[Solved] Installting A Pure systemd System From Scratch

Hello all,
A few months back I gave Arch a spin and it was great, but decided to wait for Windows 8 RTM to come out to check it out as well.
Windows 8 being the horrible thing it is, Arch is the way to go, and I would like to do a test installation alongside Windows 7, in order to make sure I can make the switch permanently.
Having followed the forums pretty consistently, it seems that systemd is the future.
Instead of waiting for it to be integrated (which is supposed to happen at some point), I was wondering if I can somehow install a pure systemd system as part of the basic installation and not installing initscripts at all.
Thanks, Adam.
Last edited by adam777 (2012-08-28 12:55:27)

mhertz wrote:
luvfree wrote:[...].
I'm going to reinstall anyway so why not wait until the iso doesn't pacstrap the old initscripts and sysvinit?
Just makes for a cleaner install all around.
I'm certainly not going to leave this install on with 4 installed desktop environments.[...]
I myself was also reinstalling alot and imaging and whatnot when I first began with linux(arch), but after some time I realised that it was pointless and linux dosen't need those reinstalls for optimization like windows did, and pacman has nifty switches to get you sorted on what you've explicitly installed and hence, can go delete the cruft not used anymore, or to list files not owned by any installed packages, to clean up in etc...
Nowadays, I newer reinstall unless something would go _really_ wrong, and only backup config-files and home-files, and keep a livecd around for rescue-operations, and an automated personal install script for if I ever do need to reinstall...
Anyway, of course it's your own choise
I understand and the arch way is awesome.
but it is still on the new side to me.
I've bloated this install with 4 desktop environments so a reinstall is inevitable. lol
once I settle on which one to keep I'll do just that.
it will be some time though I'm sure.
I'm just keeping my eye out for an iso without the old initscripts pacstapped to begin with.
it just HAS to be a cleaner install.
Thanks for your input though.
CHEERS.
Oh yeah and by the way I've used nothing but linux for over 10 years now.
No windoze here.
Last edited by luvfree (2012-09-05 03:40:22)

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Last edited by KimTjik (2012-12-02 13:11:53)

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>
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>
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karol wrote:
Create ~/.config/locale.conf
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$HOME config don't work either.
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Last edited by ImbaLocus (2012-10-30 23:41:08)

Thank you, this works.
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Last edited by ImbaLocus (2012-11-01 12:48:33)

[solved] my script in /usr/lib/systemd/system-sleep/ was erroneous

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EDIT:
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Last edited by ytech (2012-11-18 20:46:34)

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Nov 15 11:07:19 Arch2010p5 systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories...
Nov 15 11:07:19 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[1015]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/deluge.conf:1] Unknown group 'deluge'.
Nov 15 11:07:19 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[1015]: stat(/run/user/1000/gvfs) failed: Permission denied
Nov 15 11:07:19 Arch2010p5 systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Nov 15 11:07:19 Arch2010p5 systemd[1]: Failed to start Cleanup of Temporary Directories.
Nov 15 11:07:19 Arch2010p5 systemd[1]: Unit systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service entered failed state
[root@Arch2010p5 jeff]# systemctl status systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service - Recreate Volatile Files and Directories
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service; static)
Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Thu, 2012-11-15 10:52:44 PST; 20min ago
Docs: man:tmpfiles.d(5)
Main PID: 377 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
CGroup: name=systemd:/system/systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
Nov 15 10:52:44 Arch2010p5 systemd[1]: systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Nov 15 10:52:44 Arch2010p5 systemd[1]: Failed to start Recreate Volatile Files and Directories.
Nov 15 10:52:44 Arch2010p5 systemd[1]: Unit systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service entered failed state
[root@Arch2010p5 jeff]# journalctl -f /usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles
-- Logs begin at Thu, 2012-11-01 15:56:20 PDT. --
Nov 15 09:46:50 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[923]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/deluge.conf:1] Unknown group 'deluge'.
Nov 15 09:46:50 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[923]: stat(/run/user/1000/gvfs) failed: Permission denied
-- Reboot --
Nov 15 09:55:33 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[361]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/deluge.conf:1] Unknown group 'deluge'.
-- Reboot --
Nov 15 10:02:35 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[388]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/deluge.conf:1] Unknown group 'deluge'.
Nov 15 10:17:10 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[971]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/deluge.conf:1] Unknown group 'deluge'.
Nov 15 10:17:10 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[971]: stat(/run/user/1000/gvfs) failed: Permission denied
-- Reboot --
Nov 15 10:41:34 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[1151]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/deluge.conf:1] Unknown group 'deluge'.
Nov 15 10:41:34 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[1151]: stat(/run/user/1000/gvfs) failed: Permission denied
-- Reboot --
Nov 15 11:07:19 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[1015]: [/usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/deluge.conf:1] Unknown group 'deluge'.
Nov 15 11:07:19 Arch2010p5 systemd-tmpfiles[1015]: stat(/run/user/1000/gvfs) failed: Permission denied
Last edited by jeff story (2012-11-16 10:20:45)

Yes the deluge user is present, group deluge is not. I find the following quote from the wiki confusing though.
Yea I have tried troubleshooting via the wiki and much more.
wiki wrote:The default user for the Deluge daemon, is deluge, which is created upon package installation. You can change this in /etc/conf.d/deluged. Of course, the user needs to exist.
So ....... Is the word daemon implied to also mean group? If so, should user deluge belong to the group deluge?
The user deluge currently belongs to no groups.
Does the quote also imply that everything is ok as installed per default?
If not, it should simply specify that the user has to manually set up <user x> to belong to <group y>.
The last sentence further confuses things as far as I'm concerned. I'll try to guess the meaning of it.
Of course user deluge exists if it is created by the installation.
Is the sentence referring to the user deluge, the user(jeff) or who needs to belong to what?
I'll update the wiki to clarify if I can get an answer and verify it on my system.
Also I should mention that Deluge currently works great and also did before switching to systemd. Deluge is a default install as I have not changed any user or groups deluge.
[root@Arch2010p5 jeff]# cat /etc/passwd | grep d
daemon:x:2:2:daemon:/sbin:/bin/false
nobody:x:99:99:nobody:/:/bin/false
dbus:x:81:81:System message bus:/:/bin/false
deluge:x:125:125:Deluge user:/srv/deluge:/bin/false
smmsp:x:150:25:sendmail:/var/spool/mail:/bin/false
git:x:998:998:git daemon user:/:/bin/bash
gdm:x:120:120:Gnome Display Manager:/var/lib/gdm:/sbin/nologin
uuidd:x:996:996::/:/sbin/nologin
polkitd:x:102:102:Policy Kit Daemon:/:/bin/false
[jeff@Arch2010p5 ~]$ cat /etc/group | grep d
bin:x:1:root,bin,daemon
daemon:x:2:root,bin,daemon
adm:x:4:root,daemon,jeff
disk:x:6:root,xbmc
lp:x:7:daemon,jeff,remote
uuidd:x:68:
video:x:91:jeff,remote,xbmc
audio:x:92:xbmc
nobody:x:99:
printadmin:x:1000:jeff
gdm:x:120:
[root@Arch2010p5 jeff]# groups deluge
[root@Arch2010p5 jeff]#
[root@Arch2010p5 jeff]# groups jeff
adm lp wheel games video storage power vboxusers printadmin users
/etc/conf.d/deluge
OPTIONS=""
WEB_OPTIONS=""
EDITED TO ADD INFO
Last edited by jeff story (2012-11-16 02:41:41)

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