Sorting photos inside events

Still wondering whether it is possible to sort photo's within events (manually). The I Photo Help says the following...
**Sort photos (regardless of Event): Select Photos in the Source list, choose View and make sure Event Titles is unchecked, and then choose View > Sort Photos.
...But these instructions don't work.
it is clearly not possible to click on "Event>Title" since it is greyed out, so you can't get into an event after you have selected Photos in the Source List (which I assume means Library here).

The Help file is not correct - you can not sort photos manually in events
You can manually sort photos in Photo view move but not in events
You can sort photos in albums
Larry Nebel

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Sorting photos within an event

I'm trying to find a way to rearrange my photos within an event. According to the instructions in help:
Sort photos within Events (but not the Events themselves): Select Photos in the Source list, choose View > Event Titles, and then choose View > Sort Photos.
Trouble is, when I try to choose Event titles, it is grayed out. If I go to the event and then select view>sort photos, manually is grayed out and by date and desending are checked.
Anyone have a suggestion.

Did you read the answer?
Events are a very limited form of organising. They are sorted on date and time only. If you want more flexibility then you need to use Albums, where there a virtually no limitations.
That is the answer! You can not sort photos within events.
LN
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TS2549 iphoto 11 (9.2.3), cannot sort iphoto in events. Text changes to numbers?

I use 10.6.8 MacBook mid 2007 iphoto 11 (9.2.3),
Cannot sort iphoto in event, when almost finished it changes to numbers.
I have done it for three times.
It does not work.
Faces will not show up correctly either, but that is not so important.
Please help

Please explain
Cannot sort iphoto in event, when almost finished it changes to numbers.
How are you "sorting photos in events"?
Typically you use albums for organization - like sorting
LN

Photo's not showing up inside Events

When importing photos from my camera memory card, everything goes smoothly. I choose the new event I want to create and the photos import correctly. Although, when I go to the event in the event screen and "double-click" on the event, no photos show up. On the main event screen it shows that there are photos inside the event. I can play a slide show and everything. But when i double click the event to view the photos individually...no photos.
I do have another account on this computer and everything works fine there.

I choose the new event I want to create and the photos import correctly.
This is confusing since you can not import into an existing event - you import and new events are created according to the way your preferences are set
And photos and events are simply different views of the same photos in the same library so they can not be present in one and not the other - maybe you think they are in an specific event but they are in a newly created event and your sort (view menu ==> sort events) is set so you are not noticing them
LN

Sort photos in an event manually

Why would the sort manually option be grayed out, not able to choose?
I went into event click view, click sort photos but the manually option is not available.
Is there a way to change this?
Thanks

Because manual sorting of events or photos within an event is not a feature of iPhoto '09 - and no there is now way to turn it on
albums can be manually sorted - events are (by default) in time/date order
LM

How to sort photo events by date and avoid having duplicated photos on iPhone 6+

How to sort photo events bby date and avoid having duplicated photos. Before the sorting by date worked perfectly by specifying "sort events by date ascending" in iPhoto from my Mac. Now the sorting from iPhoto has no more effect on the iPhones. And photos are often duplicated when synchronisin. Before these problems didn't happen. How to do?

You can not -- neither automatically or manually - you should never be in the masters folder and there is never a need to be - iPhoto is a SQLite database and it's database structure is determined by it (and changes from time to time) - use the supported access methods (direct access to the photo files is not supported and never has been) - either using iPhoto or using the media browser in the lower left hand corner of every open/attach/iupload window
It is CRITICAL that you NEVER make any changes of any sort to the structure or content of the iPhoto library using the finder or any program other than iPhoto
LN

How can I sort photos within an event? When I follow the Help instructions, I can sort manually in Photo format, but when I return to Event format, the original order is restored.

How can I sort photos within an event? When I follow the Help instructions, I can sort manually in Photo format, but when I return to Event format, the original order is restored.

Events are organisation for those who can't really be bothered. They are automatic - based entirely on Date and Time the camera records the photos as taken.
You can move photos between Events, you can Merge Events, you can Rename them and sort them in various ways except one: You cannot manually sort in an Event as Events are all automated.
If you want to manually sort in an Event then you've outgrown Events as an organising tool. Now it's time to look at albums (Where you can manually sort) which are much more flexible than Events as an organising tool.

Photo sort in an event. Why, once in an event, view, sort, by title, is the event not saved that way.

Hi,
Have driven myself bonkers trying to sort this out. I'm scanning old pix, their creation date will be the date they are scanned. I put them into an event and needless to say they are all out of order. No probs, once in the event you are given the option to sort by date, title etc. So having put them in already numbered I use the sort by title. It works until you leave iphoto, when you return they are out of order, it seems to default to Date. So, I use the batch adjust to adjust date/time and it works but only seems to work if the whole of the event is done this way.
We recently celebrated our 60th B'day, pix taken on 4 different cameras, one with an incorrect date time setting have proved very difficult to sort. Despite altering the date time from the poorly set camera to achieve correct time order it will not get into order. Do you have to change every pix time in an event to get proper results? We like the way events are shown (pic) rather than the list with Albums. Also our kids bought us an Apple TV which we really like and for us ol' Duffers the pix presentation of the events is for us far more pleasing. I've read several similar threads here and it would appear I'm barking up the wrong tree as, if I've read it correctly events are always going to default to Date. Any help much appreciated.... thanks Victa

In iPhoto '11 you set the event sort under the event meno ==> sort events. Unless you have a problem it will stay thay way until you change it either using the sort events command or changing it to manual by manually moving an event (which I have accidentally done from time to time requiring me to reset my desired sort)
Your question 2 is not clear. As noted events are sorted by the oldest photo in the event
You next comment makes no sense at all
As to telling Apple how to implement their software, this is certainly not the place to do that. This is strictly a user to user forum and Apple is not here. Frankly as a consumer you need to pick products you like and use them. Do you try to tell Sony what they should do with their TVs? GM what to do with cars? Etc. if you like the product use it. Millions do and as a result of their decisions Apple is the largest company ever. If you don't like the product then don't use it. If you really are so much smarter than Apple then start your own company and put them out if business with your brilliant products
LN

IPhoto: How can I sort photos within an event? I can't figure out how to activate the Manual Sort.

iPhoto: How can I sort photos within an event. I can't figure out how to activate the Manual Sort button.

Only albums can be sorted manually. Events can only be sorted automatically according to one of the predefined settings "Date, Keywords, Title, Rating".
If you need a manual sort order, selectaall photos in the event and create an album: File > New Album

Sorting photos manually in events

I have all my events sorted 'manually' and want to have my photos in each event set the same way, so I can change the order of them instead of sticking with the order iPhoto puts them in. However when I am in an event and try to sort photos 'manually' instead of 'by date', it wont let me do this (the manually option is not highlighted like the 'by date, by keyword, by title' etc are). I have tried resetting all my events to 'by date' but that made no difference. Is there a way to sort my photos in each events 'manually' or do i just have to leave them in the order iphoto chooses?

Manual sorting of photos within event is not available - and the "order iPhoto choose" is the order you took the photos in - it is data and time order
For other sorting use albums
LN

How do I sort photos the way I want them to appear within an Event? Sort Manually is always grayed out. SAR

Keep trying but sort manually stays grayed out. All I want to do is sort photos within one event the way I want them to appear.

It's like iTunes:
You can view an music album on iTunes and there are all the tracks. The hit single, the annoying filler that they stuck on, all there.
Or you can create a Playlist of just the singles, or tracks from various albums that work together well, or just your favourite tracks from different artists and so on.
In iPhoto: the Event has all the photos taken at that time. So, all 812 photos you took at the Wedding. All there.
An Album allows you to just use the 50 best ones, and possibly group them with 12 from the Rehearsal and five others from the day after. Just the best shots. Or bunch all the photos of the groom from birth to today, or all the photos of the bride and her dog. Or whatever. Really, the limit is your imagination.
Like Playlists in iTunes, images in an iPhoto album are simply referenced from the Library. So a photo can be in any number of albums and use no extra disk space.
Then, once you couple your imagination with metadata...
I use Events simply as big buckets of Photos: Spring 08, July - Nov 06 are typical Events in my Library. I use keywords and Smart Albums extensively. I title the pics broadly.
I keyword on a
Who
What
Where basis (The When is in the photos's Exif metadata). I also rate the pics on a 1 - 5 star basis.
Using this system I can find pretty much find any pic in my 50k library in a couple of seconds.
So, for example, I have a batch of pics titled 'Seattle 08' and a typical keywording might include: John, Anne, Landscape, mountain, trees, snow. With a rating included it's so very easy to find the best pics we took at Mount Rainier.
File -> New Smart Album
set it to 'All"
title contains Seattle
keyword is mountain
keyword is snow
rating is 5 stars
Or, want a chronological album of John from birth to today?
New Smart Album
Keyword is John
Set the View options to Sort By Date Ascending
Want only the best pics?
add Rating is greater than 4 stars
The best thing about this system is that it's dynamic. If I add 50 more pics of John to the Library tomorrow, as I keyword and rate them they are added to the Smart Album.
In the end, organisation is about finding the pics. The point is to make locating that pic or batch of pics findable fast. This system works for me.

"View- Sort Photos- By Title" produces WRONG sorting order!

Hello,
I have a set of pictures named Scan 1.jpg, Scan 2.jpg, Scan 3.jpg, etc... up to Scan 102.jpg
They all belong to the same "Event" in iPhoto.
When I am inside that Event, I need them to be sorted by their name (Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, etc).
So I choose the option: View->Sort Photos->By Title
However, that shows pictures in the wrong order, as follows: Scan 1, Scan 10, Scan 100, Scan 101, Scan 102, Scan 11, Scan 12, Scan 13, etc, Scan 19, Scan 2, Scan 20, Scan 21, Scan 21, etc... The logic is clear but it is wrong!
Finder recognizes the correct order of files, named in such way, so why doesn't iPhoto?!
Please suggest if you have any solutions OTHER than renaming the original files to Scan 001, Scan 002, etc. I assume that would work, but I really would hate to spend time on renaming. There must be an easier way. I am surprised that iPhoto makes this mistake in the first place - I remember coming across this issue during Windows Explorer times. When I switched to Mac it was a pleasant surprise that Finder understands in such situations that the order should be 1, 2 3, 4, 5 etc and not 1, 10, 100, 11, 110, 111, 12, etc. What a disappointment to bump into that bug in iPhoto! I hope there is a solution. Please advise!
Thanks everyone in advance.

That's been an issue with several apps for a while. You can batch rename the titles in iPhoto using the Photos ➙ Batch Change ➙ Title to Text menu option with the check box checked to add a sequential number to each photo.
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You can always revert back to the original file name using the same menu option.
OT

How can I view my photos in "Events" like in iPhoto? How can I create events? I have 55,000 photos and 1700 events so the only way I can possibly manage my photos is using events that are one slide in size.

I have 55,000 images organized into about 1700 events. The only reasonable way to view my library is using events in iPhoto where each event has one image That still leaves 1700 images to sort through but that is a lot easier than 55,000 images. In the side bar is a folder with "iPhoto Events" but those views still show all of the slides. How can I create events and view my photos as events as in iPhoto? Events are critical for large libraries and has been my primary way to sort images.
Thanks!

I had a problem a couple of months ago when iPhotos suddenly rearranged the order of my Events (Why won't iPhoto let me arrange my photos?) . I was told "Use albums not events - events are not a good way to organize - albums and folder are designed for organisation and are very flexible".
Haha! I should have paid attention and read between the lines! My iPhotos were highly organised groupings - not according to date but the way I wanted them - and it was so easy to do! I see now that if I had them all in albums, as per the Apple Apologist suggestion, I wouldn't have this unholy mess I have been left with just to make iPhone & iCloud users happy. I am now going through Photos and making Albums (of what used to be in my Events) ... maybe I'll get this finished before they do another non user friendly update!

In iPhoto if I select View, then Sort Photos by title, how do I stop it reverting to sorting by date when I close iPhoto and re-open it later?

In iPhoto if I select View, then Sort Photos by title, how do I stop it reverting to sorting by date when I close iPhoto and re-open it later?

In what mode, Events, Photos or in an Album, are you when you select View ➙ Sort ➙ By Title?
As a first fix attempt try the following:
1 - delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your
User/Home/Library/ Preferences folder.
2 - delete iPhoto's cache file, Cache.db, that is located in your
User/Home/Library/Caches/com.apple.iPhoto folder (Snow Leopard and Earlier).
or with Mt. Lion from the User/Library/Containers/com.apple.iPhoto/
Data/Library/Caches/com.apple.iPhoto folder
3 - launch iPhoto and try again.
NOTE 1: If you're moved your library from its default location in your Home/Pictures folder you will have to point iPhoto to its new location when you next open iPhoto by holding down the Option key when launching iPhoto. You'll also have to reset the iPhoto's various preferences.
NOTE 2: In Lion and Mountain Lion the Library folder is now invisible. To make it permanently visible enter the following in the Terminal application window: chflags nohidden ~/Library and hit the Enter button - 10.7: Un-hide the User Library folder.
OT

Can I over-ride the default setting in Organizer to allow sorting photos by filename ?

I am converting slides from the 1970's and 80's to digital files and using PSE 8 to Organize them but it is important to me that they stay in the order of the file name I give them and NOT "Date: newest first or last" because it would seem that PSE, in the absence of metafile information, uses the date and time I uploaded the file to the Organizer as the "Date:". ACDSee has a much more sensible arrangement in giving me full control of how my photos are sorted. I am being driven to using ACDSee as the organizer and PSE as the photo editor, a not very convenient arrangement. So my question is, "Can I over-ride the default setting in Organizer to allow sorting photos by filename ?"

The type of file system that you're trying to set up, is actually done better by creating you own file heirarchy in Windows, and then viewing by import batch. For example; you might create a top level folder "My Slide Scans", then perhaps, "My son John". So, the scans of john all go in the same folder, you import the folder in one batch, and you're where you want to be.
That said, PSE will fight you at every turn to do this, since with the scanner hooked up with PSE, PSE is going to want to store your photos in "scanned photos" and import them as you scan them.
I woud suggest this. After the scan and import, use PSE to move the photos to their final destination folder, say " Hawaii 1994", and create a tag of the same name". Then when you're done scanning photos of this event, use the tag to view all the scans at once. Then, delete all the photos from the organizer. (Yeah, sounds radical I know). Take heart! All you've gotta do then is to reimport the whole folder. All the same name photos will be in one import batch. And with all the photos of any given topic in one folder, you'll be able to also use Windows Explorer in any number of modes to view the photos outside PSE.
Keep in mind you can rename batchs of photos by selecting them, or by import batch or even tag, then "Ctrl. > Shift > N" will bring up the name change dialog box.
This technique is quite contensious, but, it makes a whole lot more sense than storing all your photos in the "My Photos" folder on the "C:/" drive where any viral or malware hiccup might cause the necessity of a reformat, which could cause the loss of years of work.
If a name search is a priority, that would be "Ctrl ."Shift" > "K" then type in whatever your heart desires.
Caution: Before attempting a delete/ reimport manuver, Alway, always, write the tag and file info to the photo. "File" >"Write Tag and Properties Info to File".
I always am quite adamantine about suggesting that you do NOT use the same physical HDD that contains Windows to store your photos, that's just asking for trouble. HDDs are quite cheap nowadays, and they're worth every penny in piece of mind. Plus to use a storage ("Volume") drive, you have to create your own file heirarchy anyway, so that leads right back to the beginning of this discussion.

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