Sort songs into date transfered on vision

is there anyway to sort songs, into when they were transfered onto the player, if that makes sence.oye and is there anyway to get windows task manager up without using ctrl+alt+del?thnx alot

Hey, I have the exact same problem... It's very frustrating, because no matter what intelligent sorting you use, iOS 7 will end up using the numerotation sort.
I found a way to still have it sorted, it's easy but could be much easier if iOS 7 behaved as iOS 6: all you need to do is sort your playlist in iTunes, as you would do normally, but this time, you then have to right click on the playlist. There should be an option like "copy to play order". What it does is re-index the numbers so that they match your playlist sorting. This way, even your iPhone will have this order. The bummer is it won't do it automatically. So say you wanted to sort by rating, every time you add/change rating, you will have to click on that option again. That s***ks a lot. I have iTunes Match with a lot of music, and it's a pain not to have it sorted.
Anyway, even if it can help, I seriously hope there is a better way to do it.

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Sorting songs into albums

My itunes has decided to sort my songs alphabetically, overnight! How to I sort them back into albums? jennifer

Click at the top of Album column in your library view. If you click on it, it will toggle between displaying Album, Album by Artist and Album by Year, stop at whichever one you want. Then click on the black triangle to get the sort order you want (A to Z or Z to A).

Is there a way to sort songs into alphabetical order under artist as opposed to being grouped by album?

Hi all.
After a long overdue update to my ipod touch I've noticed that when I select an artist my songs are now grouped by album as opposed to alphabetically. Wondering if its possible to change this as I cant find any options or information on this myself.
Thanks.

If you find the music sorting order as annoying as I think most people do, let apple know at:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/

A sorting songs by the "date added" bug on iPhone and iTunes?

So I've run accross a bug (maybe) that has really been annoying me for a few months now. It has been present since like iOS5 beta 3. It has to do with how my songs are sorted on my iPhone. I've always had my songs sorted by "date added" and I have never had a problem with them showing up in that way. During the beta, my songs started showing up backwards on my phone. My oldest songs would show up first on my phone's iPod even though in my iTunes they were sorted with the newest songs on top. I figured this was a bug and that it would be fixed by apple in the later versions of iTunes and after the official release of iOS5, but I was wrong. It didn't fix after I receieved my 4S. On a side note, I was having this problem initially on my iPhone 4, and it continued on to my iPhone 4S. This is probably one of the MOST ANNOYING problems I've had with my iPhone because my car displays my songs in the order they are on my phone too, and in my car I have to use a wheel and not a touchscreen to scroll all the way to the bottom (you get my point). I haven't actually found a fix for this to where everything works as it is supposed to, but today as I was tinkering with my iTunes to finally fix this problem I decided to sort all my songs by "newest songs modified" just to see if it would fix my sorting problem. It worked. My phone now has all my new songs on top of each of my playlists in ONLY the playlists I choose to have sorted in that specific way. After I realized this fixed my problem, I tried to re-sort all my songs by "date added" again just to see if it would fix my problem because having them sorted by "date modified" is an annoying problem I just dont want to have. It didn't work. So right now, I am sorting my songs on my phone by "date modified" because "date added" doesnt sort them the way it is supposed to when any playlist is transferred from my iTunes to my iPhone. Anyone know whats up? How can I let apple know about this annoying problem? Could it just be me and my computer? I've gone through multiple versions of iTunes, iOS5s including beta, and I've had the problem on two different iPhones. Coincidence? By the way I'm running windows 7, and no, I haven't searched much for this problem on forums or on google because it seems too specific to my situation (and im too lazy to look hard enough).

my problem started with the recent upgrade and this idea (sort on PC iTunes by date modified) worked. I did have to remove my playlist from my phone first and then resync to get things to respond but it seems to work. Why on earth Apple does not provide a mechanism for sorting ON THE F*&^ING PHONE is beyond me. For a company who's mantra is building things that 'they'd want to use' this gaff cannot possible fit into that paradigm.

Uploading to online data storage: Now cannot download songs into iTunes

Hello all.
I am not seeing this one on any FAQs, knowledge bases, or discussion boards yet:
I am doing my initial upload of files to SugarSync, a highly-recommended online data storage service. Since I started, I cannot download songs into iTunes, even from the iTunes Store.
On any new downloads from the iTunes Store, the song DOES appear in the Music library view but immediately after completing the download it shows the exclamation point warning that the file is not in its location. The new folders get created properly within the iTunes Music folder but the subfolder where the song should be is empty. Each time I had to write iTunes Support to get them to make the files available.
I can still add files manually, no problem. E.g., I can add *.mp3 or *.wav files or folders, I can convert them to AAC, etc. The glitch seems to occur only when automated loads into iTunes are operating.
As a test, I downloaded a song from Amazon. Here the problem was different but I could work around it manually. Normally the Amazon process loads songs automatically into iTunes, too. Here again, the download did create the proper folder in the iTunes Music folder, as it should, but this time the symptoms were reversed:
(a) the mp3 file WAS in its folder as it should be (w/the iTunes DL, the file was NOT there)
(b) the song did NOT appear in the iTunes Music view (w/the iTunes DL, the song DID appear)
(c) I was able to browse to the file and tell it manually to load into iTunes (w/iTunes I had to write Support and wait a day).
(I wonder what's the cause of the differences between the two cases.)
Strictly speaking, I can't PROVE the problem has anything to do with SugarSync (which otherwise seems good so far), but the DL problem started as soon as I started using it. Something in the SugarSync upload or file-monitoring process, or an odd thin gin iTunes, seems to be preventing automated, direct loads into iTunes. And since the data service runs in background, so it can monitor file changes, that might mean I can't buy music anymore! Obviously that would be a dealbreaker with SS. (I have contacted SS on this but they've not had fair chance to reply yet.)
1) Anyone else have this problem?
2) Is this permanent or just temporary while I am doing the initial upload?
3) Anyone know a solution?
(FYI, I am a highly-experienced user and otherwise quite handy with iTunes files, library moves, and backups. My library is entirely consolidated and all AAC.)
Thanks.
(Oh, and this occurred in both iTunes 8 and the new iTunes 9, so it seems unrelated to the upgrade this week.)

UPDATE 1. CHANGING BROWSER HELPED -- OR DID IT?
I called Apple iTunes Support, who said the problem is new to them. The technician's hypothesis was that something, perhaps browser-related, was interfering with the initial creation of a temporary file (which should go to the Recycle Bin) that instead causes the completed file to go to there.
He noted that iTunes, though not going through one's browser onscreen, does use settings within one's default browser. I use Mozilla Firefox, so we switched to IE as the default browser, restarted iTunes, and the song downloaded with no problem! Then I switched back to Mozilla, restarted iTunes, and it worked AGAIN with no problem!
(Dutifully I advised SugarSync, which is still investigating.)
UPDATE 2: ARTIST NAME CHANGE - SOME FILES GOT MIS-MOVED / MIS-CHANGED
Definitely something still wrong. This time some pre-existing song entries (not new downloads) lost their connection to their source file.
In iTunes, which manages folder names for artists and albums automatically, I corrected the spelling for an Artist, so immediately iTunes renamed the folder, and automatically SugarSync noted the change to be uploaded. While the changed folder name and all the songs within were still uploading to SS, in iTunes I saw exclamation points come up -- but only for some of them. Most files got moved or changed correctly, but several lost connection to their file (i.e., the file was removed for the original misnamed folder but never moved into the correctly-named folder). Weird.
Worse, in only some of those cases did I find the missing *.m4a file in the Recycle bin. (I had to retrieve old, original *.mp3 versions from another folder and re-import each into iTunes manually.) I've never seen iTunes have a problem managing an Artist rename until I started using the live SS process.
(I've reported this to SS and asked if there is a way to disable temporarily SS to see if that's the problem.)
[Note: I am willing to try downloads again but I am wary of trying to rename entire Artists (Folder) again. That was a lot of work.]
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UPDATE 3: SERIES OF TESTS - 1 FAILURE USING iTUNES
Still problem occurs, but not always. Today, I rebooted PC. I tried CD, iTunes, & Amazon. I varied having the browser open when using iTunes.
Here are the results of a series of attempts to download songs. "FAIL" means the file did not load properly into iTunes or loaded but lost its connection (exclamation point warning).
# Source Mozilla #Songs Result
1 CD Closed 1 OK
2 iTunes Closed 1 OK
3 Amazon Open 2 OK
4 iTunes Open 1 FAIL
5 Amazon Open 1 OK
6 iTunes Closed 1 OK
7 Amazon Open 2 OK
8 iTunes Open 2 OK
(I reported this to SS. Hoping they'll test and find the problem.)

How do I delete duplicate songs in my iTunes? I have hundreds and I don't want to delete them one by one. They were all added on the same date, so sorting by the date won't help.

How do I delete duplicate songs in my iTunes? I have hundreds and I don't want to delete them one by one. They were all added on the same date, so sorting by the date won't help.

Hi, if this is in regards to your library simply open up itunes and do the following steps:
Click File
Scroll down to "show duplicates"
A list will then appear of your duplicate song titles.
Be sure to CAREFULLY review each song to make sure it is a duplicate ( as I have some music that is the same song but live, acoustic etc...)
Proceed to manually delete each song from the list and leave alone any song that you wish to keep.
Best of luck,
Cait

HT2905 Most all of my 1700 songs have been duplicated in iTunes. I have downloaded the instructions how to delete the duplicates but it says "sort by the date you added" and i have no column that says that. I am running windows xp.

Most all of my 1700 songs have been duplicated in iTunes. I have downloaded the instructions how to delete the duplicates but it says "sort by the date you added" and i have no column that says that. I am running windows xp.

Apple's official advice is here... HT2905 - How to find and remove duplicate items in your iTunes library. It is a manual process and the article fails to explain some of the potential pitfalls.
Use Shift > View > Show Exact Duplicate Items to display duplicates as this is normally a more useful selection. You need to manually select all but one of each group to remove. Sorting the list by Date Added may make it easier to select the appropriate tracks, however this works best when performed immediately after the dupes have been created. If you have multiple entries in iTunes connected to the same file on the hard drive then don't send to the recycle bin.
Use my DeDuper script if you're not sure, don't want to do it by hand, or want to preserve ratings, play counts and playlist membership. See this thread for background and please take note of the warning to backup your library before deduping.
(If you don't see the menu bar press ALT to show it temporarily or CTRL+B to keep it displayed)
tt2

I loaded my ipad photos from camera and all the pictures sorted by date. Next, I did a sync with my computer and the photos were all reorganized into IMPRT folders an out of date sequence. Any idea how to put the photos back into date files?

I loaded my ipad photos from camera and all the pictures sorted by date. I later sync my ipad with my computer and the photos were all reorganized into IMPRT folders an out of date sequence. Any idea how to put the photos back into date files other than reloading all of them from camera?

What version of iPhoto?
Select one and rotate it. Then rotate it back. Does that make it appear?
A much better work flow is the keep the photos after importing. Check the success the import, wait for at least one successful backup cycle then use you camera's format command to reformat the card
LN

I have old Macintosh LC that recently passed on, anyone know where I can get this repaired or have the data transferred into something else?

I have an old Macintosh LC that recently went down. I am located in the Portsmouth, NH area.
Anyone know where I can get this repaired or have the data transferred??

How much $$ do you care to spend to transfer the data on the LC's 40 or 80 MB hard drive? The original LC is now 21 years-old and has little if any market value (I know - I have an LC I and an LC III), so professional repair will easily exceed that. It's considered "obsolete" by Apple's authorized repair shops, so parts are not available. Was it starting up normally before it stopped working, and if so, were the date & time always correct after it had been disconnected from an electrical outlet? If not and if startups have been hit or miss for a while, your LC undoubtedly needs a new PRAM battery installed. It's a 3.6-volt ½AA lithium battery and is installed in a black plastic holder w/retainer cover clipped over it on the LC's motherboard. The battery can be purchased at battery specialty retailers for about $8 or less, as well as from a number of online merchants. If you don't mind paying 2-3 times the value of the battery, Radio Shack carries it. If you need directions for installing the battery, post back. It's the least expensive thing to try and a new battery has brought many a dead Mac back from the dead. As for the internal hard drive, it could be removed and installed in a slightly newer, pre-G3 Power Mac having an internal SCSI bus. If there are any thrift stores in your area, you might find a suitable Mac for this purpose. This would involve removal of the hard drive from the LC and installation in the newer Mac, with a slight change in the LC's SCSI address jumper placement. Once installed in the newer Mac, the files could be copied. If this is more challenging than you planned on, you might check your area for a Mac User Group, where you might be able to take your LC and have someone transfer the files for you. After the files have been transferred to another medium, you may have problems trying to open them on a newer Mac running a newer OS version than the LC's (System 7.0, 7.1, 7.5.x, or 7.6), if the programs aren't compatible.

Sorting Songs By Album!!!

I have transferred my music from windows to Itunes BUT, I have 10 albums for 50cent, each album only containg one song!!! IS THERE A WAY I CAN HAVE MY MUSIC IN CORRECT ALBUMS?? This is without having to do it individually to each song, can I wipe all music in ITUNES and recopy them so it sorts it into its albums like in windows AND NOT BY ARTIST? As you can imagine, this has occured on most of my albums not to mention complinations!! PLEASE HELP!

In general iTunes will always use artist first not album. To get around this there are several options:
Fill in album artist - this overrides artist info, album stored using album artist
Set as compilation - files will store under compilation/album
Edit tags - remove information causing iTunes to sort the way you don't want, most often due to different artists in artist tag
I tend to use album artist method instead of compilation except when album is truly a compilation of different artists (soundtracks).
Message was edited by: camoracer

Sort 'albums' to date order

I recently upgraded to OS Yosemite X and my photos transferred from iPhotos to Photos. Frankly, Photos is a mess and not user friendly.
My problem is that my hundreds of 'iPhoto events' appeared in an 'iPhoto Events' folder within 'Photos albums'. I selected them all and then converted them all into separate 'albums'. Unfortunately, they are now all mixed up out of date order and there doesn't appear to be any way you can put them in correct date order. I then did an 'undo' to put they all back into the 'iPhoto events' folder and they are in the same mixed up state.
Please can anyone advise me how to get them back into date order?

I agree. Have experienced exactly the same. I have spent hours manually sorting Albums into order - why is there no option to sort by date? Asked in Apple Store and they could not answer. Hopefully Apple will fix this soon.
Also found that when photos are in Albums there is no way of editing - can only be done in Photos.
Can't merge Albums either.
Can't save emailed photos to Photo either - there's an option to do that but it does't appear to work - I don't know where it's sent.
It's a not at all user friendly. Photos are sorted how Apple think you want to see them i.e. en masse and in date order on Photos - I DON'T WANT THAT.
It wasn't made clear on the update to Yosemite that such a drastic change would happen - I wish I hadn't updated.

Sorting Songs in iTunes Question

Hi all. I am rather new to iTunes, and I'd like to use it as my default media player.
I have a vast amount of music on my computer already from burning CDs onto my computer, and I have sorted all these songs by folder. Now I have imported all these songs into my iTunes library.
My question is, is there anyway to sort the songs in my iTunes library by the folder on my computer? This would be a great help, because right now they are just in one huge clump.
Thanks so much.

+I am rather new to iTunes, and I'd like to use it as my default media player.+
Shouldn't you use it for a while before you make that decision?
+I have a vast amount of music on my computer already from burning CDs onto my computer, and I have sorted all these songs by folder.+
From an iTunes perspective, that was wasted work!
+My question is, is there anyway to sort the songs in my iTunes library by the folder on my computer?+
Look in iTunes at View > Options and you will see over 25 data fields that iTunes can display and can sort on. iTunes can sort on almost anything - except folder.
As polydorus notes, iTunes by design relies on the tags, not on the file (folder) structure. It is quite nice when you get used to it, but to enjoy it will require a head shift from the folder-focused notion that you now have.

Getting data transfered from old HD to new ones, leaving 2 slots filled . .

Hello,
*(Below is a thread I started in another forum, but, didn't get my final questions answered (see at bottom of this post in BOLD), and am hoping for further help and suggestions. I know there is a lot to read here, but, I think this information will help other novices, such as myself. Thanks!)*
I have 2 new HDs (each 1T) uninstalled, and I have my old HD (160 gigs) currently residing in one of the two slots in my G5. Any ideas on the best way/process to get the data transfered from the old HD to the new ones, leaving my two slots filled with the 2 new drives AND my data from the old HD transfered and intact, with a RAID0 setup?
OR, are there any other suggestions on a good setup with the 2 new HDs??
I'm open to suggestions.
I always back-up on external HDs, so, is their a need for me to worry about setting up a RAID0??
I'm doing video processing for DVD release.
Should I just max out the 2x1T gig HDs and not worry about a HD failure??
All Suggestions welcomed!!
Thanks, Jack
*FROM THE CUTTERMAN:*
You are limited with only 2 drive slots. In this scenario what usually works best is a small fast drive (eg Velocirapter or SSD) for OSX/Applications and a large drive for video files. It is not advisable to have the operating system running from a striped array.
Since you already have the drives, here is what you can do.
Install one new drive and format the partition you wish to use for OSX. You may not want to use the whole drive for OSX, so make 2 partitions. Be sure that it is GPT-formatted so it can boot.
Use CarbonCopy Cloner to copy your current OSX partition to the new one.
Set the startup disk as the new partition.
Remove the old drive and replace it with the second new one.
Reboot, and partition/format new drive.
*Hey Cutterman,*
Thanks for the advice. That sounds like a good set-up. I'll have to research the process of doing what you've advised, but, should work out ok:
A. Install one new drive and format the partition you wish to use for OSX. You may not want to use the whole drive for OSX, so make 2 partitions:
1. Partitions are done under Disc Utilities correct? Never done it before; will take a look.
B. Be sure that it is GPT-formatted so it can boot.
2. GPT is also done under Disc Utilities, correct? Here I start to get a bit confused, as I've formatted Extended Journal, SO, the partition with the OSX & Applications is formatted GPT, and the rest of the HD is formatted as Extended Journal?
C. Use CarbonCopy Cloner to copy your current OSX partition to the new one.
3. So, I partition the first new HD and use Carbon Copy Cloner (also under Disc Utilities) to copy the OSX & Applications from my original HD to the first new HD, correct?
D. Set the startup disk as the new partition.
4. This will be an option when I setup the partition???
E. Remove the old drive and replace it with the second new one.
F. Reboot, and partition/format new drive.
5. QUESTION: So, you recommend not striping the HDs: If I do a RAID 1, which sets up a mirror of the HDs, and since the first new HD is partitioned with the OSX & Applications, AND is set up as the Startup Disk, then the second new HD will also mirror that?? Another QUESTION: Even if the second new HD does not mirror the OSX & Applications, the second HD will only mirror the space/partition not utilized by the OSX & Applications partition, correct?
Thanks for your help!!
Jack
*FROM THE CUTTERMAN:*
OK I will try to answer your questions. To begin, if you want to mirror the 2 drives then you will need to boot from the SL install DVD or an external (USB/firewire) drive to set it up. IMO for your purposes it is too much hassle and a waste of HD space.
1) Yes partitions are created in Disk Utility
2) Yes, you choose a volume Scheme (ie number of partitions) and size them by dragging the separator bar. Then select the planned boot partition and click Options..., then choose GPT. I think it is usually the default but check and make sure. Extended journaled is the usual format.
3) You need to download Carbon Copy. It is a free tool that will copy the entire image of your current system partition to the new one and make it bootable. Consider making a donation as it is a very useful and frequently updated utility. It is fairly intuitive to use. You can also use the restore feature in Disk Utility but I have had more experience with Carbon Copy.
4) Once the copy process is finished the new boot partition will show up under the startup disk selections (this tool is in System Preferences).
*FROM 666Sheep:*
If may i correct one thing: OP, don't choose GPT (GUID Partition Table). You got PPC Mac (G5), so valid partition type for you is Apple Partition Map (APM).
GPT is for Intel Macs and you will not able to boot from this kind of partition.
*FROM THE CUTTERMAN:*
Thanks for the correction- my bad. No familiarity with non-Intel Macs.
G5 PowerMac, 2.5 GHz Dual, Dec. 2004, 6.5 GB RAM, 149 GB HD
*Hi All,*
*Since this process will come to a head on Tuesday/Wednesday, and I hope to be successful in transferring Old HD data to new HD/s.*
*A: I'm still a little foggy here, as I thought I'd set up the 2 new T-gig HDs so that if one of them failed, I'd still have the data backed up on the other HD; more ideas concerning this would be reassuring:*
*WHAT DOES "IMO" mean?*
*(IMO for your purposes it is too much hassle and a waste of HD space.)*
*As I understand the points made: After I partition the first new HD, and Carbon Copy data from old HD, I then install second new HD, and this will just act as an overflow from the first partitioned HD, correct? Because, if set up a Raid1/Mirror, the OSX partitioned portion of the first new HD will not copy to the second new HD, and that space on the second new HD will be wasted, correct?*
*Also: I have to set up RAID1 (if I do not set up RAID0), correct?*
*RAID 1*
*From WIKI: RAID 1 mirrors the contents of the disks, making a form of 1:1 ratio real time mirroring. The contents of each disk in the array are identical to that of every other disk in the array. A RAID 1 array requires a minimum of two drives.*
*Carbon Copy is a free tool that will copy the entire image of your current system partition to the new one and make it bootable.*
*1. Is my old HD partitioned? Is that done automatically by MAC prior to PC purchase?*
*2. Do I Carbon Copy the whole old HD or just parts? (eg. OSX, Photo Shop, After Effects, Various Files)*
*3. I read that it is necessary to DEACTIVATE Photo Shop (I have CS3) prior to doing Carbon Copy. Is that correct? If so, does this also apply to other Adobe applications? Such as After Affects, Illustrator??*
*Thanks to all for the help!!*
*G5 PowerMac, 2.5 GHz Dual, Dec. 2004, 6.5 GB RAM, 149 GB HD*

Confusing Information:
A1: You also want to make sure the drive you are backing up to is formatted Mac HFS Extended (HFS+) if using Mac OS 8.1 or above.
A2: On PowerPC Macs, your clone should be partitioned as Apple Partition Map.
*Q? I thought the new HD (1T) should be formatted in Extended Journaled?*
B: Also disable Spotlight (in 10.4 only) on your destination drive using Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Spotlight -> Privacy to add the destination drive to the pane.
*Q? I'm using 10.4.11, so, I should follow these instructions?*
C: If possible, boot into safe mode to perform the backup (holding the SHIFT key at startup). In addition, you can clone while logged into another administrative user that you don't use at all to avoid further complications of changes which may be happening to your regular user (though don't use Fast User Switching to get into that other user, since that other user is still active when fast user switching is used). Otherwise you are going to be running a backup on a live system which could have changes happening while you are attempting to backup. These may yield an imperfect clone, with uncertain success at recovery. It may be possible that your clone will have its own hardware issues, so make at least two copies.
*Q? ?????????????*
*I GOT THE ABOVE INFO. FROM THE FOLLOWING SITE:*
Making a clone/mirror/duplicate backup
http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html#SHORTANDEASY
*ALSO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE ADVICE ON THIS PAGE:*
http://www.levoltz.com/2010/04/21/how-to-transfer-data-to-your-new-hard-drive/

Why Does iTunes Make Combining Songs Into a Single Album So Difficult?

Can anyone explain, or refer me to a website, that explains and lists in a "1,2,3" manner the illogic of the iTunes "get info" panes and why iTunes splits, combines and erases data depending upon what you put in the "get info" area. I have looked at many websites with suggestions and some work and some don't. The frustration I have is that I cannot decipher the logic of what iTunes is doing. Some comments and examples:
1. I thought it was convention when you highlight multiple anythings, and specify a change, this change is done on all highlighted things. For example, when I want to combine several songs into a single album, highlight them all and fill in information in the "get info area", sometimes it combines, sometimes it splits the songs, sometimes it erases the artwork. Even when I specify "part of a compilation".
2. Sometimes when I add "various artists", it combines the various highlighted songs but then erases the artwork.
3. One would think that when you specify any songs as "part of a compilation" that would automatically force these songs into a single album. Sometimes iTunes does, and sometime it does not.
4. Even when I think I have entered exactly the same information there apparently is something different. It has taken me up to 15 minutes first of very careful checking of spelling, spacing, etc. then just totally randomly changing something before I can get songs together.
5. Why isn't there just a very simple button that says something like: "no matter what, force the highlighted songs into a single album? Is there any way to simply and easily force songs together into a single album no matter what is in the individual "get info" areas?
Anyway, you get the idea. Surely there is some set of rules or logic that I am totally missing. Thanks.

Thanks, that was extremely helpful but unfortunately this very well laid out website confirms the fact that this is a very un-Apple-like interface that is confusing, contradictory and extremely difficult to use. Not sure if anyone from Apple reads these threads, but in the next version they need to do an extremely serious remake. I think this part of the interface must have been designed by refugees from the PC camp who somehow got hired by Apple!
Thanks again.

How do I get itunes to sort songs the same way my ipod does, without renaming the songs?

Itunes and my ipod use different algorithms when sorting songs. Here are a few examples:
In itunes, apostrophes come before spaces/other characters ("It's Good to Be King" comes before "It Keeps You Runnin'" and "You're an Original" comes before "You Better You Bet." In my ipod, apostrophes come after spaces/other characters.
In itunes, numerical song titles are sorted by the first number, then the second, and so on (18, 1983, 2112, 25, 3). In my ipod, numerical song titles are sorted in ascending numerical order (3, 18, 25, 1983, 2112).
The order is relevant for two reasons. One, I like the sound of the song flow generated by my ipod's sorting better than the one generated by itunes. Two, I use play count to determine whether or not to keep a song on my playlist (songs that I skip over repeatedly get cut entirely) and the changing song order tends to mess up the play count.
So, other than going in and changing the names of the songs, is there some way to make itunes behave like my ipod?

I deal with the numeric ordering by padding out the sort fields with leading zeros. iTunes used to sort numbers by value but it seems the code for that got removed at some point and hasn't been replaced. You should be able to use sort values to achieve some consistency between the two views of your media.
See also Grouping tracks into albums.
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