Sorenson Squeeze Matrox CS3

Before upgrading to CS3, Sorenson Squeeze seemed to work fine on my Matrox system with CS2.
I recently update to CS3. I am now having major issues with Sorenson Squeeze in that I get error messages and Sorenson Squeeze shutst down.
I also have On-Location on my laptop. I think I have it narrowed down to avi files (Type 2 as recommended) that I capture on my laptop then download to my Matrox system. (My laptop has no Matrox components.)
As best I can figure I'm having issues with .avi files captured using On-location and Sorenson Squeeze.
Sorenson Squeeze recommend that I install an older version of Quicktime.
Any advice?

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720 progressive output from Sorenson Squeeze and Sony Z1 HDV

Hi
I have a one off project where I need to film some shots in portrait 16:9 for output on (lots of) 720p digital screens on their sides. I plan on filming this with a Sony Z1 camera in 1080i HD mode on its side and then down-sizing in FCP and converting to progressive WMV files with Sorenson Squeeze.
I know the Z1 doesn't really do progressive filming. Would it be wise to hire a camera that does support it natively for best results? Or would Sorenson Squeeze do a good job of de-interlacing to 720p for HD LCD panels? Plus, does anyone know of a bracket-type attachment to mount cameras at 90 degrees on a tripod?
Any suggestions or tips for best results would be much appreciated, and thanks in advance for any help!
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Tom,
I don't think that your issue is with the Z1. I think that it is with HDV footage in general (nasty format and all) but you don't want to hear that so let's work on getting you going.
1) You do need some sort of external monitor. YOu have several options, Cheapest is to buy a Matrox MXO and an Apple or Dell 24" monitor. Other options include cards from AJA or Blackmagic. If you are doing everything in HDV I would recommend something from AJA or BM that way you can capture to a more easily editable format like DVCProHD. Do a search for Kona, Blackmagic or capture cards aadn you will find a wealth of info.
2) for this footage you need to look at the original tapes on an HD tv and see if you are seeing the same thing. This will determine if it is a compressor issue.
3) How low did you set your bit rate? Max should be below 7 or some DVD players will have issues.
4) in DVDSP you should be able to bring in your QT ref file and it will encode it for you. If it won't import it makes me wonder if it is being exported properly. Are you going out of FCP by FILE>EXPORT>QUICKTIME>with current settings, and check Make Movie Self-contained?
One more thing, in this process you are not working with film, others here may be more harsh about this but you are using video so let's call it what it is.
K

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I am about to move up to CS5 from CS3. With it I have been using Sorenson Squeeze 4.5 for my compression utility. Right now (or until next Thursday) sorenson is offering version 6.5 for a $200 upgrade fee, for me a savings of about $400.
Question is, tho, whether Squeeze is really necessary with CS5? Does the AME and other presets, etc, render Squeeze useless, or is it still worthwhile to use that package?
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Take this for what it's worth (heh--not much ), but here's my experience:
I purchased Squeeze 4.5 (or maybe it was 4.8?) for Flash back when I was running CS3. I was regularly delivering Flash video files, and wanted to use the VP6 codec--which CS3 had, but only with single-pass encoding. The quality was pretty iffy, so Squeeze was worth the money to get good looking Flash video encodes.
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Then came CS5 and 64-bit goodness (plus a new computer ). Encoding to whatever was and is a lot faster than CS4 and Squeeze, but I still liked the review system. About that time, I got a great upgrade price (same deal that I think you're looking at) to go from the "Flash" version of Squeeze to the full version of the new Squeeze 6 with all supported encoding formats. Some of the new filters and options were nice, but I was finding Squeeze to be pretty slow (it's only 32-bit) and I had a lot of problems with stability with some formats and the inability to import others. One thing I have always HATE HATE HATED about Squeeze is that they included ffdshow in the install which is supposed to increase the format support. However, installing that is a big no-no on an edit system with Premiere...
That said, I still liked the 360 review service (I don't really use it for "hosting"), even if it wasn't perfect. I wasn't crazy about still having to export an intermediate file from Premiere to use in Squeeze--especially since I was having to resort to uncompressed AVIs and MOVs because anything else would bring Squeeze to a screeching halt--and there were a number of bugs that I'd discovered and submitted to the Sorenson folks. Surprisingly, many of these were addressed in Squeeze 6.5 (the current version).
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I really wanted to like Squeeze--as you can tell, I've given it more than a fair shake. However, I think it's turned into a big ball of bloat that is not very stable and really doesn't produce significantly better output than what I'm able to achieve with Premiere and AME. It's far slower, and the fact that I need to feed it a huge space-and-time-consuming intermediate file makes it not very user friendly. There is no communication between Premiere and Squeeze, so those intermediates will be a necessity until an exporter module is in place (which I'd say is never going to happen). And for me, the 360 review system is nowhere near as robust, well-designed, flexible, and integrated as CS Review is with Premiere.
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Need help with compression rates with Sorenson Squeeze 6, Compressor3.5.2

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I am running Sorenson Squeeze 6 on a Mac to try and compress some Apple ProRes 422 videos into an MPEG-2 file. The file will be played in a DirectX application, running on a PC with Windows 7. When being played it looks to be heavily compressed, and I need help with some of the compression settings.
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So I have received a Quicktime .mov that has been encoded with FCP using Apple ProRes 422 compression at 720x486 , 29.97 fps, 40.29 Mbit/s , and the file size is 515.7mb.
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- I have changed many of the data rate settings as low as 3000 Kbps, and as high as 15,000 Kbps, and the end result looks essentially the same
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- I have used the crop/deinterlace filter and also not used the filter, and it makes a big difference, so obviously it needs to be deinterlaced.
From there I will get the .m2v file and the .m2a file, and then mux those with MPEG Streamclip.
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So again, my end result that is playing back on the windows 7 box (the specs that are listed above) looks to be heavily compressed and pixelation occurs.
- I have also done the exact same with Apple's Compressor, and have gotten better results muxing while compressing, however the end result still tends to be the same, however the end result is much better. I have gone through 8 or so different compression export settings, and just overall still have the same issue.
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[email protected]

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Ed

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Quicktime Pro VS Sorenson Squeeze which is better for uploading to YouTube?

I'm thinking of buying Quicktime Pro or Sorenson Squeeze - which is better for uploading to YouTube? Which would give my video better quality?
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Second.
YouTube does allow H.264 Video for its "high quality" display so you would want a QuickTime .mov container.
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thanks for that info. that is really good to know.
the only thing is the box that says recompress all frames is shaded unless I check the box that says make movie self-contained. so, does that mean anything? does that mean that it will only recompress frams if you make the movie self-contained? and will never recompress if you just export a reference file?
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I have created some QuickTime movies with Sorenson Squeeze using the standard DV/DVCPro codec. People with Final Cut Pro tell me they cannot import my movies which seems strange. I think they are getting an "unsupported format" error message. Oddly enough when I export directly out of the AVID using the same DV/DVCPro codec they can import my movies. It is very frustrating because I want to use Sorenson to make all my movies (quicktime, windows media, mpeg2, etc) because it can do it all at the same time.
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I have created a simple 6 minute movie in Photo Booth and have been completely unable to import the movie into iMovie. I would like to be able to add music to my movie via iMovie and I'm currently at a loss. Any help?
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Premiere PRO CS4 " unexpectedly quit error" since loaded Sorenson squeeze 8.5 is there a bug fix

Premiere PRO CS4 " unexpectedly quit error" since loaded Sorenson squeeze 8.5 is there a bug fix

CS4 is old, and there will be no more updates, past the ones on the update site
All Adobe updates start here and select product, read to see if you need to install updates in number order, or if the updates are cumulative for the individual product http://www.adobe.com/downloads/updates/
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I'm trying to create flv. files for a video art site on the web. I have tried importing Sorenson 3 mov files, mpeg4 and mpeg2 files and simple QT files, thye all say "files not supported" after the compression says complete, and they won't play. What am I doing wrong? How shoudl I export my final cut pro movies so Squeeze will compress them? Secondly, there are a huge number of choices under flash, which should I be selecting?

I'm trying to create flv. files for a video art site
on the web. I have tried importing Sorenson 3 mov
files, mpeg4 and mpeg2 files and simple QT files,
thye all say "files not supported" after the
compression says complete, and they won't play. What
Huh? Who are they? You mean, Final Cut Pro? Is Quick Time Player selected in 'External Editors' under Final Cut Pro's 'System Settings'?
am I doing wrong? How shoudl I export my final cut
pro movies so Squeeze will compress them? Secondly,
You mean, Sorenson Squeeze 4?
there are a huge number of choices under flash, which
should I be selecting?
Sorry to say, but if you are familar with video compression, those settings are pretty much basic, and I don't know exactly what to explain to you.
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iMac G5 2GHz Mac OS X (10.4.3) 1,536 MB RAM
iMac G5 2GHz Mac OS X (10.4.3) 1,536 MB RAM

Flash 8 Pro V. Sorenson Squeeze.

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I have searched on previous forums for exporting a 4 minute film for the web (.flv) I am a bit confused as some rcommend Sorenson and others Flash 8 Pro. Can anyone tell me what will produce the best quality output?
Like others - I have seen some superb looking results on the web, and want to achieve the same quality.
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Flash 8 offers the On2 VP6 Codec which is there latest for compressing video, it even allows the use of alpha channels. If you have Flash 8 you can export to an .flv file out of Final Cut using the Quicktime conversion. You will see a flv option. You can also export from Quicktime itself. The only draw back to this way is that it is a single pass and although you can customize your compressions I don't think you can save them (or at least I haven't figured out how to yet) to use again with having to re-enter the set-up every time.
Sorenson Squeeze is a great compression program but if you wish to use the On2 VP6 codec you will have to buy it as a separate plug-in. Otherwise you will have to use the Spark Pro codec. Now the nice thing about Squeeze is that it does 2 pass for better looking compression and can save your custom settings.
Mostly I use the Flash 8 to make the On2 VP6 files for a quick client review if they are not here in the edit. I use Flash because it is in just about every browser in use today, this way clients don't have to download anything to be able to view the work.
To tell you the truth I have gotten some nice looking web video playing around with the On2 VP6 settings, but the best looking compressions I have done have come using the h.264 codec, it may be a bit bigger file size but sometimes it is worth the extra bandwidth.
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What is better for general web streaming, Sorenson Squeeze or Cleaner?
Real, WMV, QT are the primary formats I use.
Thanks

Jeff, David is trying to make sure that it's clear what you're looking for. Your comments such as "Streaming and Compressing media before putting it on the web." make it less than clear what it is you think those programs accomplish.
Just to make it clear so we're all sure of what we're talking about, Squeeze and Cleaner don't providing streaming services, only compression. Either product can prepare a video for streaming (providing hinting for RTSP streaming, for instance), but you need a separate software package such as QuickTime Streaming Server to provide the actual streaming service. You may well already know this, but it's not clear from your post, so just making sure.
As to Squeeze vs. Cleaner, until recently I'd say Squeeze hands down. Cleaner hadn't been updated in close to two years and had fallen well behind in compatibility and features. Autodesk recently released a new version of Cleaner, though, which makes Cleaner once again a contender. I've generally preferred the interface of Cleaner for large batch processing (which we do); Squeeze and Apple's Compressor tend to lend themselves better to single or small numbers of files. But I haven't seen the most recent version of Squeeze, so it may have improved in that regard.
As to codec comparisons, I've not seen any good comparisons. Obviously Sorenson is the place to go if you're compressing with their codec. I've seen mixed reports about their H.264 codec, though, so I'd want to investigate further before I chose Squeeze (or Cleaner, for that matter) if H.264 was going to be my primary codec. You might look for additional opinions on Creative Cow, a set of forums for media professionals.
Ultimately, you may want to download the trial versions of each and perform your own testing. That way you would know exactly what each pacakage would deliver in your particular situation and workflow.
Just FYI, Popwire's Compression Master is another compression package worth looking at.
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