Sorting Albums in Grid View

This must be a simple fix, but for the life of me I can't figure it out. I just entered George Michael's CD, Faith into a new playlist. The playlist is set to sort albums by TITLE and then ARTIST. No matter what I do, this particular album will not go into the right place. It always goes to the end of the list. I have checked everything I could think of but no luck. If I put an "a" in front of FAITH, it sorts to the beginning of the playlist. Anybody have any ideas as to why this is happening. Thanks

see if this excellent read by Steve MacGuire helps.
JGG

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ITunes sorting albums in grid view

In the grid view, my library lists albums multiple times if there are various artists on the same album. I have tried to reset my view options (Sort Albums, By Title) but cannot "uncheck" the By Artist option. I am very irritated and at my wits end! Does anyone have a solution for this?

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9606261#9606261

Sorting problems in Grid View

Hi, I'm having a bit of a sorting problem when it comes to an artist with name variations. The example I'm going to use is DJ Tiesto.
There are album I have where he is credited as DJ Tiesto, and others where he is simply Tiesto.
In the end, I'd like these albums sorted chronologically under one name (say DJ Tiesto), while still preserving and showing the proper artist name for each album. I have it set to sort by "Album by Year", which is working fine.
The major problem I am having is that I can't get it to display properly across all iTunes viewing methods: List mode, Grid mode, and Coverflow.
I've tried leaving the Artist field alone, and changing the Sort Artist field to "DJ Tiesto" for all songs, and that almost works:
-List mode groups them all under "DJ Tiesto", while showing each albums Artist as the correct artist name.
-Grid mode sorted by Album groups them all under "DJ Tiesto", while showing each albums Artist as the correct artist name.
-Coverflow sorts them all in chronological order, while showing each albums Artist as the correct artist name.
Problem is, Grid mode sorted by ARTIST creates two separate artists! Some for DJ Tiesto and some for Tiesto!
To correct this I tried changing the Album Artist field for all songs to "DJ Tiesto", which solved that problem but created a bunch of new ones:
-List mode is still correctly grouping them under "DJ Tiesto", while showing each albums Artist as the correct artist name.
-Grid mode sorted by Album is still correctly grouping them under "DJ Tiesto", *however now it is not displaying the correct Artist name for each album!*
-Grid mode sorted by Artist is now grouping them all under "DJ Tiesto", *however it is not displaying the correct Artist name for each album!*
-Coverflow is sorting them in correct chronological order, *however it as well is not displaying the correct Artist name for each album!*
Using the Album Artist tag has created more problems that it has solved! Is there anyone who knows a way to achieve what I am trying to do? I have tried seemingly every option I can and have still not found a way to do this!!
Thanks!

My own method of working involves renaming the files upon import to:
i "shotdate_sequencenumber"
Files are therefore typically named
b 2007-11-25_001
etc.
This way, sorting by Filename automatically sorts by Date by default. And it wouldn't even matter if you added a descriptive text in between the date and number (
b 2007-11-25_Scotland_001

Sorting Options in "Grid View"

Hey everyone. For the longest time I haven't had any problems with the newest release of iTunes, and in fact, love the Grid view, where I can see all my albums as if I had laid them out in a grid. I really like that. But one of my most favorite things to do on iTunes was to sort my music by most Recently Added, so I could listen to my newest music. Unfortunately, I don't think I can do that in the Grid view. When I switch over to the List view, it will, but not in Grid view, which I would love. Any help? Thank you!

I'm with ya, Alex - I love my most Recently Added view, and it's what I sort my entire library by, most often. I never did color in the lines, or go by the alphabet, which programmers want me to do.
Suggest it here, I have:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
You'd think with APple trying to be so hip and in-the-moment this feature would be a given! Since they are all about trying to have the more recent thing

Playing a playlist with multiple albums in Grid View in iTunes 8

Hi All,
Here is a situation I came across, that was quite unexpected compared to the behaviour in iTunes 7.
Suppose I have a playlist with multiple artists/albums. I have this playlist in Grid View. I choose this playlist from the left side navigation tree and press the play button. This playlist is set to shuffle by songs. I expect it to play a song and jump to the next song. iTunes 8 would just keep playing the same songs in the first album listed in the Grid View and would not jump to any other.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4726/itunes20080910191124oh2.jpg
In this screenshot above, it will keep the songs in "The Very Best Of". If I press Ctrl+L (show now playing) then it would show only the songs in this album. This quite explains why it doesn't play other songs.
To explain a bit more on what's happening:
If I go to List View the song now playing does not have the Now Playing icon:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1113/itunes20080910191500vf3.jpg
Notice it is playing "Opa Opa" but in the List View, it doesn't show it.
This is because in Grid View if you play a song from the playlist, it has its own "virtual playlist"
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5269/itunes20080910191525wl1.png
Notice the now playing icon there.
Why is this the case?
I hope you guys understood what I was trying to explain.

turingtest2: I had already done exactly what you described in the *"Missing Artist or Album not with others by same artist"* section of your article. But what I hadn't done was the advice you gave as the last sentence in this section...*"In addition if you change the Compilation status of tracks they may be temporarily treated as tracks from an Unknown Album, again things should resolve themselves if you close and reopen iTunes".* As soon as I closed and restarted iTunes, the Unknown Album with five tracks disappeared and the tracks were again displayed with the correct album.
Your article is a great read, even for people who understand iTunes...there is a lot of helpful advice there to have bookmarked just in case any of the other problems you address are ever encountered. Thanks for taking the time to compile it and share it iTunes users.

Cannot sort images in grid view?

I am trying to re-arrange the order of images in the grid view by mean of drag-and-drop, but LR doesn't allow me to do it. I also manually selected "User Order" from the sort menu with no effect. It is happening only with the latest bunch of photos I imported (both in Collection and Folder), while LR still allows me to re-arrange my old images. I must be missing something obvious (not to me)... any idea?

User sort order comes up on this forum so frequently that the subject deserves to be in the FAQ, especially since user sorting is almost totally undocumented.
As Lee Jay points out, what is implemented is a design decision. There is a basic conflict here between user sort order and the existence of subfolders.
The current implementation has a few rough edges. For example, even including all sub-items in the top folder doesn't free up sorting as has been suggested, at least in my Windows version. Also, even if a sub-folder is empty, user sorting is still frozen in parents. BTW, a sub-folder is one recognized by LR. A folder can have sub-folders in the underlying file system not in the catalog. These have no effect as far as I can tell.
However, in all the cases I have tried, user sorting is available within and into stacks at any level regardless of whether sub-folders exist. I can move things around freely in a stack or from outside the stack (even from another stack) into the stack. Reversal is possible in stack-to-stack moves but not from a stack to the outside, unless the folder has no sub-folders. This fact might help work around the limitation in some cases.

Printing Album in Grid View

Is it possible to print the Alban Grid view, end up with just a page of album covers with the album name under each album cover. Ronnie

Which particular version of iTunes are you running, john? 10.6.1.7, 10.6.0.40, or something earlier?

10.1 Grid View Album Song "Name" Column Gone?

In 10.1, Grid View, when an Album is selected and its individual tracks are shown, the "Name" column is no longer visible and there is no way to turn it back on, either in the contextual menu accessed by right-clicking in the column header or in View > View Options (Cmd-J). "Name" is not an option. The "Name" column is visible in the other view modes (Song List, Album List, Cover Flow), but not within an album in Grid View.
I've deleted the preferences and restarted iTunes, but no change.
Anyone else experiencing this or have any recommendations?

kentonkeeter,
This is the way I would approach it:
- Quit all applications
- Remove ~/Library/Caches and ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.iTunes.plist
- Log out of your user account, and then log back in and test
- Additionally, you can quit all applications and remove both com.apple.iTunes.eq.plist and com.apple.iTunesHelper.plist, then log out and in to see if that has an effect, although I normally wouldn't expect them to.
If the same issue persists:
- Quit all applications
- Remove ~/Library/iTunes/iTunes Plug-ins (you can drag to the Desktop so as not to lose it; you can always put it back)
- Log out and in, and test
Normally, this will take care of the issue so long as you follow the steps in order. If not, normally the next step is to isolate ~/Library/Preferences entirely by quitting all applications, re-naming the Preferences folder (like to Preferences1), and log out and in and test. Keep in mind when logging back in, your account will change appearance. You can revert these changes by once again quitting all applications, renaming the current ~/Library/Preferences (like to Preferences2), then change the original folder's name back to Preferences. Then log out and in.
Hope this helps,
Raleigh

Grid view slow to scroll

My preference is to view my albums by grid view.
However, I'm getting frustrated that when I scroll there is a short wait while it loads up the next lot of album cover art. The bit I don't understand is why it doesn't do this in the background ahead of time in the knowledge that when I'm in grid view I'm very likely to be scrolling and therefore it should load all the album artwork into memory.
Currently, i tend to force the complete scroll before I search, just so it is all loaded up and then I can smoothly scroll while I'm perusing my music.
Is there a way I can force this caching? I have boat loads of memory (3GB) most of which is free at anyone time. I also tend to leave iTunes on all the time so it would be better if iTunes could hold all this in memory.
Any suggestions gratefully received!

I'm having exactly the same problem. I can't find a hidden preference to cache the thumbnails of album covers, and consequently, in grid view, the overall effect is slow and amateurish.

Make Edit time and Edit count info available in Loupe Info, grid view option, Edit History panel and Smart Collection

We all know that Lightroom can sort images in grid view by edit time or edit count. I cannot find any way to display edit time and/or edit count in view option or loupe info. I think these should be made viewable. Without them, when you have a large batch of image and you previously edited only some and come back later to finish, you don't know which ones need more work, etc.
Another useful thing is that Edit History should have an option to show the date/time of the edit. It may be shown when mouse is hovered over an edit item line.
Similarly, smart folder can filter the images by Edit Time being before/after a certain date. However, if I have no way of knowing what the edit times and counts are, this feature has little use.
Alll of the above should be a specific date like 08-20-2009 or Today, yesterday, 43 days ago, etc. Both forms are useful for different purposes.

Good idea.
Also, it would be good if the SDK functions for updating custom metadata did not necessarily bump the edit time.

Only Show Albums in Grid?

Is there a way to make iTunes only show albums that have album art in grid mode.
When on my iPhone when I turn it it only shows the ones with art why can't iTunes do this?
Jon

I have to agree with you ZS. It seems quite a disappointment not having the ability to scroll through the albums in grid view, especially when you have hundreds of albums. Deleting music from the iPad has become a bit of a pain in the butt as well. Hopefully the next update will fix this oversight. Tough on the wrists scrolling through with list view only. Not only that but much more visually appealing with grid view.
Cheers!

Why does iTunes grid view not remember default sort settings?

Hello,
I am using iTunes 8.1 and I like to use the Grid view (Artists). Using the Grid view and clicking on an artist to look at the albums, I like to sort the albums within using "Album by Year".
Once I have made this change, it sticks until I close iTunes, so I can go into any other artist from Grid view and the albums will be listed using "Album by Year" automatically.
When I restart iTunes and click on an artist in grid view, iTunes has reverted to sorting via the first column, the one with track numbers. I then have to manually click "Album by Year" to get it sorted again.
I was wondering if anyone else has had this issue and if there is a solution to it? This also happened in iTunes before I upgraded to 8.1.
Thanks

Unfortunately, I can't offer any solution because I'm experiencing the same kind of trouble. Please help us! It would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
-- D

Albums split up in new grid view on itunes 8

when browsing my albums in the new grid tab of itunes, some of my albums are split up into their own separate album. for example the "august rush" album i purchased from itunes is split into twelve different albums. how do i combine those songs so all the songs are in one album slot?
i have already changed the "sort album by" to "title" in the "view" tab.
any suggestions and i would really appreciate it

*Grouping tracks into albums*
Excuse the long post, but hopefully covering all the bases (that I can think of) will help you fix the other issues you are likely to run into as you try to organise your library.
The iPod (and iTunes to a lesser extent) conflates two or more albums with the same title, most obviously with *Greatest Hits*. On the iPod this can result in one album acting as a combination of two or more. Selecting any cover gives all the tracks of all albums with the same title. The workaround for this "Greatest Hits" bug is to give each album a unique title - I tend to go for *Album - Album Artist* as this reads clearly in the iTunes browser. Alternatively you could use the wording as it appears on the cover, append different numbers of spaces for each different album or set different values for the Sort Album.
iTunes relies on the Gracenote CDDB database when identifying CD's. This often marks collections or anthologies of an artist's work as a compilation. In iTunes, however, the compilation flag has the logical function of grouping together tracks with the same album name, but different artists on each track, e.g. "Now That's What I Call Metal 666!". These compilations are then all grouped together at the end of cover flow. Most of us however, would expect "Greatest Hits" albums to be listed with the other albums by the same album artist. For albums which are essentially by a single album artist or group it is best to set the appropriate value for the album artist and clear the compilation flag.
Sadly the iPod ignores the Album Artist field when grouping albums which causes problems when some tracks list guest artists. You can simply mark the entire album as a compilation which seems to be the way iTMS handles it, however that's not an ideal fix. Short of waiting for Apple to address this issue (and as far as I can tell it goes back to the 1st gen. of iPods) we need a workaround. What I do is to put any additional artist info. in square brackets after the song name. E.g. *Track \[Feat. Guest\]* and then set *Artist=Album Artist* for each track. For anthologies where the Album Artist is credited as part of another group, e.g. for Cream tracks on an Eric Clapton anthology, I use *Track \[As Group\]*. For a track where the main Album Artist doesn't receive a credit, e.g. the first track of the Slim Shady LP credited to Jeff Bass, I just set the track name to *Track \[Guest\]* while still setting the artist to the album artist. N.b. I use square brackets to indicate this is information about the track rather than part of the song title and also use this style for Mix/Live/Bonus info.
iTunes may split albums into two or more sections if some tracks from the album have different values for Artist, Album Artist, Album, No. of Discs or Part of a Compilation. Tiny differences such as trailing spaces, accented characters or variants of symbols can sometimes be quite hard to spot. The iPod is also more sensitive to case variations and may split or reorder an album that looks okay in iTunes. Normally overtyping the desired value for each shared field will complete the grouping of the album into one entity. Occasionally, however, this method seems to fail. When this happens I've found that you can force every field to update properly by adding some extra text - e.g. a trailing X, which once applied seems to complete the joining of the tracks into one album. Once this has happened the extra data can be removed and the album should remain properly grouped.
The Sort Artist, Sort Album & Sort Album Artist fields can be used to override the normal sort order. For example iTunes automatically drops leading prepositions (a/an/the) so "The Beatles" are arranged under "B" instead of "T". Occasionally different tracks from the same album can have different values in these sort fields which can also break up the grouping. Making the sort columns visible in iTunes can help with spotting & correcting such problems.
Multi-disc albums are often listed as *Album (CD1)* for CD 1, *Album (CD2)* for CD 2 etc. To display these properly using just one cover, each disc should have the correct *Disc X of Y* values set, and then the entire album should be given the single title Album. Being somewhat obsessive I also renumber the tracks sequentially, working backwards from the last track until I reach disc 1.
With classical music you also need to be wary of alternative representations of artist/composers names. The menus will work best if for each composer you standardise on just one form of their name. E.g. make a choice between Mozart, W.A. Mozart or Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and then apply it consistently. I tend also to use the Composer as the Artist & Album Artist and either discard performer details or place these into the Description field. (I’d use Comments but iTunes has a habit of writing long hex strings into it for no readily apparent reason).
tt2

Problem sorting by Artist in grid view using Itunes 8

I have a lot of albums that contain various artist and i set up the info in each with the correct artist name and "various artist" as the album artist. In itunes 8 when i use grid view and use show by artist it displays by album artist putting all the albums by "various artist" in one grid. It's correct in list and cover flow view. How can i set the grid view to display by the artist of the song and not the album. (ex. Soundtrack from the motion picture Tropic Thunder: Display "U Can't Touch This" under MC Hammer instead of Various Artist)

Actually, the grid view should be using the Album Artist tag. When the Album Artist tag was added in iTunes 7.0, the intent was to allow users to properly tag songs based on the artist and any guest artists. For instance, on Luther Vandross’ album +Give Me The Reason+ Track 6, “There’s Nothing Better Than Love” is a duet. Therefore, while the Artist tag for the rest of the tracks should be ‘Luther Vandross’, the correct tag content for Track 6 is ‘Luther Vandross duet with Greory Hines’. Without having ‘Luther Vandross’ in all the Album Artist tags for all 9 album tracks, iTunes would split the album as if there are two albums of the same name by different artists.
The other situation are producer-driven albums like Quincy Jones’ +The Dude+ or +Back On The Block+ . These are not compilations, as you described, because the songs were produced for the albums and Quincy Jones, although not a performer on any of the tracks, is the album artist. The exception is soundtracks that are compilations of songs typically produced for a given film. Like the situation you describe, each track has a different artist, so by having ‘Quincy Jones’ in the Album Artist tag for each track, iTunes maintains the integrity of the album and keeps the tracks properly grouped.
(Now if Apple would only acknowledge and fix the persistent bug that does not carry these grouping and sorting features over to the user’s music folder when they have enabled “Keep iTunes Music folder organized” in iTunes’ preferences.)
The situation you are specifically referencing is that of tagging compilations—albums that consist of tracks by various artists where there is no actual album artist—but you have used the Album Artist tag effectively forcing iTunes to see them as single artist albums. I also tag compilations—e.g., Various Artists (Hip Hop), Various Artists (Jazz), Various Artists (R&B), Various Artists (Soundtrack), etc.—, so I understand what you have done. Unfortunately, the fix for forcing the grid view to recognize individual artists in compilations may require you to clear out the Album Artist tag on all of your compilation album tracks forcing iTunes to revert to the Artist tag in place of the Album Artist tag.
What I would suggest is clearing the Album Artist tag of just one compilation and seeing what happens. If the album appears under “Unknown Artist”, or some other generic listing, in the grid view then iTunes only recognizes the Album Artist tag and I am at a loss as to what you could do. If it works as you hope, then you can go ahead an clear out the Album Artist field on the rest of your compilation albums.
The downside of clearing the Album Artist field is that iTunes will revert to its pre-version 7 habits and break up the albums; that is, a compilation with 12 tracks by 12 different artists will appear in the various views as 12 different albums albeit with the same name and cover art. To keep the tracks properly grouped in other views, you will need to mark all of the tracks from the compilation albums as “Part of a compilation” in the info dialog.

Songs out of order and split into several "albums". Only in Grid view upon clicking on album.

Ok this is getting ridiculous! Until two days ago, all was well in my itunes universe. Not so anymore. All tracks on ALL albums are all jumbled, but only when I use Grid view. List view, OK, as are all the others. All the sorting info seems to check out and nothing seems amiss. When I have 10 songs shy of 7000, going album-by-album through the whole library doesn't quite seem viable as an option. Could there be a corrupted plist or preference file somewhere I could trash? I downloaded the latest version, then spent 5 hours restoring Itunes from my last backup and that was before the problem occurred. What gives? I've tried everything I've been able to find on the internet so far and nothing has worked. I've yet to attempt a reinstall as I'm afraid this bother is hiding somewhere in a file that wouldn't be touched by a reinstall. And I'm not willing to live with it as this is my preferred way of interacting with itunes. I have better things to do with my day off than scour the web for a solution that never should have happened in the first place. ANY help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time in advance.

Nevermind, somehow it's magically back in order.

Sorting Albums in Grid View

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