Sorting of images within a stack

When working with stacks some strange things happen:
- When trying to duplicate one image out of the stack into an album the whole stack is moved to the album. When I than delete this stack in the album the order of the images of the same stack in my projects is changed.
- When rejecting images within a stack my rejected images are not automatically moved to the rejected images folder. Instead these images stay in the stack even so they are marked as rejected.
- When sorting images within a stack by using different ratings and than trying to limit the image view by showing for instance only images with 3 stars or more nothing happens. Also showing rejected images only does not work within a stack. Instead showing images by rating is applied to the whole project and not only the stack
Do I do something wrong or is this a known apperture bug?
MBP Mac OS X (10.4.9)

David, your understanding (use) of stacks is causing a conflict. The whole idea is basically to group a series of similar images and choose the best one of that series, called the Pick. Then, within that series you can rank those images in an order of Pick to next best, and so on. You can view stacks open or closed - when closed, the Pick is the one on top.
Here's some info from the Help Menu that will help answer your questions:
Note: When you place a stack in a book album or web gallery or web journal album, Aperture displays the stack pick. If you drag a stacked image that is not the stack pick into the book or web gallery or web journal album, Aperture reminds you to select the stack pick. If you don’t want to place the pick in the album, but want to use a different version from within the stack, select the version you want and then make it the album pick by choosing Stacks > Set Album Pick.
Dragging Stacks
You can drag an entire stack to a new location, and you can drag specific images within a stack to a new location. When a stack is closed, dragging the stack moves the entire stack. When a stack is open, you can drag individual versions to new locations in the Browser. You can also drag images into a stack. If you drag a stacked image into a different project, however, the entire stack moves to the new location.
If you still want to be able to use a stacked image as you have stated, then take that image out of the stack, split the stack, or create a version of the image and remove it from the stack.
Take a quick refresher through the help menu - it will give you some further details and ideas so you can accomplish exactly what you need to do.
Hope that helps!!

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I know of no way to automatically stack by rating. You could create Smart Albums with only certain ratings included. I know that's not exactly what you wanted to do, but it would accomplish a segregation of your photos by rating.
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Using the context menu to re-order a bunch of images is impractical.
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I don't believe you are doing anything wrong. It appears the only thing you can do by mouse to a expanded stack, besides close it to the stack, is click the white box with the, i.e. [4 of 10] to make that image the top image.
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I have been messing with Aperature for days and am really dis-enchanted. I have gone through and organized over 700 images in separate categories only to find #1 - when I try to upload the images in a Web Gallery or Web Journal the images cannot be uploaded from a Stack. #2 - if I unstack them first they all go back to the order of when they are uploaded. Also when using the sorting button - it is supposed to put them in order first to last or last to first...depending on which way the button is selected - This does NOT work everytime. Sometimes when you click on the button it does nothing to the order of a group.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS. There must be a way to organize your images in stacks and then upload in that same order - hello apple - are you listening?

hi.
"this is rediculous" — not quite. the problem may be your understanding of stacks. they're not groups. they're compilations of similar/near-identical photos, usually shot in rapid fire. the idea is that when you shoot several near-identical photos, you can easily 'group' them, sort them in terms of quality and then choose the best one (the 'Stack Pick') to represent the stack wherever it might be used.
for example, when I'm photographing a bird, I don't normally get a second chance to photograph the same bird in the same situation or pose. the depth of field is extremely short and focus can be difficult. camera shake may also affect my images. therefore, I typically take 8 or more photos of the same bird in the same place in less than 10 to 15 seconds (if the bird is kind enough to stay that long; they normally stick in one place for only 1 or 2 seconds). I will typically only need one of these, so I stack the images and choose the best one; i.e., the stack's Pick. I will rarely if ever have to look at the other photos in the stack again.
if you want to group images from an association point of view, don't use stacks. use albums. albums created within a project will allow you to do exactly what you hope to do. sorting and uploading multiple images from the same group will work. you can even sort manually.
"Also when using the sorting button - it is supposed to put them in order first to last or last to first...depending on which way the button is selected - This does NOT work everytime"
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Just to expand on Frank's answer: that's how Aperture works. Stacks travel together. You will see the same behavior regarding filtering in the Album that you see in the Project. (Album is a container. As with a Project, you can filter the Album container to show only items that meet your filter criteria, but the contents of the container don't change by being filtered.)
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Added the following paragraph:
So you could have a Project with Stacks of bracketed exposures (an excellent use of Stacks), you could make the best of these the Pick, and then you could make an Album showing, say, the second best ones by putting them in an Album and designating the second-best Images as the Album Pick of each Stack.
You should have no trouble creating an Album of your selected Images (in this case, you are selecting by "is flagged"). With Stacks collapsed, you should see what you seem to want, which is a group of the Images you selected to be in the Album.
denke wrote:
I want to make an album inside the project showing only the photos I uploaded, but I have not found how to do this.
That the rest of the Images in the Stack are there shouldn't be a concern. Why is it?
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