Sonnet tempo sata e4p and raid 5

Hi
I just bought a tempo fusion 500p and a tempo sata e4p and i thought i was going to be able to configure them as raid 5.... Inside the fusion i have 5 500gb disks and i was hoping that there would be software with the e4p card since it said it was raid 5 compatible. how can i get it to work as raid 5? do i have to buy software or another hardware card? i've spent too much time looking around the forum here and it got me even more confused since most replies here mention that if you get a hardware controller it should be possible....
what are my options? help would be greatly appreciated...
a confused and a little dissapointed editor....

Yes, you are correct. There will be software that will allow you to set up the hardware on the card since the card actually controls the RAID system.
I would suggest reading up on RAID theory before you take the plunge. RAID 5 will give you redundancy but no performance increase, RAID 0 will give you Performance but no redundancy, then you have RAID 0+1, 3, 50, 6, 60, and so on. Make sure you know what you want before you get to deep into this.
Look at the bottome of my post and you can see what I'm using. I have that box set up with a RAID 0 on two drives for performance while editing and then I have one drive that is for backups.
Just another thought.
K

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+> And you should always check for current firmware.+
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+> Were you using PM or direct connect with the ICY and are you using that the same way?+
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