Song order on playlists unshuffled on synced iPod...

Today I synced my iPod, and discovered that it had put songs in several - but not all - of my playlists (NOT smart playlists) in artist order, not in the "shuffled" state I left them in last night, and which were preserved last night when I synced. I do not know why this happened! I checked the playlists in itunes, and the songs were in the same order as they were yesterday, which is how I want them. Then I was able to re-sync the iPod after opening one playlist, and it transferred the songs in the correct order. Does anyone have any experience with this? It only started today, as far as I can tell. Thank you!

I'm having the same exact issue. Just today it happened for the third time in 10 days! Help!

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Please note that all my "shuffle/random" settings are off.
One thing I have noticed is that if I uncheck a song in iTunes, a song that has already been synced into the iPod once, the song is not erased from the iPod after new sync. Instead, it appers before the first song of the album, which is a bit irritating. But my problem is larger that this; the reordering of songs also happens with albums for which I haven't unchecked any songs in iTunes.
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Would be great if someone could take a shot at this.
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HT2729 i downloaded 3 songs to my pc and sync'd my ipod and the songs do not tranfer. is this related to not having the proper itunes version vs ios? I cannot get the songs to sync, but I can move other songs to different playlists and they sync fine...

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Hi Dennis!
I have a couple of steps for you to try in order to get those songs transferred to your iPod touch. First, make sure all of your software is updated with the latest versions. If the songs were downloaded from iTunes, you will also want to delete the songs from your library and then download them again from the list of past purchases on your iTunes account. An article about doing that can be found here:
Downloading past purchases from the App Store, iBookstore, and iTunes Store
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2519
If you try a sync after those two steps and are still seeing the issue, then I would like you to try syncing the iPod by setting it to manually manage. An article outlining more information on manually managing your iPod sync can be found here:
Managing content manually on iPhone, iPad, and iPod
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1535
If you are still having issues after that, I have another article that can outline some other reasons why your songs may not transfer to your iPod, and it can be found here:
Some songs in iTunes won't copy to iPod
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1420
Thanks for being a part of the Apple Support Communities!
Regards,
Braden

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What did you do when you " i recently added iCLOUD service "?
Try:
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Reset iOS device: Hold down the On/Off button and the Home button at the same time for at
least ten seconds, until the Apple logo appears.
- Unsync all music and resync
- Reset all settings
Go to Settings > General > Reset and tap Reset All Settings.
All your preferences and settings are reset. Information (such as contacts and calendars) and media (such as songs and videos) aren’t affected.
- Restore from backup. See:
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i know little about classical music, etc, however, i have started a habit of my own to sort music listed on my library in the order as listed on a CD as i rip it in.
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i know little about classical music, etc, however, i have started a habit of my own to sort music listed on my library in the order as listed on a CD as i rip it in.
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