[Solved] GT70 Registers as GE70 / Used live update 5

Hello everyone!
So I have a GT70 notebook, and when I register it on the MSI website, the product name says: GE70 0ND.
The serial number says GT70-0NDXXXXX....
So my question is: is my GT70 a hidden GE70? Does it matter? Are they the same and do they have the same drivers?
Also, I have another question: I used Live Update 5 a while ago, but now I saw the disclaimer, saying that it's not for notebooks...:( What do I do? How do I get rid of the drivers? Also, is there something like Live Update for notebooks aswell?
Thanks in advance!

Hi 14Died14,
For the registration problem, think it's better to contact MSI and ask them to check of your registration.
http://register.msi.com/
As you known Live Update 5 is not for notebook and the fastest way to uninstall all the drivers you installed by using live update is to do system reset and re-install all the drives. Sadly you'll have to download all the drivers and update them one by one. I'll strongly recommend you to re-install the drivers since there might be some unknown issues pops up if you're using the drivers from live update.
Which OS are you currently using?

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[cant post links]forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=169827.0
[cant post links]msi.com/product/mb/Z87GD65_GAMING.html#download
I have a few questions:
Why should i use that method? Is it better? And it says "Make sure that all win 8 options are disabled. (Fast Boot etc", after i update the bios can i just turn the settings on again?
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[Solved] GT70 Registers as GE70 / Used live update 5

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