SOLUTION: Beta Camera Profiles Cause Lightroom to Hang

I finally found what was killing my LR2 install. I was moving and processing images when the CPU went to 50% (one core at 100%).
I ran a file monitor program and discovered LR2 was scanning *all* the camera profiles for each image selected. This is pointless since I had them all set to ACR 4.4!!!
So if you're experiencing hangs, go visit the following directory and delete the profiles:
c:\documents and settings\All Users\Application Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles

Thomas, I have a few questions, if you don't mind:
"When you say scan every profile, do you mean all 300+ profiles"
Does that mean that the Camera Profile Calibration Beta packages every profile available to Adobe in the download? Thinking about it after reading this post, I only remember choosing the OS being used.
"or just the 10 or so profiles for the camera model you select?"
I didn't think that we selected the camera model, instead thought Lightroom determined the camera used (presumably from the camera model information listed in the photographs metadata) and made the profiles for that camera available in the drop-down list.
Will Adobe consider making camera profiles for each camera model available as a separate file, then let the user choose which camera profile(s) they need and download into a "profile folder." If so, it would be nice if the user could return to the download page and choose additional profiles when needed (such as when one buys the latest/greatest camera) and add them to the profile folder without over-riding or or removing profiles previously downloaded.
Without going OT about which camera systems people use and why, I would think that everyone would agree that there isn't any need to load all 300+ profiles when you only need the profiles for the camera(s) one uses. This is especially true if it causes the program to run slower than it would without all those profiles one wouldn't use anyway.
One other thing about the profile presets, if you don't mind - will Adobe also consider adding access to the camera profiles in the the Library Module's Quick Develop area near the Saved Presets option. It would be nice if you could access the profiles without switching over to the Develop Module.
Thanks, in advance, for any response provided.
Regards, JML

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Beta Camera Profiles installation problem

I downloaded Camera Raw 4.5 Plug in, which is needed for the beta Camera Profiles installation. CR 4.5 is definitely in the right place and working fine. According to Adobe FAQ, beta Camera Profiles belong in the Adobe folder in Camera Raw. I copy here:
Where are the new profiles installed on my computer?
On Mac OS X:
/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles
I do not have CR 4.5 in my Adobe folder, only in Plug ins. I do still have CR v 4 in the Adobe folder, but not v 4.5.
My question is... does the beta version of Camera Profiles automatically put Camera Raw 4.5 in the Adobe folder, or do I need to do something to get CR 4.5 there. I've already messed up on the download/installation of Camera Profiles by moving it into CR 4.5 the plug-in folder. When I realized my error, I have trashed that.
Can someone give me some input here ? I'm clueless. This is not a BIG DEAL, as I'm getting along fine with CS3. I;m just curious to know how CR 4.5 gets in the Adobe folder>
Thanks
carolyn

Steph_Kimball,
You're the one who is mightily confused. :)
> the recently released BETA CAMERA PROFILES which may be chosen in lieu of ARC
Assuming "ARC" is a typo for ARC, the beta camera profiles are used in ARC, inside Camera Raw,
not
"in lieu of". The new profiles, once installed appear IN the Calibrate Tag in ACR, alongside any profiles there may be there for your camera model from earlier versions of ACR, in the very same menu, not
"in lieu of".
If you do NOT have a raw file generated by a Canon or Nikon camera supported by ACR 4.6 (I'll forget about ACR 4.5 for good now), you WILL NOT see the new beta profiles appear in the dropdown menu in the calibrate tag.
You HAVE to be opening an image from a camera that is supported by the beta profiles or you will NOT see them. You'd see only the profiles from older ACR versions there.
It's akin to not seeing JPEG as an available format if you try to save a 16-bit image file through Save As, because JPEG does not support 16-bit images.
ACR must be presented with a file generated by a specific camera model supported by the beta profiles, or you won't see the beta profiles. It's that simple.
I suggest you take this discussion to the ACR forum, where it belongs, and where the ACR team hangs out, participates very actively and will be able to set you straight.
I don't think you understand how ACR works.
You are adding to the confusion here, Steph, because you are confused yourself. If you go over to the ACR forum, you will be able to interact with the creator of ACR and Photoshop, Thomas Knoll, with ACR programmer Eric Chan, and with the man who literally wrote the book on Adobe Camera Raw, Jeff Schewe.

Beta Camera Profiles installation question

I downloaded Camera Raw 4.5 Plug in, which is needed for the beta Camera Profiles installation. CR 4.5 is definitely in the right place and working fine. According to Adobe FAQ, beta Camera Profiles belong in the Adobe folder in Camera Raw. I copy and quote here:
" Where are the new profiles installed on my computer?
On Mac OS X:
/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles "
I do not have CR 4.5 in my Adobe folder, only in Plug ins. I do still have CR v 4 in the Adobe folder, but not v 4.5.
My question is... does the beta version of Camera Profiles automatically put Camera Raw 4.5 in the Adobe folder, or do I need to do something to get CR 4.5 there in order to install the beta Camera Profiles ? I've already messed up on the download/installation of Camera Profiles by moving it into CR 4.5 the plug-in folder. When I realized my error, I have trashed that.
Can someone give me some input here ? I'm clueless. This is not a BIG DEAL, as I'm getting along fine with CS3. I;m just curious to know how CR 4.5 gets in the Adobe folder>
Thanks
carolyn

O.K. I understand about v 4.6. At the time I installed ACR 4.5, it was the version Adobe said was required. What has happened since then I was unaware of.
Where I have the ACR 4.5 plug in installed is EXACTLY the path you describe, not the HOME folder, but in my HD. I can show a screen shot but don't think that works in this space. To follow my ACR4.5 plug in path, which is the same as you say above, here it is:
HD/Library/App. Support / Adobe /Plugins/CS3/ File Formats / Camera Raw Plugin
When I am in Bridge, the window shows Camera Raw v 4.5 at the top. So I must have it in the right place. I think you misread my original post as the path I copied there was copied from the Ådobe FAQ! link for the Camera Profiles, NOT for ACR. Sorry if I was unclear.
I totally understand that the beta Camera Profiles and ACR do NOT reside in the same folder. ACR is in Plug ins, and the beta Camera Profiles go in the Adobe folder under Camera Raw. But I do NOT have ACR 4.5 in the Adobe folder so that I can put the profiles there. So what am I supposed to do ??

Beta camera profiles

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I'm trying Lightroom 5.0 and still not sure if I should use Photoshop instead, here is why :
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Camera Profiles in Lightroom 2

Dear all,
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Hello,
I upgraded to Lightroom 2.4, and installed Camera Raw 5.4. The Sony A330 is on the support list now. However, I cannot see the profiles under camera calibration in the develop tab. What gives with this? I shut down and reopened, but no good. I didn't reboot. Anyone know why I cannot see my profiles after I installed the update? I saw a video on Youtube, so I sort of know what to look for. I'm not seeing anything except the same Adobe Standard. I read google a bit for quick anwsers, but I am losing too much time now.
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I'm not sure what you are saying exactly. Adobe Camera RAW 5.4 support Sony A330. I saw a video on Youtube which show the profiles once installed that come up under Camera Calibration with the develop tab. LR 2.4, I believe works with Adobe Camera Profiles 5.4
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What I saw in the video, I cannot do, which is bring up those profiles in order to improve RAW photos to some degree as they were in the camera. I liked the demo and the improvements on color. I'm not saying I understand this very well.
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Sorry to ask such a stupid question, but how do you use/apply the profiles?
I know they are selected in the camera calibration tab, but are they camera specific? What is the best one to choose for 'normal' use? 'Camera standard'?
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I have been really impressed with the camera profiles - in my case the Standard NEF for a D3 - and posted a complimentary message to that effect on the Labs LR beta2 forum under the pseudonym Rockshead.
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They should produce the same EXACT version of the RAW file.
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