Song volumes

I'm sure other people have noticed that some tracks purchased from itunes are very quiet compared to others and most CDs. I know that going in Get Info > Options, you can change the volume of a track. However, I have ipod speakers and a radio FM transmitter for my ipod that automatically re-adjust the volumes, meaning that I constantly have to change the car / speaker volume (meaning I burst my eardrums when a louder song comes back on!).
How can I permanently alter the volume of these songs? I tried burning them to a disk and then importing the tracks, but they retained the "+100" volume.

Jonny - thank you for this post! I have the exact same problem - in fact i've had it ever since I bought my iMac in 2006. Only difference is that ALL my iTunes store songs are quiet compared to all other songs (i.e., not from the iTunes store).
I am sorry you are having your problem but glad I am not alone.
I called Applecare more than once some time back and they played dumb - they pretended not to understand my question. Adjusting settings in get info > Options is not a solution. It just doesn't work. Are the iTunes store songs deliberately coded quieter than others? Maybe someone here can shed some insight.
Sorry if I sound intemperate but I've spend hundreds of $$$ in that store. I believe in respecting artists' rights. I just wish the vendors would respect mine.

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Determining song volume

I have the latest version of iTunes for Windows Vista, and when I download a song, or play a song, the info bar at the top runs a process called "determining song volume". when ever that runs, iTunes stops working, and shuts down. then Vista loads a help page, and tells me to get a download that fixes this problem, but the link takes me to download the newest version of iTunes (which I already have). can anyone offer any help?

You need to disable the Sound Check function, which makes all the songs play at the same level. This is probably taking too much memory, and then crashing iTunes.
Sound Check can be disabled in Preferences > Playback Tab > untick "Sound Check" > OK.
This should fix your problem.
Mitch

Song volume changes when I replay it

When I'm listening to a song and I hit the rewind (|<< ) button, the song volume is louder the second time. Why? and can I fix it?
Thanks.

you need to empty your cache. if you use safari - go to "Safari" and then select to Emtpy Cache.
Or hit the shortcut: alt--E
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What is "Determining Song Volume?"

And why does it take so long?
I want to update a restored iPod on iTunes 7, but it's spending forever going through 4,000 some songes to "Determine Song Volume." I have not seen iTunes do that before.
Is there a way to make it stop?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7)

iTunes "determins song volume" so that it can play back all songs with about the same volume. To do this is it has to go through all your music and determin the volume of each song.
You probably never noticed this before since it is quite fast doing just a few songs at a time (the way most of us add music to our libraries). Unfortunately iTunes 7 aparently goes through all songs and determins the volume again (probably becuase there was a problem with this is some earlier versions of itunes)
You can make it stop by turning off "soundcheck" in the playback preference pane.

"Determining Song Volume"... then shuts down

I just bought a new computer with Vista, imported my library from my external hard drive (which I used to store all my music for my old computer) and my itunes shuts down after "Determining Song Volume" on the first few podcats. Any suggestions??

You need to disable the Sound Check function, which makes all the songs play at the same level. This is probably taking too much memory, and then crashing iTunes.
Sound Check can be disabled in Preferences > Playback Tab > untick "Sound Check" > OK.
This should fix your problem.
Mitch

IPod Song Volume

I am about to give up. I have tried both sound check on and off and have wiped out the IPod and started over twice but still can't get the song volume to match between the IPod and ITunes. I just spent a half day song by song getting the songs to play at the same volume in ITunes, Restored the IPod and the reloaded everything. SOund Check is off on both ends. The ITunes sounds great but the IPod volumes are all over the map. I have been chasing this problem since I got it for Christmas. Any ideas??

Try this -> http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/

Always "Determining Song Volume"

I've just updated to iTunes 7.3 and have noticed that it seems iTunes now Determines Song Volume for Podcasts as well as tracks? Maybe it did that before? ... But it sure has dragged to a crawl for the first time ever and is really focusing on determining the song volume of the podcasts that just downloaded. Long podcasts = big files = very slow.
I've shut off Sound Check in the preferences ... it still is Determining Song Value when I fire iTunes back up. It won't not do it ... unless I can quickly click the "x" button in the display window at the top of the app.
Anyone else seein' this? Tips?

Ever since updating iTunes whenever I launch it all of my songs and podcasts go through 'determining song volume' EVERY TIME!! What is up with that?
I have deselected sound check...not sure if that will do the trick or not. But after reading the above post, I'm not hopeful.
As I type this the VERY SLOW song volume thing drags on.................

ITune crashes while determining song volume

After I told iTune to import new songs, it started to determine the song volume. After about 300 or so songs (out of about 2000) it just crashes and ask me to send a report. When I restart it it just starts to determine the song volumes and crashes again after about the same number of songs. Any suggestions how to correct this problem?

Well, yes, as Spock says, "Live Long and Prosper!.
Using Spotlight, I tracked down anything that vaguely had to do with iTunes, everywhere I could find them and mercilessly deleted them. I also renamed the iTunes Music Folder and moved it to the desktop. I then took my 'old" iLife 6 CD and reinstalled everything. I refused any updates. I then opened iTunes, in preferences/playback I made sure Sound Check was checked and then clicked "add to library and added chunks of about 100 to 250 songs at a time until I got them all in. There were no problems. I suspect that some buffer get overloaded.
Nick

ITunes Feezes while "Determining Song Volume"

I downloaded a series of podcasts (35) as usual. When downloading stopped iTunes beagn "detrmining Song Volume" which generally is only seen when nothing is playing. It normally takes a few seconds depending on number of downloads. It froze after 3-4 podacsts. It would not close. ContAltDel idicated program notb responding and "end task" took some time. This happened a number of times. I went to Grogram Add?delete and ran"repair PGM". It repeated same sequence and I closed by "end Task". I downloaded iTunes from Apple website and the same thing occurred. What now?

I have the same issue. I deleted the track manually that iTunes was attempting to determine the volume of, but that doesn't help.
I have force-restart my computer every time.

Determing Song Volume

HI Folks
Just updated iTunes and now in the window it says "Determining Song Volume: Analyzing xxx of 2165: Song Name"
I've never noticed iTunes doing this on previous updates.
Can anyone let me know why this is necessary?
Thanks
Clone PC, 1st Gen iPod Shuffle (v 1.1.5 software) Windows XP

Sounds like you have "Sound Check" turned on.
iTunes: About Sound Check
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61655

Song Volume Inbalance

I have a little prob with my song volume. I got the song "Crank That" By Soulja Boy And When I Play It, It Starts At Nearly Max Volume, which usually deafens me for a short time. After I Crank down the volume, it is fine, until the next song plays, which starts at nearly no volume because i had to turn down Soulja boy. When I Turn it down, it is down at nearly zero and is playing like it's at 50% volume. I am really tired of this and would like to know what i can do.
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You could also check 'soundcheck' in iTunes preferences, under the 'playback' tab, and this will adjust all song to the same level.

Song volume and itunes freezing

When I start itunes (the latest version (6.0.4) it trys to analyse the song volume of my library even though I have turned this option off in prefrences. I have previously had this option turned on it crashes on a song which was purchased on itunes store. Has anybody had a similar problem and know hoe to rectify it?

Same thing with me! I've been going through and manually putting everything back in the playlists! It's horrible ha

FIX - iTunes Crash while "Determining Song Volume"

I figured out how to make iTunes stop crashing on "Determining Song Volume". This may not fix it for everybody, but if you have a Dual-Core processor, it's worth a try.
iTunes' SoundCheck scanning process (aka determining song volume) is not fully thread-safe. When it's trying to scan several songs, it launches each one in a separate thread. On a dual-core or dual-processor machine, this means that the scans happen simultaneously. My guess is that the decoding/scanning is perfectly fine, but the bit where it's writing the updated information into iTunes database is not. And so it eventually hits a case where both threads try to write at the same instant and bam, crash. Probably because a lack of mutex locking on the database routines.
Anyway, if you're experiencing this problem, and have dual-cores, try this:
1. Start iTunes. If it starts scanning immediately, hit the X icon to the right of where it says "determining song volume" to make it stop and not crash.
2. Go to preferences and turn off SoundCheck. Also turn off "Use soundcheck when burning CDs" or something like that.
3. Open the Task Manager (CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Click the Processes Tab.
4. Right click on the iTunes.exe process, and select "Set Affinity..."
5. You should have checkmarks beside CPU0 and CPU1. Turn off the CPU1 checkmark.
6. Back in iTunes, turn on SoundCheck again. It'll start determining song volume, and this time, it should not crash.
If this works for you, then you can make it semi-permanent with this little program: http://www.activeplus.com/us/freeware/runfirst/
It's called RunFirst.exe and what you do is to put a copy of it in the iTunes directory. Then change the shortcut you use to start iTunes to have the full path to runfirst.exe followed by the normal path to iTunes.exe. SO change the shortcut's properties to look like this:
"C:\Program Files\iTunes\RunFirst.exe" "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunes.exe"
This makes the shortcut launch RunFirst, which launches iTunes with the CPU Affinity forced to one core only.
That should fix it for a lot of people. It worked for me. So enjoy!
Apple can fix this in future revisions of iTunes, if somebody tells them to check that all the bits are totally thread-safe, because clearly that's where the issue lies.

Sarah: Sound Check (and other volume leveling schemes) usually do lower the volume. There's lot of good technical reasons for this, but the basic gist of it is that songs which are too loud cause distortion. If you want louder music, your best bet is to leave the Sound Check on and crack up the volume knob on the speakers instead. Most audio sources are actually too loud to begin with, because people think loud = better, but this ruins the dynamic range and you don't get the full effect of the audio. CD's really would sound just as good as live performances if it were not for this.
Sound Check doesn't actually change the song's volume itself. It just inserts a tag saying what the volume of the song is. On playback, the volume is auto adjusted to conform to an optimum level. ReplayGain works in much the same way, but it is much more precise. But anyway, turning off the Sound Check option really does turn the effect off. Sound Check doesn't permenantly change the music to begin with.
My suggestion is to not use the volume slider on the computer, but to leave Sound Check on, and to instead simply turn up the volume on the speakers. Using the speaker volume won't distort the music in the same way that using a volume slider on the computer will. I could explain why, but it's really technical, having to do with amps and dynamic range and so forth. You're probably not that interested.
But if you are interested, go over to the HydrogenAudio forums and start reading. More technical gibberish there than you can shake a stick at.

Determining song volume crashes iTunes 7.7

Hi there! I just submitted this as a bug report. Does anyone have any workarounds, or fixes? Thanks!
After determining the volume of about 300 or so songs, Windows reports "iTunes has stopped working". No particular kind or group of files is affected - by restarting iTunes, it can usually check the volume of the song that had appeared to make it crash. However, after another 300 or so songs, it crashes again before it can finish the entire library.
This is on the x64 edition of Windows Vista Ultimate.
The problem details are:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: iTunes.exe
Application Version: 7.7.0.43
Application Timestamp: 487517e1
Fault Module Name: iTunes.exe
Fault Module Version: 7.7.0.43
Fault Module Timestamp: 487517e1
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 004e9444
OS Version: 6.0.6001.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 5129
Additional Information 1: fd00
Additional Information 2: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
Additional Information 3: fd00
Additional Information 4: ea6f5fe8924aaa756324d57f87834160
I thought I should also mention that I have tried to remedy the problem by removing all traces of iTunes and Quicktime, then reinstalling. I also tried installing Quicktime from the standalone exe. Creating a fresh user account did not help either.

I also have the same problem. I have iTunes 8 and when it's says it determining the volume on my podcasts it stop and tells me the iTunes has stopped work. There go my 78 podcasts!!

ITunes changes song volume

I downloaded Keep 'Em Seperated off a USB stick my friend gave me with a bunch of music. Well, when I play the song, it normally starts out with a quiter intro as opposed to the rest of the song. iTunes made it so that the song is all the same volume level. It's annoying me to no end. Anyone know how to fix it? I turned off Sound Check, and turned off the EQ.

iTunes made it so that the song is all the same volume level. It's annoying me to no end.
The problem is likely in the file itself. Buy a fresh copy from the iTunes Store or Amazon MP3 and it will probably sound much better.

Imovie 13 song volume adjust

seems like the volume adjust for songs added to iMovies only has one ajductment option; grabing the line and using mouse or track pad to move it up or down. it is very sensative. is there another way to adjust volume like older imovie versions? i box where i can type a percent?

Find the song in your iTunes library, highlight it, and click File>Get Info. Then, click on the Options tab. The first option offered on there is a volume adjuster that will only affect that specific song. Once you've changed your settings, just connect your iPod and update it again, and everything should be good.
Best wishes,
CG

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