Song Volume increases when bouncing to itunes

When bouncing a song from Logic Express 9 to itunes, the volume I set the output to is dramatically increased when added to Itunes. I set the stereo output track lower (set to -5.0) and the song still comes out as loud as the others. I even set it to -24 as an extreme case and I had the same increase in volume.
I tried turning off "Normalize" in the Bounce window but that didn't work.
It's really annoying me... the songs are acoustic and need to be heard softer on the album but I can't figure out how to bounce them at the volume I want and have them stay at that lowered volume.
If anyone has suggestions I'd greatly appreciate it, thanks!
-nb508

Hi,
perhaps you have set the function to adjust the volume of songs to the same level in iTunes itself? (Preferences - Playback - adjust volume- is it checked?)
Try to play back the song from the Finder's quickview if it is still too loud.
And/or maybe you have automated the output volume so that Logic automatically moves the fader back up during the bounce?

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