Sony AVCHD format

Does Final Cut support the new Sony HDV format they're using in their HDR-SR1 hard drive camera?
Or has anyone edited with the HDR-HC3 miniDV tape camera and MPEG2 format? Any problems with quality in repeated edits?
Any comments much appreciated. I'm trying to figure this all out before I take the plunge on camera and editing platform. I'm coming from a miniDV camera and Premiere 6.5. Should I have confessed to that?
Thanks,
Dave

Hi(Bonjour)!
FCE does not support DVD based camcorders.
The HC3 model is a tabe based one, and HDV quality is incredibible.
Michel Boissonneault

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Final Cut Studio 2 and Sony SR1e | AVCHD Format

Hi,
I'am new to this forum and can't find any useful information regarding the support of the AVCHD-Format used by Sony's SR1e.
So does the latest Final Cut Studio 2 support the .mts AVCHD Format by the SR1E?
I see Sony in the partner list, but the cam is not on the device list.
I found some scripting and complicated ways to convert the .mts to mpeg, but maybe there is a smarter solution out there?
Or is it really true, that I have to use the Nero Burning Application on Windows to convert the AVCHD's instead of the latest Final Cut Studio editing software?
btw: Squared 5's Streamclip Software is not able to convert the .mts files.
Kind Regards, Carlo

Hi,
I'am new to this forum and can't find any useful
information regarding the support of the AVCHD-Format
used by Sony's SR1e.
So does the latest Final Cut Studio 2 support the
.mts AVCHD Format by the SR1E?
I see Sony in the partner list, but the cam is not on
the device list.
I found some scripting and complicated ways to
convert the .mts to mpeg, but maybe there is a
smarter solution out there?
Or is it really true, that I have to use the Nero
Burning Application on Windows to convert the AVCHD's
instead of the latest Final Cut Studio editing
software?
btw: Squared 5's Streamclip Software is not able to
convert the .mts files.
Kind Regards, Carlo
Not sure about FCS2 but you do have options with a capture card and bring in to FC in many different codecs. Depending on your computer you could use a Black Magic Intensity card for the all digital HDMI port on this camera and bring it in as DVC PRO HD and edit in an all digital all I frame codec. Even if Apple comes out with support for this AVCHD you may still want to avoid it as most HDV shooter/editors do.
Good Luck
Z1&V1user

How can I get movies from my sony DSC-HX9V in AVCHD format to the mac?

I have recently received a Sony DSC-HX9V camera. It does movie recordings in AVCHD format. Is there a simple way to transfer these to imovie or elsewhere on my Mac? Any ideas please. Thank you.

Take a look at this compatibility chart:
http://help.apple.com/imovie/cameras/en/index.html?lang=en_US
and read the notes re. your model. So, the next best thing then would be MPEG Streamclip (free) which should be able to convert your footage to something iMovie can work with. Note: You may need to purchase the MPEG2 Playback Component from the Apple Store (less than $20) which may be needed (that depends on a) your OS version and b) the MPEG Streamclip version).

Why i can't import a clip of AVCHD format from iPhoto originaly from my Sony NEX-5N

why i can't import a clip of AVCHD format from iPhoto originaly from my Sony NEX-5N?

Hi there. For anyone searching, here are the results of my research and corresponding advice back to Sony...
Thanks, your comments looked correct but did not solve my problem. You may be interested to know after much testing and research, I was able to ascertain that some of the camera's AVCHD settings iMovie cannot see at all (only some, which made it even harder to figure out!). Plus, if you have recorded movie clips in more than one format to the memory card (MP4 or any one of the AVCHD's), iMovie cannot see any of the AVCHD's.
Bottom line - forgo the benefits of AVCHD on the Sony NEX-5N and just use MP4 until Apple makes it easier.

I have video created in AVCHD format on my Sony camcorder and stored on my PC but do not seem to be able to add it to my iTunes library. How can I do this?

I have video created in AVCHD format on my Sony camcorder and stored on my PC but do not seem to be able to add it to my iTunes library. How can I do this?

Did you try what I suggested in the post you already made for this problem?

Adobe Photoshop Elements Organizer Stops Working due to Sony AVCHD files

Hello I installed Adobe Photoshop elements and have been having trouble with it crashing.
To solve this problem I deleted my Catalog and added a Catalog with only one folder.
This folder has photos, in JPEG and Sony .ARW format as well as AVCHD files.
I found that by removiing the AVCHD files from the catalog the SW would no longer crash.
This really is not a practical solution since my PC has many folders with many AVC files.
I am trying to see if there is a SW patch or another way to address this issue.
Thanks,

It might work but this is not a practical solution.
I have many picture folders on my pc and several of these have AVC files.
My intention was to use Photo Shop Essentials to edit my pictures. Unfortunately the "Organizer" app crashes when trying to work with my Catalog.
I have narrowed it down to only happening when there are AVC files in my folders. I have seen others have this issue and I found the issue by what they recommended.
Sadly if I am unable to get this to work with my current folders I will have to dump Essentials for another application.

How to put on the files of the camera Sony Avchd hdr-td10 for Final Cut Pro 6.0.6?

Sorry for my English, I am French. I would like to know if the camera Sony Avchd hdr-td10 is compatible with Final Cut Pro 6.0.6 to List and Transferer and if it is necessary to install a particular codec? This camera makes of the 3D but I specify that my rushes are in 2D. Thank you in advance.

Read this. (Also available in French from the "Aide" menu bar item)
If the files are not recognized because Sony made some changes to the AVCHD format, MPEG Streamclip (free) might be able to help. Clipwrap ($50) will definitely work.

Why Doesn't Premiere Elements 12 Recognize My Sony AVCHD Camera?

This is my first attempt at using Premiere Elements 12. Unfortunately, it is not recognizing my Sony HDR AVCHD format camera. It uses a san disk. I get a message "No supported devices detected". It does find the jpg photos, though.
So I directly loaded the MTS files onto my iMac and created a DVD. It looked pretty good, but not as good as playing the camera directly on a TV. I found something on another Adobe site that indicated if there were problems with Premiere reading from the card that the files could be loaded to the hard drive. It said "Be sure to copy the entire file structure of the card instead if just the clips". I'm not sure what that means. All I did was download the MTS files.
So I really have 2 questions here -
1 - why doesn't Premiere recognize my camera
2- Is there something on the san card I missed downloading that could improve the quality of the DVD being created?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Rickster213
Thanks for the reply and your additional comments and results.
I think that we need to make distinctions between Quality (how good or bad the results looks or sounds to you) and Resolution (Frame Size, Display Size). Often the two can go side by side.
What you are seeing at the camera level is 1080i which is interlaced video at 1920 x 1080 @ 29.97 interlaced frames per second. What you are seeing when you play back your finished DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc is based on 720 x 480 @ 29.97 interlaced frames per second (if standard 4:3) and 720 x 480 @ 29.97 interlaced frames per second accompanied by a 16:9 flag to stretch the 720 x 480 to 856 x 480 for display after encoding. Another factor is what the TV or computer player is doing to your interlaced video for viewing purposes - deinterlacing or not and with what method. Some TV's come with technology to enhance the DVD-VIDEO display. Most TVs larger than 32 to 42 in tend to show the differences between higher and lower resolution more readily.
Since you have interlaced video source, each frame has two fields, with either Upper or Lower Field First. Your source probably is interlaced video with Upper Field First. Consequently, in the project, you may have to adjust that to Lower Field First if your destination is DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc which is characterized by Field Order Lower Field First. Something to look into for the "better" aspects considerations.
Now if you decide to take your Timeline content to AVCHD format on DVD disc, note that the format of AVCHD format on DVD disc is different from that of the DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc (Instead of OpenDVD and VIDEO_TS Folder, you have the BDMV Folder). Your AVCHD on DVD disc will have resolution (Frame Size, Display Size) of 1920 x 1080 pixels. Under these circumstances, the capacity of the DVD disc can become a problem with larger projects. When you burn your Timeline content to AVCHD format on DVD disc, what is on the disc will be an 29.97 interlaced frames per second characterized by Upper Field First. So, if your interlaced source and the destination product both use Field Order Upper Field First, then no need for Field Options adjusts. However you do have one opportunity for a progressive frame rate for the AVCHD on DVD. It is not 29.97, rather 24. See Presets = H.264 1920 x 1080p NTSC Dolby in the AVCHD on DVD set up in Publish+Share/Disc AVCHD disc.
I have generated some very great looking DVD-VIDEO on DVD disc (standard and widescreen) and have been very pleased with the results and how my viewers received them. The thought is getting the best possible DVD-VIDEO on DVD and enjoying it without laboring on how it might have looked as Blu-ray or AVCHD if you do not have Blu-ray and do not have a player for AVCHD on DVD disc.
If you need clarification on any of the above, please let me know.
Thanks.
ATR
Add On...In post 3 marked in reply to me you wrote
"On a side note, however, I'm not sure I agree with the statement that going to standard def would lose a lot of video quality"
I did not write that in any of my posts to you. That is why I have gone through the detailed account to qualify that statement from wherever it came.

What timeline format shall i use for footage in AVCHD format?

I am shooting with the Sony HXR NX5, and i would like to ask what timeline format shall i use for footage in AVCHD format? I do not see any format in the Final Cut Pro and in Motion that matches my camera format.
Thank you very much for your assistance.
Best regards,
Richard

IF you are working with FCP 7.0.3 (the last version) then you use Log and Transfer to ingest your footage from that camera, and Log and Transfer will convert the AVCHD camera files to ProRes.
Once the camera files are ingested, make a new (empty) timeline, and either drag a source clip or edit it to that timeline and you will be prompted to match the sequence settings to the source clip. Say yes and you should be good to go.
AVCHD, H.264,etc. files are not directly usable in FCP without conversion.
MtD

AVCHD format

How do I import the new AVCHD files in to iMovie?

I doubt Sony will let Apple in on the AVCHD format. ...
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/finalcutpro601.html
What’s New in this Version
Final Cut Pro 6.0.1 contains several updates, including:
- Support for the AVCHD format through the Log and Transfer interface
but as far as I understood FC Mastermind Tom Wolsky, it supports only 'a kind of AVCHD'... which comes in 'flavors' too (eeeks!) ...

Optimal Settings for Converting Sony AVCHD .MTS Footage for DVD Delivery

I am starting with footage from a Sony HDR-SR7 camcorder. Since iMovie is still kind of wonky with this, I am going to batch convert all my clips using the VeggieTools plug-in scripting for *Sony Vegas Pro* (under my Windows partition of my MacBook Pro). I can convert over each file into a new clip in a lot of different formats.
My goal is to *bring the footage over to Mac and edit it in Final Cut Express.* Eventually, I will be mastering and delivering on DVD (most likely through iDVD). And I am looking for guidance.
First, I have a lot of choices for the conversion format. But I am not sure what to use. I know that the original is upper field dominant and HD in size (16:9). I will eventually be going to standard DVD NTSC (with letterboxing top and bottom to fill up the format space of the 4:3 aspect ratio). And I assume that is lower field dominant.
Do I need to find some setting that lets me convert the footage to double the 29.97 fps rate while interpolating the fields? Or do I not have to worry about this? I am worried that bringing the size of the footage down will create some weird artifacts if this isn't taken care of first.
I guess the main question is, since I am looking to pretty much just edit these clips together and won't be doing much in the way of special effects, what's the best way or format to choose to *turn the HD footage into high quality SD footage* that I can quickly trim and string together *in Final Cut Express*...
Not sure if I gave enough info. I will be checking often in anyone wishes to try and tackle this one and needs more details...
And thanks for listening!!

OK my fault for not being clear on an extremely important point: I don't need anamorphic widescreen. Sorry to waste your brainpower on my lack of clarity. Mea culpa.
I intend to show this only on a standard definition TV from a standard definition DVD player. The "letterboxing" I spoke of is intentional on my part inside the standard def 4:3 frame. I will just let there be black bars at the top and the bottom.
So I don't need full super high resolution during this transfer (IF iMovie hadn't stopped recognizing my Sony AVCHD MTS camera after the first batch of video I collected, this wouldn't even be an issue. Been spending days on the forums trying all the solutions for the rest of my footage...).
But now that I have a workaround, I am just mostly confused about what to do about the field order (and thus, the frame rate) and the resizing (for convenience in size and playback speed). The original is upper first, and I am pretty sure that the QuickTime Movie I eventually make for iDVD should be lower field first (haven't tried tackling the can of worms of ideal MOV settings for an iDVD standard def disc yet).

Panasonic HDC-SD9, AVCHD format & iMovie

The HDC-SD9 Panasonic is a high definition camcorder that records in the AVCHD format. Bear with me as I try to explain in layperson terms my question. I then created several Imovie events by removing the SD card from the camera and using a memory card reader to upload. I then created a separate Imovie Project by taking footage from various Events. I tried to copy the project onto a new SD card, place the SD card back in the camera and play the recording. However, the camera indicates "no data" on the card. So, a couple of questions: 1) Is this because the HD camera cannot read the Imovie codec? 2) What format/codec does Imovie convert the AVCHD to? 3) If I burn the project to a double-layered disk in High Definition will it play on a Blu-Ray DVD or a DVD that can read a high definition disk? 4) Bottomline is that I would like to edit the AVCHD footage captured on the Panasonic HDC-SD9 camcorder, burn to a disk and play it on a DVD player. Is this possible?

As you discovered, you cannot move a finished movie back to your camera for playback.
For playback on an Apple TV, shore using the LARGE preset, and you will get a 960x540 file that looks really good on a high definition TV if it has upscaling circuitry, because this is a simple upscale to 1920x1080.
If you want to burn a movie in full 1920x1080, there are several options.
1) You can create it using iMovie's "Export using Quicktime" feature and watch it on your Mac. Use a 24" iMac for best results. It will use the entire screen.
2) Same as #1 except you can watch it on a Sony Playstation 3.
2) You can get Toast 9 with BluRay plug in and burn up 20 minutes or so of movies to a standard DVD. It might be more with a dual layer DVD but I have not tried it. Create your movie and export it using Quicktime in AIC or h.264 and the burn in Toast. Most BluRay players will read the DVD.
3) If you have a BluRay burner, you can use Toast 9 to burn multiple movies up to theatrical length and maybe more.
See my post here for some details:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=7022027&#7022027

QuickTime video to AVCHD format

I recently purchased a Sony Blu-Ray / DVD Recorder (VBD-MA1).
My camera outputs a QuickTime video file which needs to be converted to AVCHD format as the supported format for the recorder.
Q: Can anyone recommend a Video conversion software package to convert Quicktime to AVCHD that is acceptable for the Sony Blu-Ray recorder?
Thanks for the help,
Joe

Do you mean want to convert QuickTime(*.mov) to AVCHD format?
I know Eahoosoft Video Converter can do this with high quanlity and fast speed
http://www.eahoosoft.com/

Sony video formats

I have a Sony HDR-CX100 AVCHD HD camera (probably a mistake), looking for a way to open video files from this device on my Macs. Any help, or am I outa luck for now.

I read just the Sony specs:
Format:
HD: MPEG4 AVC/H.264 (AVCHD)
SD: MPEG2
You should take Videos in Full HD for home use.
I would think, Quicktime should manage this.
If you took "SD", than you need the Apple MPEG 2 component to view it.
(Applestore about 20 $)
If nothing helps:
its a good solution to install
www.perian.org
this quicktime component covers most codecs.
but take care, that Perian takes control over some Apple codecs.
Sometimes this is not wanted.
But its a very useful and well known component.
At least you can use "VLC Media Player", but its not a good solution,
because you will need, that quicktime covers your Cam, to have access
with all related Software, iMovie, Final-Cut etc.
And by the way, lately some people have problemas with the Quicktime
Update of the MacOS 10.6.3 Update,
There are some doubts that Quicktime works good in every condition
maybe the next update will fix something. Nobody knows.

Cameras that use the AVCHD format

I was trying to decide, for a possible future purchase, between the Panasonic AG-AF100 and the Sony FS 100UK.
However, I am having reservations now. I am not conversant with the intricacies of the various codecs and someone mentioned in an article that thet would not use the AVCHD format under any circumstances. Probably a biased viewpoint no doubt but it has me thinking and now hesitant.
Can anyone advise me as to whether this is a detriment when thinking of these two cameras since they both use the AVCHD format? At the moment I am using a Canon XH A1s.
I hope this is not a dumb post. Please go easy on me :-)
Trevor

Well, I can tell you that there is a substantial improvement when going from HDV to AVCHD. It's very visible. I just cut some HDV footage for the first time in years yesterday, after cutting mostly AVCHD for the last 3-4 years now. It was painful to look at, even though it was 1080.
As for AVCHD in general, it's not the easiest format to edit. It is highly compressed. That being said, Premiere Pro CS6 and a quality Nvidia GPU combine to make editing AVCHD almost a non-issue nowadays.
I know plenty of folks who shoot on AVCHD cameras and bypass the compression by recording to a separate recorder via HD-SDI or HDMI. Generally speaking it's for color correction latitude, since most serious filmmakers would prefer to capture 4:2:2 than 4:2:0.
However, I also know quite a few adventurers who do features and record directly to the AVCHD media on the AF100. One guy I know has even had it checked out by Technicolor and they said it looked great.
Here's one of his features shot on the AF100, direct to the AVCHD media onboard:
I know he recently did some other work with a Canon 5D and recording off the camera but then the 5D is bit of a different beast than the AF100 or FS100.
As for choosing between the Sony and Panasonic....well, I'm almost as big of an Adobe fanboy as I am a Panasonic fanboy. I've used the Panasonic cameras for years and I really have found that the layout of the camera controls, the depth of the camera controls and the overall image from Panasonic cameras is excellent. I've never been much impressed with Sony gear, it used to be a lot worse (when you used a Sony camera, you used to pretty much be obligated to use Sony media, Sony hardware, etc). But I've found Sony cameras to be a bit less user friendly, with a lot of things either buried in menus or not available at all when compared to their Panasonic counterparts. Just one man's opinion, take it or leave it.
I really like the images from the AF100, we've worked with it a few times now and it's quite versatile. There are, however, more options coming soon. If you are interested in being on the bleeding edge of technology, Blackmagic Design is soon releasing their first ever camera, a 2.5K sensor camera for about $3,000. Like the AF100, it doesn't include a lens but can work with most any glass out there. However, it IS the company's first foray into any kind of camera, and it's completely untested by the user community at large so if you need a camera with a confirmed workflow, it ain't ready for primetime yet.

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