Some questions for K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hi guys I'm quite new to Amd64 and just got the Neo2 plat and 3000+ from garage sales 2 days back. Just wanna ask the experts here is it true that sata 1 and 2 for this board doesn't have pci locked? I read this in 1 of the reviews before and it stated something like this...
We should note here, that we did run into issues using SATA 1 and 2 and overclocking. We quickly found out that these two SATA connectors did not lock with the PCI lock. We switched our drive to SATA 3 or 4 and everything was just fine. I am not sure if this can be fixed with a bios update, but unless you like hard drives corrupted, you should use SATA 3 and 4 if you plan on overclocking.
http://www.bleedinedge.com/reviews/msi_neo/msi_neo_05.html
Anyone has any problems so far about this or this problem has been fixed by newer bios? Another thing is that I'm keen to overclock this chip as I'm reading those overclocking reviews but based on you guys experience, how far can I push using stock hsf with the current idle temp? My load temp for my current setup is 50c max running prime95 stable for 8hrs+
Cheers

Thanks for the posts guys been a great help. Now I'm reading the issues of this board for the link below and thanks Supershanks for the link. You been a great help
I like MSI products especially their board coz I find their stuff well design and distro is good. I'm also using 865PE Neo2 PLS on my prescott no problem so far but after reading the related problems of this Neo2 Plat from the link above, can I say this board is a quite a failure product?
When I just got this board, I'm having problems when trying to change the HT Multiplier. It just empty when I hit enter and refused to go back even when I hit esc key. Reboot and tried a few times till I figured out it can be changed using the +/- key but this problem is gone after that and my first impression is my new board spolit? I mean don't the engineers or tech guys check through before they released these board to the market? There's no QC for this? Maybe I'm wrong to use the word, QC or etc sorry I might not be good at this. I wonder if they knew this bug in the first place? If they do but refused to fix it and just release the board that's lame. If they don't then the QC or whatever final checking/testing is real bad for this board coz they don't even realized this problem
Now I saw the link for another problem of mine again
Problem description:
Starting-up the system gives you a hard lockup (freeze) with or without blank screen.
Some times, at boot time, the system says it is overclocked, but you know there is no overclock.
You must clear CMOS for be able to boot at every system startup.
I have this problem too and I'm going to read it but I don't need to clear bios, I just need to hit the power button again and the machine will boot to bios but this is quite irratating haha now I'm going to read to see how can I fix this problem.
Once again don't get the wrong idea, I'm not here to flame MSI coz I like their products too just that a quick browse of the link above made me realized this board has so many problems haha
Anyway thanks again for your time guys take care

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Sound Question for K8N Neo2 Platinum

Here's my current setup:
AMD FX-53
XP-120 heatsink
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Mobo.
1 GB Crucial Ballistix (Slots 1 & 2)
NVidia 6800 GT 256 MB
200 GB SATA SEAGATE HDD (SATA3)
Lite-on Dual Layer (Model# SOHW-1633S BLK)
Ultra X-Connect 500W PSU
I am presently using the onboard sound, and I am able to hear left and right channels of sound when using media player, winamp, etc. I can play both music and dvds.
I'm using the optical output on my mobo, and sending it to my Sony Home Theatre amplifier with an internal 5.1 decoder. No matter what I do, I can't seem to get 5.1 surround sound. I set the MSI Sound effect manager Speaker configuration to 6 Speakers, and I have my CD player transmitting sound via the normal 2 pin cd rom audio cable.
Does anyone know why I cannot get 5.1 surround sound when listening to DVD's??? Do I need to connect the digital output on my DVD burner? If so, where does it connect to the mobo?

My DVD drive didn't come with any kind of driver CD. I'm trying to use Media Player to run the DVD's. Is it compatible with Dolby Digital?
Has anyone ever used PowerDVD? This software came with the DVD burner, but I haven't installed it as I don't know much about it.

Ram question for K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hi all. I have the above mentioned motherboard in my system, with 2 x 512mb of DDR400 ram installed. I want to upgrade to 2gb at some stage in the near future, and was wondering if I can throw another two sticks of 512 in, or will I have to get 2 x 1gb sticks?
Cheers.

4x512MB stick works, however not guaranteed to run att full speed DDR400 ( depending on what CPU model / RAM controller - winchester/Venice/Opteron etc.). In general the later cpu models handles 4 sticks better then the older.
If not the CPU onboard RAM controller is up for the task, the RAM will run at 333mhz speed and give some worse performance compared to DR400 1T setting, however you will still enjoy the 2GB performance compared to 1GB 1T setting, when using application that use that much RAM.
Best would be 2x1024 sticks, to be sure about getting DDR400 speed 1T setting, but it could be worth trying adding another two 512MB of same model, because of the lower cost and set DDR400 ( 200mhz) manual in bios and increase RAM+CPU voltage some.
( Syar´s Easybios 1C3 is a good and stable biosversion that sets RAM voltage to 2.75v and some other RAM settings as good levels as default.)
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0
Some time ago, I did run 4x512 stick at DDR400 2T speed with a Winchester and Venice cpu, but suffered from less OC potential, compared with 2 sticks.
With my new opteron cpu, I can have a good OC with same 4 sticks of RAM, so for me it´s clearly a big differance between the "desktop" and "server" cpu models, and how they handle RAM.

Is it possible to order bios chip 1b for K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hi there im wondering if its possible to order from msi or elsewere bios 1b for K8N Neo2 Platinum seeing as i have the bios tools here, if so whats the install procedure and setup please or any other releviant information?, i have 1.5 everything works fine but theres no way i want to flash
Thanks Blackrat7768

Quote from: BlackRat7768 on 09-February-06, 21:34:23
My issues are:
Improve compatilbility problem with some USB 2.0 devices
BIOS reported incorrect CPU temperature.
If you have the d-bracket installed, it may help to completely disconnect it. Sometimes it will cause inaccurate temp readings. You can always plug it back in if you need it for troubleshooting.
I unhooked mine & my reported CPU temps dropped by 8C...

Question about K8N Neo2 Platinum mainboard.

About a couple of weeks ago I found that none of the USB ports of the K8N Neo2 Platinum mainboard are working correctly. Every time I plug a USB device I get the following error message:
"USB Device Not Recognized.
One of the USB devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned, and Windows does not recognize it. For assistance in solving this problem, click this message."
Because of this, I found that there's a device in the Device Manager called:
Under SCSI and RAID Controllers section:
+ AUL14T9L IDE Controller
The question is for the ones having this same motherboard:
Do you see this device as well?.
Thank you very much!

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Think you might try to clear CMOS.
I did it twice this week.
First time I left clearing the CMOS all night. The problem was not fixed.
Second time I left clearing the CMOS all night and I removed the battery as well. All night too. No luck
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But first please say what BIOS you got now
The most updated one: 1.0D. Should I try 1.B?
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About the unknown device, are motherboard drivers installed? Is there some USB or other devices attached you haven't mentioned?
I installed the motherboard drivers downloaded from the MSI web site:
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=587
They are the NVIDIA nForce3 System Drivers:
Win2K/XP driver package 5.03 contains the below components:
Ethernet NRM driver version 4.42 (WHQL)
Network management tools version 4.42
GART driver version 3.77 (WHQL) with updated uninstaller files
SMBus driver version 4.04 (WHQL) with updated uninstaller files
Win2K IDE 2.6 driver version 4.46 (WHQL) with updated uninstaller files
WinXP IDE 2.6 driver version 4.46 (WHQL) with updated uninstaller files
And believe me. Nothing is attached to USB ports.

Which power supply for k8n neo2 Platinum

I need to buy a new power supply for my computer. With the ATX12V v2.2 standard and ATX12V 2.01 and the "no -5v on new psu's" issue I'm at a loss as to what to look for. I have looked and cannot find what "standard" (is that even the correct term?) the k8n neo2 supports.
My main requirement is that the psu be 550-650 watts and have modular cables. I know someday I will have to upgrade my system to PCI-E and modern components, so I would like a PSU that would work now and in the future.
Could someone point me in the right direction?
Many thanks
system spec's
Motherboard- MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum
CPU- AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual core 4800 939 socket
Memory-CORSAIR 2X1G Twinx2048
Video- ATI HIS 4670 1GB AGP
HD- Seagate 100 gb 7200 rpm
Drives CD-DVD and CD-RW
PSU- Ultra X Connect 500W ATX
Sound- Creative SB Audigy2 Gamer
OS- WinXP Home SP3 32 bit

Why do you need 550-650W or is that just because of future needs? I would suggest one of the Corsair +12V single rail modular PSU's if you insist on the modular design. Check newegg for what they have for modular in the Corsair lineup. I'm sure you're aware that their price is considerably higher than the non-modular. K8 MB's that needed -5V are the early ones that had Creative Sound Blaster onboard audio.
HX650
   * Was: $139.99
   * $109.99
   * After $10.00 Rebate
   * $10.18 Shipping
That's what it is now but if you don't need it in a big hurry you can probably wait a while and get for the same price but with free shipping.
Edit: Gee, Ultra with blown caps, I just happen to have a xPRO 800W that blew some caps, repaired it and started going bad again and then got my TX650 to replace it. Got it for $70 after rebate (which I haven't received yet) by waiting for the right price, rebate and free shipping. VX550 would have been good enough but at the time I got the TX650 at a lower price.

BIOS for K8N Neo2 Platinum

Hi to all.
Just wanted to know what's the best and most stable bios for my K8N Neo2 Platinum. I'm currently running ver. 1.B, but I've read that ver. 1.9 is the best. Just wanted to know everyone's thought on this one.
In case ver. 1.8 is better,
¿can I flash my bios to ver. 1.9 from 1.B without having any problems?
¿Is ver. 1.9 better for overclocking?
Thanks.

Quote from: Stu on 20-May-06, 07:55:41
if you wanna OC, then Syar's BIOS is the best bet; its the one i use
I agreed with you Stu as I'm also using Syar's Bios 1C.

Need some recommendations for K8N Neo Platinum

Well I am real psyched about my k8N Neo Platinum coming on tuesday which wi8ll be coupled with a Althon64 3200+ and I want to go ahead and purchase some RAM and possibly a heatsink and was looking for some suggestions. First of all I won't be overclocking my system much if any at all bare in mind. I am looking at getting one stick of 512 for now since money isn't exactly flowing right now and am looking to spend at the MAX $150. Correct me if I am wrong but I am probably going to just go with the PC3200 since I am not doing any huge overclocks. Here is some of the ones I was looking at:
Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series PC-3200 - $141
Kingston HyperX 184 Pin 512MB DDR PC-3200 - $141
Please provide other suggestions if you have them, I was leaning towards the Corsair.
As far as the heatsink goes I know several people on here use the ZALMAN CNPS7000A which looks pretty darn nice to me because it is so quiet but do I really need something like this since I won't be overclocking? I am tempted to get it just because it is so quiet, that's something I am trying to do this time since my current computer is 10ft tall and sounds like a lawn mower. I got the Antec Sonata case with the big 120mm ehxaust fan to help out the cause. Thanks for any help.

Yeh I have been there and the only reason I am not getting it from there is that they are out of stock. So I was going to get it from Directron.com but I noticed that apparently have two all copper Zalman's the CNPS7000 and the CNPS7000A. I suppose I'll just get the "A" version since that is the one they have on NewEgg. Now just have to lock down my memory choice and I am all set.
My bad I just went out and checked the picture for the 7000A on Directron and it clearly has aluminum in it, they just didn't mention it in the description. I'll just have to see if it is worth it for the extra 8 bucks to get the all copper one.

New BIOS for K8N Neo2 Platinum

Version 1.1
- Support CPU FSB to 350MHz.
- Incorrect message during POST after CPU over clocking.
- Support Sempron CPU.
- Ghost rate is slow with RAID0 under DOS mode.

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Anyone noticed a slight slowdown of the processor? I'll have to get back home to doublecheck all BIOS settings, but checking this with Sandra (which has been accurate so far for CPU speed testing) BIOS 1.0 and 1.1 showed identical speeds...BIOS 1.2 is 10% slower.
let us know what you find out....curious myself because i already checked bios and nothing changed after update

Bios 1.A for K8n Neo2 Platinum

Someone has already been so brave to try this new BIOS ? Does it fix previous troubles with raid?

Quote from: Ollino on 22-August-05, 20:37:13
Someone has already been so brave to try this new BIOS ? Does it fix previous troubles with raid?
Ive already upgraded to the 1A bios and so far ive had no troubles. I still hate the look of the bios though, with all the options, i liked the look of the bios from v1.8, then 1.9 ruined it and i see that 1A is still the same.
I used the following parameters when i was flasing it as well, /py /sn /cd /cc /cp /wb /f /c.. I got it from another thread where someone suggested to use that everytime, but i have NOOO idea what /f and /c do does anyone know??

K8N Neo2 Platinum Ordered - Advice for a noob please

Hi there,
this seems like a great forum, was hoping someone could give me some advice - Im trying to pre-empt any major probs....
I am a relative noob to building P.C's - done a few P4 based systems before but this will be my first Athlon based. This systems primary use will be gaming. I have the following on order (should be with me next week) : -
a) MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum Edition SCK 939 Motherboad
b) AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ 64bit SCK 939 Retail Inc Fan
c) 160GB Maxtor Calypso 8mb Cache 7200 SATA DHH
Components I have already
a) Graphics Card - Nvidia 6800 GT
b) Memory - Generic 2 X 512MB PC2700 DDR333 RAM
c) Sound Card - Creative SB Live Value
d) PSU - Jeantech 450W (22a on 12V Rail)
e) Case - pretty generic full tower case - no fans attached
f) CPU FAN - COOLERMASTER HYPER 48 SUPER SILENT HEATPIPE
g) Spare Hard drive - 120GB Maxtor IDE Hard drive
h) DVD Drives - 1 x Pioneeer 108 / 1 x Pioneer 104
I) Monitors - Ilyama 17" TFT & Toshiba 32WL36P LCD
I have some 'noobish' questions - apologies for my ignorance : -
1) Memory - Will my memory be okay ? Should I ditch it and buy some Corsair DDR400 (which everyone else seems to have!). Will performance suffer if I stick with the DDR 333 ? Do I need to adjust settings in BIOS regarding memory timing ? (I only picked up on this from reading through other posts on this board, and am totally clueless on 'timing'- Ive never needed to adjust timing on any previous PC's....!)
2) Sound Card - will I be better off sticking with the onboard sound on the MSI K8N neo 2 ? Or for best performance do I go with the SB LIve ? (god its a nightmare trying to get updated drivers for this card), Would I get a noticable performance increase buying an Audigy 2?
3) Vcore / other power issues - Reading this forum Im kinda scared by many posts along the lines of "..for stability I need to change my memory voltage to xx-V" or "...for a stable system I needed to change my Vcore to xx-V". Will I need to change the Bios default values on this system just to get it to run stably??
4) CPU FAN - Are AMD stock fans any good ? My Hyper 48 is quite highly rated....
5) Im completely new to SATA drives, but Ive printed off the very useful install guide on this site (which I intend to use). Is there anything I need to look out for concerning adding my IDE drive also.
I think thats about it just now - if anyone can see any other potential problems with my specs then please let me know. Im really not trying to be negative / pessimistic - after all the reason I have went for this motherboard is that it is rated as one of the best. Im just a bit paranoid that the dreaded B.S.O.D awaits me!
On a more positive note - does anyone have similar system specs they use for gaming ? How well does HL2 / Doom3 / Farcry etc fly J ? I cant wait !
Thanks for the time

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K8N-Neo2 Platinum pauses for 25 sec at boot, nvatabus.sys the problem?

All,
After POSTing normally and starting to load Windows XP, my system halts at the Windows XP splash screen for about 25 seconds. Nothing happens, no disk activity or anything, the system just sits there.
I used Microsoft's Bootvis utility to see what was happening. It turns out that the nvatabus.sys driver consumes 100% CPU at boot for 25 seconds then the system continues to boot normally. Does anyone else see anything like this?
I am running the latest nForce drivers from MSI. The driver in question:
NVIDIA nForce3 Serial ATA Controller 2.6
Driver Date 6/3/2004
c:\WINDOWS\System32\DRIVERS\nvatabus.sys 5.10.2600.0446
Windows XP SP1
I have a RAID1 of two 160 GB SATA drives. The mirror is healthy and working fine.
After booting the system is rock-solid stable, no problems there. It's just this unexplained pause at boot. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this?

ok check it out guy's this thing drove me insane all night last night and most of today. I was ready to return everything and give up. But alas all is not lost. Here is the rundown on what i just did.
My Equipment:
Athlon 64 3800+(w/ stock fan)
MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Socket 939
2X512 Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPRO ( with the cool led's )
2 SATA HD (1 Maxtor Diamond10 300 GB w/ 16mb cache, 1 Segate 160GB w/8mb cache)
PP&C 425 ATX Deluxe
Radeon 9700 Pro ( cat 4.8 )
Audigy2 ZS
Sony Floppy
Sony 8x52x52x32 DVD Rewrite
I have been reading and reading just like all you guy's. On a few websites i would pick up bits and pieces on what to try. Heres what i did. Upon Boot up i entered the bios. I then went to Cell Soft and adjusted my timings for my memory. I was at 2.5 not 2.75. I then set my speed down to 166. Exited and restarted. Big mistake everything ri=uns terrible slow and my expensive DDR 400 memory was showing up correctly at 333. Rebooted again entered the bios. reset my speed to 400. Then set the Overclock feature to manual. Set my timings at 2,2,5,2 200 and 2.75 volts. After saving settings and exiting I then turned off the computer. As per some other suggestions I moved my Audigy2 to the bottom most pci slot the one above the orange slot. I moved my memory to slots 2 and 4. I moved my SATA to slots 3 and 4. I rebooted went into the bios again and setup all my voltages. CPU was Auto, AGP was max yellow setting. Memory still at 2.75. I disabled the onboard serial and parrallel ports. Rebooted
Fearing the worst,
5 seconds, 10 seconds, windows screen loging prompt. There was nothing wrong at all. It rebooted effortlessly. It re found my Audigy card and wanted driver but that was it. I am going to reboot a few more times and then run sisandra to test. I hope some of this will help you. I post in a few after some of those reboots.

NOOB -MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum questions

Hi
I coming from an Intel background but am now considering changing to AMD; i'd like to keep my agp x800xt pe card and get a MSI K8N NEO2 Platinum board but have got a few questions /concerns.
I have looked on several forums including MSI's own forum and noticed people having problems with corsair value select memory modules.
My questions which i'd be grateful for answers to are:
1. Am gamer and planning to also purchase a 4000+ to put in it - will the board recognise it straight away or will I need to update BIOS..
2. Want to transfer my current 4x512mb 3200 Corsair Value Select sticks to my new board - will there be any compatibility problems? (cannot afford to buy new memory)
3. Will I be able to run the memory 200 + ? as heard the boards base clock for a 4000+ is 166
4. If I can run these at 200 can i do this straight away or will i need to overclock them slowly to get to 200 (will the board see them as 3200 and start at 200?)
5. Anything else I should know/look out for?
Many thanks to all. My first post here so hello to everyone.

Hello !!
Let´s try to answer your questions...
1. It depends on which Bios Version is installed out of the Box, i suggest version 1.8, if you are not using a Venice / Dual-Core or later CPU Core. The advantages of biosses later than version 1.8 are the new Steppings Support and some new Memory Timing Options available in Bios Setup.
2. I do not know exactly, i think most corsair sticks are running well on this Board if you are not going to overclock. But it depends on which Chips are used your Corsair Modules. What could be a problem is that you are going to use 4 Ram Sticks, because with Winchester Cores you would not be able to run 4 Sticks in PC3200Dual Channel Mode (DDR333), even if your Ram would be 100% compatible with your MOBO. Venice and later Cores are able to handle 4 sticks at 400Mhz DDR clock. Except you own 4 single sided Ram Modules.
3. Should be possible if your memory likes it.....
4. No, the Bios will recognize your SPD Timings. So you will have to overclock them from a 166Mhz Memory Divider Base.
5. Take a look here:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46730
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=72024.0
http://www.msi.com.tw/html/products/mainboard/testreport_pdf/7025/memory.pdf
Good Luck
Greetz MurdoK

Best ram for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Edition?

Ho guys
Im getting a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum Edition this week but cant decide what memory to use what is the best memory for this board here
are my options.
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=kin-KHX32-1c2
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17879&mod=artikel
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17636&mod=artikel
http://www.brack.ch/aspx/default.aspx?ID=17885&mod=artikel
http://www.1000ordi.ch/2500
I will be overclocking.
Any help would be appreciated

Quote from: mehdi on 13-July-05, 22:09:22
XL's is verified by anand to top at 2-3-3 on DDR466 so this would be how much of a oce on a 3700sandy at those timings.
Well the 3700 San Diego har a max multilplier equals 11 and you can use the lower ones also .
So you have more options than one to reach say you set a goal for 2700mhz assuming you have air cooling (2.7ghz seems to be what most aim for without extreme cooling)
HTT reference clock at 233 with memory index 200 times multiplier 11 gives 2530mhz on the cpu and 233mhz/466DDR on the memory .
To maintain same memory speed (around or below 233mhz) with higher cpu frequency you must use a divider by setting max memory speed to 166 etc and use a higher HTT clock reference .
E.g
HTT=270
Multiplier=10
Memory index=166
Gives CPU/12 divider
CPU is then 2.7ghz
Memory speed = cpuspeed/12 = 2700/12 = 225mhz or DDR450 .
Multilplier memory index dividers:
7x with 133 : cpu/11
8x with 133 : cpu/12
9X with 133 : cpu/14
10x with 133 : cpu/15
11x with 133 : cpu/17
7x with 166 : cpu/9
8x with 166 : cpu/10
9X with 166 : cpu/11
10x with 166 : cpu/12
11x with 166 : cpu/13
7x with 183 : cpu/8
8x with 183 : cpu/9
9X with 183 : cpu/10
10x with 183 : cpu/11
11x with 183 : cpu/13
7x with 200 : cpu/7
8x with 200 : cpu/8
9X with 200 : cpu/9
10x with 200 : cpu/10
11x with 200 : cpu/11
( with 200 you will se the divider is the same as multiplier , thats why some calls this 1:1 )
There are also some tables for the dividers made by orcar wu over at extremesystems in this thread:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41595&highlight=a64+divider+table]
Using this calculation you can figure out your ram frequency before trying it in the bios .
E.g use 183 mem index/divider with cpu multiplier 10x with 2.7ghz as the target .
10 x 270 = 2700
memory will run at
2700/11 = ~ 245mhz or DDR490

Is this RAM ok for a K8N NEO2 Platinum

I am currently building a system and have got my FX-53 and K8N NEO2 Platinum but i have hit a problem in that i dont know what memory to get for it i have been looking at this http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=116120&cks=PRL
or if this is no good could some one recommned me one perhaps from this list
http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/kl.asp?bn=10529

If you know very little about memory, then what it IS telling you, you won't understand. Here's a tip....on the offset, don't spend a lot of money on memory just yet. Purchase some PC3200, like Kingston KVR RAM or Kingmax...something relatively inexpensive...until you begin to understand timings and voltage adjustments. You will not have any problems with this type of memory, and usually...initial boot-up goes very smoothly.
Then, after you start to play with timings and such...when you begin to feel comfortable with making these adjustments, and you know your system is stable....then you could experiment with higher-performance RAM.
That's just how I do it..as I am conservative when first assembling a computer!
Tim186...."Welcome" to the MSI Forum. Also, check out RexB's 939 build thread...you will find good information in that!!!!

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