_aronis$
    In my haste to rebuild the RAID set for the third or forth time as LaCie led me through the testing this and test that phase, I forgot to click the "Auto Rebuild" option in the Disk Utility program.
    Question for the more experienced:
    As I was working on this issue, I notice that each time I rebooted and did work in the Terminal (with and without the RAID plugged in to the thunderbolt connection) I notice that the list of drives would change and my main boot drive would not stay listed as drive 0!  Some times it would be drive 0, sometimes the RAID would be listed as Drive 0.  It's strange to me...I would have thought the designation for Drive0 and Drive1 would always be my two build in drives (SSD and spinning drive).
    Mike

  • Migrating Software RAID 1 ?!

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    thanks

    Did a bit more research, SCSI and storage use to be my hobby, and Mac Pro my passion. So I tried to dig into this further. SSD is very popular and people want to have 2 x SSDs along with 3-4 traditional mechanical hard drives. I just don't see going with an external type solution.
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    You want a mirror - that should be fine.
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    Like this?
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    Or this one,
    *eSATA 6G PCIe 2.0 RAID Capable Controller Card*
    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/MXPCIE6GRS/
    http://www.newertech.com/products/pcieraidesata.php
    Reviewed here (and this should be req'd site to check also for Mac Pro owners)
    http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MAXPowereSATA6G.html
    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/IDE/NewerTech6GeSATA/Newertech6GeSataCard.html
    There is also FirmTek.
    http://firmtek.com/seritek/seritek-2me4-e/perform/
    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Firmtek/SATAE6G/
    Highpoint has always depended on driver.
    Popular kit to install two SSDs in optical drive bay:
    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MM352A52MP9/
    External dual drive (SATA only, which is what I use and want for native SATA speeds)
    http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Other%20World%20Computing/MESATATBEK/?APC=XLR8You rMac09
    The ideal would be to boot off the two SSDs, and yes it would help to have a PCIe with internal ports, then use them in stripe RAID, not mirror (you can backup the OS and have a clone on external FW800; on sparse disk image of 100GB; on a small internal drive even), and when it changes.
    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/IDE/SSDin_Mac_Pro/SSD_install_inMacPro.htm#storytop
    For an internal controller, HPT RR640 IF it was supported at all on Mac
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816115077
    http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3309/highpointrocketraid_640_sata_6gb_s_4_port_pci_e_2_0controller/index.html
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/01/04/high-point-rocketraid-640-review/5
    To boot in 64-bit mode, all drivers and even some application plug-ins I believe have to be 64-bit, but not everything is 64-bit mode compatible.
    one SSD in optical drive bay for system
    no need to mirror
    no controller
    use the 2nd for scratch or an expensive off line backup
    If the SSD fails, swap out, use clone, rebuild and restore.
    No meed for mirror, AND disks writes are where SSDs can suffer and slow down.
    But DO consider SoftRAID 4.x, great support for SSDs and driver even for non-RAID, but their mirror RAID is a notch above.
    http://www.softraid.com
    I found Highpoint RR Quad on Apple Store:
    Is this compatible with the new 2010 Mac Pros? bootable?
    http://store.apple.com/us/product/H1113LL/A#compatibility
    I think you would get more mac pro owners to read and help in Mac Pro forum. And don't forget to stop by and check XLR8YOURMAC web site for news and tips about hardware upgrades and reports.

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