Sort order in an hierarchy

Hello Experts,
        How to sort order of the objects in an hierarchy without any change in the master data based on the monthly ratings of the business. Ex:
East
   NY
   NJ
West
   CA
        Now I want the order in East to be changed so that NJ comes first.
        Can this be possible and if so how?
Thanks,
Nikki

Aneesh,
I activated the hierarchy and also ran the attribute change run but still doesn't show the new order i.e.
NJ
NY
The technical names defined are 1 for NY and 2 for NJ and in the report it still shows NY and then NJ under East. Please throw some light on this issue at the earliest.
Thanks,
The hierarchy is defined as time dependent hierarchy structure. Would this matter? Should it be defined as hierarchy structure time dependent?

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Message was edited by: PECourtejoie

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