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Continuing conversion from other thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=128639
I made comments #14, #17, #19, & #22 in that thread that are relevant here.
rene wrote:Earlier you said that you DID need to restore the .pacsave files to have things working, whereas you now say differently so I'll refrain from further comment. If you still have problems after removing all the .pkla files and after replacing SLiM with LXDM you have a different problem than the ConsoleKit one, which IS likely the only problem the thread-starter and the others in this thread are having. We should therefore get out of here so that they can get their problem fixed without this thread wandering off into all sorts of directions.
That is true, but a subsequent update broke it.
Here are the updates I made on 11/05  {I might not have logged out/logged in or rebooted after installing the updates on 11/05 before posting to the thread above on that date - or possibly I was in another OS when I posted my first comment on 11/05 in the thread above}
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:10DT autoconf
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:10DT automake
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:10DT bash
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:11DT ca-certificates
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:13DT curl
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:10DT findutils
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:10DT gawk
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:13DT gedit
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:14DT gettext
PM M-05-11 2011 08:45:59DT gksu
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:14DT grep
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:13DT gtksourceview3
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:14DT gzip
PM M-05-11 2011 07:53:20DT intltool
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:14DT less
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:15DT lib32-glib2
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:15DT lib32-libdrm
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:15DT lib32-libffi
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:15DT lib32-readline
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:15DT libdrm
PM M-05-11 2011 07:53:20DT libfm
PM M-05-11 2011 08:45:59DT libgksu
PM M-05-11 2011 08:45:59DT libgtop
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:15DT libusb
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:15DT libva
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:16DT linux-firmware
PM M-05-11 2011 07:53:21DT lxmenu-data
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:10DT m4
PM M-05-11 2011 07:53:20DT menu-cache
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:14DT ncurses
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:16DT patch
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:16DT pciutils
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:16DT pkg-config
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:16DT prelink
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:10DT sed
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:16DT sqlite3
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:16DT tar
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:17DT thunar
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:18DT tzdata
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:18DT which
AM M-05-11 2011 05:37:18DT xfce4-session
Here are the updates I made on 11/06 & 11/07
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:51ST bison
PM M-07-11 2011 09:31:54ST cryptsetup
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:51ST db
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:51ST dialog
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:51ST expat
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:51ST flex
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:51ST gdbm
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST imagemagick
PM M-07-11 2011 09:31:54ST keyutils
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST krb5
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST lib32-libpciaccess
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST libcap
PM M-07-11 2011 09:31:54ST libdatrie
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST libldap
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST libpcap
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST libpipeline
PM M-07-11 2011 09:31:54ST libthai
PM M-07-11 2011 09:31:54ST module-init-tools
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST nano
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST popt
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST readline
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST talloc
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST texinfo
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST vi
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST wpa_actiond
PM M-06-11 2011 09:57:52ST wpa_supplicant
PM M-07-11 2011 09:31:54ST xorg-server
PM M-07-11 2011 09:31:54ST xorg-server-common
Around the above dates I installed pcmanfm to try it out, but subsequently uninstalled it.  Thunar was still working at the time.
Subsequently (today) I installed gvfs to see if it made any difference, but it did not.
Last edited by David Batson (2011-11-15 01:08:02)

Polkit-gnome was the missing ingredient.  With polkit-gnome installed the udisks.pkla file is not required.  One difference between the usdisks.pkla fix and the polkit-gnome fix is that you are prompted for root's password to mount the drive.  No problem for me there - I prefer it that way.
I did not decipher from the bug report that polkit-gnome was required for thunar in Xfce - only perhaps for thunar in gnome.  I wish this had been made more clear in the bug report I filed.
The thunar maintainer for arch wrote: Remove org.freedesktop.udisks.pkla; mounting/unmounting of removable media should continue to function through gvfs.  No mention that polkit-gnome was required as well (for all desktops I imagine).  I already did have polkit installed - just not polkit-gnome.  Polkit was working, just missing some pieces for full functionality.
In the end, I consider it a bug if a dependency is not listed as required or optional.
Package Details: thunar 1.2.3-2
Dependencies (16)
desktop-file-utils
exo
gtk2
hicolor-icon-theme
libexif
libnotify
libpng
libxfce4ui
libxfce4util
udev
gvfs (optional) - for trash support, mounting with udisk and remote filesystems
thunar-archive-plugin (optional) - create and deflate archives
thunar-media-tags-plugin (optional) - view/edit id3/ogg tags
thunar-volman (optional) - manages removable devices
tumbler (optional) - for thumbnail previews
xfce4-panel (optional) - for trash applet
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/thunar/
Package Details: gvfs 1.10.1-1
Dependencies (12)
avahi
dconf
fuse
libarchive
libcdio
libgdu
libsoup-gnome
gvfs-afc (optional) - AFC (mobile devices) support
gvfs-afp (optional) - Apple Filing Protocol (AFP) support
gvfs-gphoto2 (optional) - gphoto2 (PTP camera/MTP media player) support
gvfs-obexftp (optional) - ObexFTP (bluetooth) support
gvfs-smb (optional) - SMB/CIFS (Windows client) support
http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gvfs/

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