Sonnet sata E2P or E4P

Hi,
i'm planning to buy one of these card to add a 4bay esata enclosure.
I only need one esata port, so i was going to order the E2P, but on the sonnet site they say that the data transfer rate of E2P is Up to 125 MB per second per port, and for the E4P Up to 300 MB per second per port.
So why this difference? Maybe they mean the usage of 4 ports for raid?
I only need an esata port and an enclosure for storage, i just want fast data transfer for archive and backup, but i will not use raid.
So do you think that the cheaper E2P is ok for me or i'll really miss some performance respect to the E4P?
Thanks for now.
Bye

Have you read up on Port Multiplier yet? some multi drive enclosures support it, where you can have 5 drives and only use one cable. No single drive needs 300MB/sec which is why PM shares bandwith with multiple drives.
Check out the reviews on http://www.amug.com
I would spend the extra in case you do want to RAID or run 3+ drives at a later time. For one drive though you only need the 2EP.
The 2E is 1x while the E4P is a 4x card and more bandwidth.

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