[solved] Cflags for AMD Athlon x4 750K

Hello there!
I'm not sure if I've posted in right place. If not, please forgive me.
Does anyone is familiar with proper cflags for AMD Athlon X4 750K B.E. ?
I've searched around and opinions differ. Some people apply =athlon, some =amdfam10...
I'm not sure which one is correct.
Thanks in advance for any info!
//Edit: seems that amdfam10 is for phenoms..
//Edit2: Maybe I should stick to =native?
Last edited by 0x29a (2014-02-07 17:53:24)

Super cool! Thanks a lot! It'll save me a looot of time

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I recently flashed the BIOS on my K7t Turbo2 board to the 3.6 version which supports AMD Athlon XP processors up to 2600+. However, after I installed the new cpu, set the core voltage to 1.65, the multiplier to 11.5 and the DCM value to 166 the computer would not boot. Instead I received a simple "Beep" then two to three seconds later, another "Beep." This continues to no avail and it takes almost ten "hard reboots" which is killing my hard disks to even get back into the BIOS configuration, wherein I modified the DCM settings to 133 instead of 166. Now the computer boots but continues to tell me:
Unknown Processor at 1533mhz
When I did get it to run at 1910mhz (notice 1910, not 1917 as it should be), it also said Unknown Processor. Then, on one of the three ocassions I was actually able to boot the computer at the higher clock speed, none of my drives appeared. On the second ocassion, the Linux boot process froze and on the third, Windows XP wouldn't boot. Now, if anyone has any suggestions as to what BIOS settings I can try, or even resetting my BIOS to a previous version, then trying to reflash it, that would be great.... If, however, this is more of an issue with an MSI BIOS patch, please release another version that works. Thanks much!
-Adam

Go with the Tbred 2400+ bud, Thats what i have at the mo in my KT3 Ultra 2C, and with my old MSI ti4200 with 128mb, it kept up with a K7N2 Delta ILSR which is running a Barton 2600+ and an MSI FX5600XT with 256mb (that rig only beats me on the extra test in 2001se and 2003 that the FX card covers).
Cant wait for my K7N2 Delta ILSR to arrive to go with my Ti4600.
Should happily blow the Barton rig away

AMD Athlon 2400+ core speed

I have recently purchased a new MSI KT4 Ultra (FISR)
MS-6590 motherboard and an AMD Athlon 2400+ processor.
However the motherboard is only picking up the processor to be an AMD Athlon 1800+. When I go into the bios and look at the CPU core speed it is set to 100Mhz when it should be 133Mhz. I would change this value but it is disabled (greyed out). How can I set my motherboard to use the processor correctly asa 2400+ ?
Thanks
Paul

Hi, i have similer problem, i have the same MB and chip the 2400xp and when i put it on 133mhz and 15x multi which is stated on the MSI website and save it in the bios, my monitor light flashes, its like my graphics card is not working, but i can hear my pc booting up, but i just can't see anything, i have updated my graphics card drivers and the bios for the MB but still no luck, i have to clear the cmos to get my monitor back but then the chip speed is back to 1800.
i have a ti4200 8x agp card and i am a little miffed as i didn't buy a 2gig chip to have it running at 1.6gig, does anyone have any idea.
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