[Solved] MBP 13" Late 2011 - Dual booting

Hello,
Just had a question regarding making arch bootable on my system for dual booting. I've been looking all over the wiki and the internet for answer but I'm hvaing trouble figuring out exactly what I need to do because of conflincting information and outdated articles.
I've looked at grub, but that appears to be substituting the apple bootloader,which I don't want to do, and rEFInd I wasn't sure about either as I've read it's had issues with Yosemite.
Ideally I'd like to be able to boot Arch exactly like the Live CD, where I can boot to Arch from apple's menu by holding the option key and then booting to OSX if I don't do anything, that way I hopefully don't have to edit any of my Mac's partitions.
What would I need to do to be able to get it setup like I described (what I need to install and if I need to make boot partition, etc)?
Thanks.
Macbook Pro
Yosemite 10.10.2
13" Late 2011
2.8 GHz Core i7
750 GB HD
8GB Ram (upgraded)
Intel Graphics 3000
Update: I was able to figure out after even more digging around, for any of those wanting to know how I did it:
What I did was created another EFI partition (so I did not need to edit the Mac one) and then installed gummiboot to the ESP I just created. Works just as I described. I am able to select it by holding the ALT key. The only thing that needed to be fixed after installing was opening OSX and changing the default startup disk, otherwise it appeared to boot to the Linux EFI by default.
Last edited by Jordanss10 (2015-04-08 16:01:18)

Thank you, you're right... they do not restrict, but disencourage users from upgrading their machines to the state they want...
I do not think Apple testing labs have a lack of resources nor lack of time to do more testings...
Don't get me wrong, I'm an Apple fan, but if they know that 16 GB RAM works fine, why not update web server pages?

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[SOLVED] MacbookPro 8,1 13" - Dual boot with Mac OS X #rEFIt

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josemota wrote:
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Paulinnn wrote:
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mirapple6611,
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quote
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
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unquote
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Last edited by commsanjay (2012-10-14 08:08:54)

This is exactly why I have chosen to use windows MBR and syslinux
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Last edited by ackt1c (2012-10-14 02:32:55)

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