Sorted list view slow.. OS9 is better..

its when making a folder view option as a list view then sort it by date or size, the window refresh slow or it doesnt refresh at all, u still the same view even if theres more files came, or bigger file saved into that folder, like the finder forgets about this window.. and the finder suddenly wakes up when u try to double click on a file that u see in the list.. it run from u and u find that u opened a different file just because the finder forgot to keep this folder updated...
its funny that in OS9 this thing never happend.. u keep seeing every thing happens all the time folder changes files keep updates more often..
is it me or OSX? though i've been suffering from it since OSX1..
my machine is: iMac 20"/2.1GHZ/1GB RAM/250GB HD/10.4.5.. so if any one thinks its slow... its not

"i've been suffering from it since OSX1.."
I'm with you on that one (10.0 for me) - the OS X "Finder" failing to refresh windows has been a complaint since the beginning of OS X. The techie types try to tell you how inefficient "polling" is and how this way is better, completely missing the point that it doesn't matter if you save a few cpu cycles if you are wasting seconds every time you want to access a file because you can't trust what the "Finder" is showing you. I had heard that "Tiger" actually improved a lot in this area (eg. with files added through the command line), but other reports have said that "Finder" does fail to update when certain apps are adding the files (I'm actually still on "Panther").
It is truly strange that the company (if only in name) that became famous for their user-centric GUI is the same one responsible for the OS X "Finder". The "Finder" with each version of "OS X" is becoming progressively less user friendly - eg. It takes more mouse clicks to rename an item (icon & list view) in "Tiger" than in earlier versions (yes, I am aware of pressing "Return"). "Tiger" also saw the elimination of "Find", replacing it with "Spotlight", which I gather is more powerful in many ways, but has some surprising blind spots. The ⌘G "Go to Folder" function apparently no longer takes you to invisible folders (although it will take you to a visible folder within an invisible one). On the topic of "invisibles", when 'AppleShowAllFiles' is enabled, all files appear grayed out, not just the ones that would normally be invisible. I had also heard that in "Tiger", you can no longer user control-tab to rotate through the various sort criteria in "List View" (Name, Date Modified, Kind, etc.) as you could in "Panther". You can no longer disable the annoying "Are you sure" warning when you change the extension of a file as you could in "Panther". The "hot scroll zone" at the bottom of a window in "List View" has been reported to be expanded compared to "Panther", so that it is almost impossible to click on a file near the bottom of a "List view" window without selecting multiple files (the problem existed in "Panther" but apparently is much more unmanageable in "Tiger"). "Panther" saw the elimination of marquée style selection in "List View", a standard in pre OS X and something that Windows does. And just compare the gaudiness of Finder "Labels" in "Panther" and "Tiger" to the more subtle yet equally informative method used in pre-OS X. And though not exactly a "Finder" problem, the introduction in "Panther" of the automatic file renaming behaviour in "Save" dialogues (which I'm not against as a feature) was done in such a way that people are prone to lose data...
umm what were we talking about? Oh yeah, "Finder" not refreshing in a timely manner in some situations. Sorry I don't have a solution, but I agree that it is likely not a problem with your hardware, but a function of a design choice made by the "Finder" developers. And it definitely is not "just you".

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dannycorker wrote:
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