Sony A700 with ISO 100

1. The native ISO of the Sony A700 is about 160. Accordingly, ISO 100 is in fact ISO 160 with +2/3 EV exposure bias.
2. ACR adds 0.75 EV "exposure" adjustment to the Sony A700 images. The issue at this point is not this is nonsense, but following this procedure, the adjustment with ISO 100 should be 0.1 EV.
The result is, that the anyway overexposed ISO 100 shots appear hopelessly burnt without further adjustment.
It is worth to note, that the A900 behaves the same way, and look what ACR is doing: +0.35 EV adjustment with all ISOs except 100, and -0.35 EV with ISO 100, i.e. ACR accounts for the ISO difference.

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Problems sharpening high ISO-files from Sony A700 in ACR 4.2

According to the reported problems with sharpening/noise-reduction high ISO-RAWs from Canon-cameras, the same issue seams to appear on ARW-Files of the Sony alpha 700.
Many of A700-users claim, that the pictures show a sort of watercolour effect. These effect will be the more recognizable, the higher the ISO-setting at the camera was. To explain what I mean, heres a 100%-crop of an shot at ISO 1600:
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The writing seems somehow rough; there are a lot oft artifacts at the edges. Settings were:
Basic: Dynamic/Vibrance 0
Detail: Amount 33%, Radius 0.6, Detail 0 (!), Masking 20, Luminance 14, Color 10.
(The edges would have been much rougher, if I had set Detail to 25 (default) ore more.)
And here is what the Sony Image Data Converter did:
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The edges are clear, I cant see any artifacts.
Now my questions:
Is this problem typical for the Sony A700 or does it appear to other cameras too?
How can I avoid this problem using ACR 4.2? I really dont want to use the Sony-Converter, because its slow and complex to handle.
Which are the best settings for sharpening and NR files from the A700 in ACR 4.2?
Please excuse my English Im German.
Anna

>[sorry, I don't know how to loadup images here]
Anna, you can't upload images directly to the Adobe forum, but must upload them to your own photo sharing site and then use a HTML link to the picture or the site.
If you don't have a photo sharing site, there are several free ones, such as
eSnips, and
Pixentral
If you need help with HTML, this site has a good :
tutorial
> Wait for Camera Raw 4.3...
Very interesting, Jeff. I'm sure you can't provide any further information at this time, but it would wonderful if ACR offered a full fledged noise reduction program such as Bibble does by incorporating the major functionality of Noise Ninja.

Sony a700 cRAW files - excessive noise at higher ISO settings

I have found an issue when using the cRAW file format of my Sony a700 in Aperture. If I use ISO 800 or higher, I see "red speckle" (i.e. red pixels) artifacts and higher than expected colour noise in dark or shadow areas of images. The level of noise is very noticeable and is difficult to remove completely without loosing detail. However, if I take an image of the same scene under the same conditions and exposure settings, except using the RAW format, then the red speckle artifacts are virtually non existent, and the colour noise is very much reduced. I tried the same "experiment" using Lightroom, and there is no discernible difference between cRAW and RAW files, so it definitely seems an issue with the way Aperture converts the cRAW files. Of course the short term solution is simply for me to use the RAW instead of cRAW, but IMO a longer term fix from Apple is needed. Has anybody else noticed this problem?

>[sorry, I don't know how to loadup images here]
Anna, you can't upload images directly to the Adobe forum, but must upload them to your own photo sharing site and then use a HTML link to the picture or the site.
If you don't have a photo sharing site, there are several free ones, such as
eSnips, and
Pixentral
If you need help with HTML, this site has a good :
tutorial
> Wait for Camera Raw 4.3...
Very interesting, Jeff. I'm sure you can't provide any further information at this time, but it would wonderful if ACR offered a full fledged noise reduction program such as Bibble does by incorporating the major functionality of Noise Ninja.

LR 2.5 / Sony A700 / Noise Reduction

i there,
I have tested LR 2.5 with Sony raw files (>= ISO 1600).
My experience is, that
- there are improvements in color noise reduction ( no more color spots)
- but another problem is still unsolved:
The Sony "Image Data Converter SR" has a much better noise handling comparing to LR (YES, i made a new import to LR).
The problem is, that in areas of "nearly the same color", i.e. in black shadows, LR is producing ugly structures, which are missing in the sony converter.
Any experiences from other A700 users?
Best regards

It would be easier to comment if you posted a screen capture and attached it to your forum message so people can comment based on what they see.
I am not famliiar with Sony's software, but Lightroom is non-destructive and so has to do all of it's processing on the fly every time you make an adjustment to the image so it will never do as good as software that takes seconds per image to reduce noise using sophisticated algorithms that only run once and then the changes are baked into the image.
Sony's software is likely tuned for the particular camera's noise-characteristics which is something LR will be, because it supports 100s of cameras and doesn't do something different from one to the next.
That said, my general complaint is that LR doesn't allow enough sharpening or noise-reductoin...the sliders need to be allowed to go much higher for particular situations.
I have Photoshop and use NoiseNinja or NoiseWare plug-ins as a post-processing step if NR is really important, but tend to get ok results with most things wtihout resorting to Photoshop.

Lightroom and Sony A700 Raw (ARW) Files

I shot all pictures in ARW format. A number of the shots are at mid to high level ISO numbers. The shots above 400ISO are extremely noisy(both cloro and luminance)When I use the SOny supplied software
the same pictures noise level is significantly reduced. I have read on several other forums that ACR in lightroom is "messing up" the ARW files. This appears to be true. I use lightroom then CS3 to process my shots. The use of the Sony softweare complicates my workflow but at this point I am forced to do this. Is there any relief in site for this concern. Really want to combine everything into one system. By the way CS3 Bridge is not much better.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Bob

I have your lighting right here, JM.
It's quite clear you know nothing about shooting African Cichlids, the most colorful freshwater fish in the world.
These fish are "mbuna", they live in rocks, caves, and along rock faces and ledges. They are used to living many meters deep so the best fish always take up territory towards the bottom of the tank where the best structures are, where the light is most dim.
In this 120 gallon tank is well over 500 pounds of structure which consumes most of the space in the tank.
In many of the photos you will notice rock structures around the fish as the tank consists of a hundred or so ledges and caves.
African Cichlids are the smartest fish in the world and they even learn who is who...they are not ordinary fish.
No matter how much light you throw on African Cichlids it usually does not cure the problem since they spend most of there time peeking from, and hanging under structures. Shadows and dark areas are cast throughout the tanks due to the structures.
Not to mention you must use the lighting already available in every public tank in the business, not to mention fish vendors usually cannot add lighting to their tanks either.
That leads us to use high ISO when we must.
Here are a few Sony A700 test shots made with 3 custom temp 4 ft 40 watt tubes in a deep 120 gallon tank.
http://www.sonolta.com/sony-photos/v/sony+a700+test+photos/_DSC1158-ISO3200+Test+Photo.htm l
http://www.sonolta.com/sony-photos/v/sony+a700+test+photos/Sony+DSLR+ISO+640+A700.html
http://www.sonolta.com/sony-photos/v/sony+a700+test+photos/_DSC1191-Sigma+24+EX+DG.html
http://www.sonolta.com/sony-photos/v/sony+a700+test+photos/_DSC1209+Konica+Minolta+28-75D. html
http://www.sonolta.com/sony-photos/d/398-1/_DSC1290-Sony+ISO+1250+JPG
http://www.sonolta.com/sony-photos/d/380-4/_DSC1216-Minolta+28-75D
Here are a few old shots of mine when I used my custom built and designed setup w/6 custom temp 40 watt tubes made to fit a standard 55. Notice structure galore...it's like an urban housing complex in the mbuna tanks. I can shoot fish with a good pNs setup fairly well with this amount of light. Not many people anywhere get this amount of light on their tank, trust me.
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/60783-3/OB+Peacock
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/158391-2/25650281_002.jpg
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/158367-2/25713754.jpg
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/61099-3/23429774_001.jpg
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/60803-3/23538903.jpg
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/158377-2/25744617.jpg
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/158822-2/red+finned+borleyi
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/60815-3/Male+Red+Finned+Borleyi
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/158832-2/Rusty+Cichlid
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/158827-2/red+zebra
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/158865-2/25797261_001.jpg
http://www.illinoisphoto.com/pictures/d/158464-2/8838t-ob-peacock.jpg
I shot Minolta, and then Konica Minolta, and now Sony has bought KM, so Sony is the one making the bodies for our glass now.
Many of us will not give up image stabilized primes (body SSS) so we stay here. All lenses gain 2-3 stops on the Sony...A700 has top notch DR and great high ISO so most of us are not interested in Canon at the moment.
This thread is here to help the Adobe team make ACR better, please stop interfering with your brand bashing speaks.
Thank you.
-Sonolta
http://www.sonolta.com

Please fix Lightroom for Sony A700

The splotchy color noise of the Sony A700 processed in Lightroom (or ACR) needs to be fixed. It has come to the point where nearly any A700 user that participates on a photo forum knows that Lightroom is not a good Raw converter for the A700 at ISO 1600 or higher. Maybe I'm overstating? Is there anyone here that doesn't agree with this sentiment?

I don't own A700, but I discovered this: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1037&message=26834090
Which points to this:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3c0620e5
I have no real idea do those threads offer any real information but quick browsing succested that they might contain some. Sorry I don't check them properly but I have a flu (and a fever) and I'm very tired.

Thomas Knoll - Lightroom - ACR 4.3.1 Sony A700 Major Bug Needs Fixed

Please see this thread where all of the ACR4.3.1 problems are documented.
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3c060c59
Basically, ACR4.3.1 is useless to Sony A700 users on files approaching ISO1600 and beyond.
Many other raw converters render the files properly, but ACR4.3.1 can not.
ACR4.3.1 creates watercolor looking blotches that can not be removed, while every other converter on the market produces fine grained "regular" usable ouput.
The D300 and the A700 have the same sensor but ACR4.3.1 is completely trashing high ISO files from the A700. Other converters do not trash the A700 file.
All of the Sony A700 user base is affected, and many pros have been reporting and writing on this for months. This problem is camera specific to the Sony A700.
Reviewers and pro photographers around the world have writing about this ACR 4.3.1 issue and I had assumed you already were aware of the issue.
If not, please get ACR4.3.1 fixed for us in the next release. If you need any high ISO files to use I have maybe 10,000 A700 ISO1600-6400 files, so feel free to let me know.
Thank you very much and please make us aware that you have acknowledged the problems and are going to make a fix.
Have a good day.
-Sonolta
http://www.sonolta.com
http://www.illinoisphoto.com
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and 97 others...

Yes, and in that thread I posted is also a comparison against ACDPro 2 KH did against a "ps expert", and two other links are posted that links to articles that compared another half dozen converters by one one of the most respected A-Mount pros on the planet.
The head to head conversions have been done in forums since September showing the ACR flaws against numerous converters by dozens of photographers.
That is the problem...it is just ACR mangling the A700 files. With the other converters the grain stays tight and small...with ACR as ISO rises to about 1600, smearing and blotches start taking over the image.
C1V4, Bibble, RT, ACDSeePro 2, etc, etc, all give a nice tight grained A700 high ISO file while ACR4.3.1 is the only one giving us the splotched watercolor blotches and detail smearing.
I think ACR is not recognizing something properly in the A700 files that the others are. Tone curve reproduction seems off at times, and some sort of NR/Blotches seem to be in the image before you even get started with ACR. Those two things don't happen when you use any of the other converters.
I don't know why it's happening, I just know it is happening. And since I have 200K files from a half dozen cameras it really sucks to have to use another processor on the A700 files...really throws a hitch in your giddy-up.
-Sonolta
http://www.sonolta.com
PS...Here is a link toy one of a couple articles by DK, quite possibly the most respected A-Mount guy on the planet. His test is not perfect, but it clearly show the splotches and artifacts (confetti, he calls it) that no other processors in the land gives us.
http://photoclubalpha.com/2008/02/08/capture-one-v4-cures-a700-high-iso-confetti/
These "watercolors" absolutely ruin shadow areas and backgrounds, and as I mentioned before everyone else (third party) in the business gives a fine grain pattern that can be easily dealt with after the fact.
Those ACR splotches are horrendous to deal with and that is the main reason we need the converter tweaked for A700 files...nobody wcan deal with those "watercolor" effects at high ISO!
I prefer IDC, most all other shooters are using RT, ACDPro2, C1V4 and others...

JasperReports Integration PDF is created with ISO-8859-1 instead of UTF-8

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