Song Count is Different between iTunes & iPod

I need to move my entire music library to a new Windows laptop that I just received, so I synced my entire iTunes (v10.3) library to my 80Gb Classic iPod. When it completed syncing the "entire music library" the info screen tells me that my iTunes music library contains 3,794 songs, but when I look on my iPod, it has 3,787 songs. Why would it have skipped 7 songs, and is there any way to determine what 7 songs are not included?

Update: after seing a number of posts about the same issue, i tried to do some other ideas. I looked through my list of songs, and found 2 songs un-checked. I also did a search for duplicate songs and deleted about 10 dupes. I then did a re-sync, and the song difference count is now at 5, with iTunes having 3,783 and the iPod at 3,778. So I'm closer, but I'd still like to know which 5 songs I'm missing.

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I'm trying to keep the focus on the functionality of the program.
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