Sorting Some Myths & Facts About Premiere Elements 9

Steve Grisetti,
Part 1 Photoshop Elements Premiere Elements Slide Show Integration
If you recall, we went down the following Photoshop Elements Premiere Elements integration road when Premiere Elements 8.0 was released. And, I fear we need to go down that road again.
In spite of the fact (and for whatever reason Adobe persists in saying what it does in its Read Me), you do not have to have Photoshop Elements 9 installed with Premiere Elements 9 in order to use the Photoshop Elements Slide Show Editor Output Option "Edit With Premiere Elements", to get a seamless transfer from Photoshop Elements to Premiere Elements, and to have the Premiere Elements Break Apart command available.
The doable combos for this are:
Photoshop Elements 6.0/Premiere Elements 9.0
Photoshop Elements 7.0/Premiere Elements 9.0
Photoshop Elements 8.0/Premiere Elements 9.0
Photoshop Elements 9.0/Premiere Elements 9.0
as was the case (shown over and over by myself and large number of others)
Photoshop Elements 6.0/Premiere Elements 8.0
Photoshop Elements 7.0/Premiere Elements 8.0
Photoshop Elements 8.0/Premiere Elements 8.0
Part 2. Premiere Elements 9.0 New Feature: Automatic Change of Project Preset
At another web site you are featuring a video on this subject where you drag a HD 1080i30 video into a DV Standard project and get a Mismatched Project Setting dialog for changing the project preset from DV Standard to HD1080i30. You do point out that this change is possible ONLY if it is done with the first such clip dragged to the Timeline. However, the impression is a generalization for MORE. I have found that the reverse situation DOES NOT WORK (no dialog) if you bring a DV AVI into a project set up for HD 1080i30. I have not gone through all the possible scenarios, but suspect that the feature has limited application. I make this comment now to fend off questions from users who ask why does this NOT work for me when they are repeating your demo to the last detail (they think) but using a different combo of project preset and file format.
I have not had time to organize a first look thread here, but I thought that these two points justified themselves as forerunners of what is to come.
ATR

Steve Grisetti
I would respectfully ask if you did any testing of the Automatic Change of Project Preset feature of Premiere Elements 9 beyond what you demo’d in your mini video tutorial on the matter?
Earlier in this thread I wrote the following in which I mentioned doubts about a possible limited application for this new “Automatic Change of Project Preset” feature for Premiere Elements 9. Now I am getting to wonder if there are major glitches in the reliability of this feature and if users should be depending on its recommendation blindly.
First what I wrote initially……
“Part 2. Premiere Elements 9.0 New Feature: Automatic Change of Project Preset
At another web site you are featuring a video on this subject where you drag a HD 1080i30 video into a DV Standard project and get a Mismatched Project Setting dialog for changing the project preset from DV Standard to HD1080i30. You do point out that this change is possible ONLY if it is done with the first such clip dragged to the Timeline. However, the impression is a generalization for MORE. I have found that the reverse situation DOES NOT WORK (no dialog) if you bring a DV AVI into a project set up for HD 1080i30. I have not gone through all the possible scenarios, but suspect that the feature has limited application. I make this comment now to fend off questions from users who ask why does this NOT work for me when they are repeating your demo to the last detail (they think) but using a different combo of project preset and file format.”
Second, Latest Developments
A user at another forum that I frequent posted that, after allowing the Mismatched Project Setting dialog to change the project preset for him, he could not get the Timeline video reflected in the Edit Mode Monitor although he could get the file audio.
The details were these:
Video was from a Canon SX10 IS recorded as 640 x 480 with a video codec described by gspot as Name: AVC1 Codec: H.264. The video had a .mov file extension. (The results to follow were independent of whether I changed the file extension from .mov to .avi or .mpg.) Although it was not spelled out, I believe this to be an AVCHD Lite file.
When the project preset (new project dialog) was set at NTSC DV Standard (720 x 480) and the file imported into Premiere Elements 9, the Mismatched Project Setting dialog appeared to which the user clicked YES. That YES set the project preset to NTSC/Flip/Flip Mino and Ultra 30p which is shown as 640 x 480 with Editing Mode = “Sony XDCAM EX 720p”.
When the video was dragged to the Timeline, there was no video reflected in the Edit Mode Monitor, however the audio could be heard as the Timeline content playback progressed from beginning to end. Not ever was there a red line over this Timeline content. This suggested to me that the program was recognizing this video as its new native format AVCHD. If you made a minor edit to the video to force a red line over its content, rendering the Timeline in the Edit Mode DID permit the video to display in the Edit Mode Monitor.
Until more information is available on this new feature, in this specific case, my recommendation to this user was to use the NTSC DV Standard project preset AND say NO to the Premiere Elements 9 Mismatched Project Setting dialog.  And, when the video (640 x 480) was on the Timeline, it was suggested that the user use Properties Palette/Motion Panel/Scale properties to get rid of any tiny black borders to the left and right in the Edit Mode Template.
However, the finally puzzlement to this case is that if the user continues in the program's recommended Flip project preset (without a video display in the Edit Mode Monitor) to Share, the export displays both video and audio just fine.
In case I did not mention it, going direct from the new project dialog/ NTSC Flip Flip Mino and Ultra 30p yielded the same results…no video but audio in the Edit Mode Monitor of the video on the Timeline. My evaluation of the issue was done using a Canon SX10 IS sample video downloaded from the Internet.
ATR

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    • When exporting movies over one hour to MPEG2 format, the render dialog may continue to be displayed for a period of time after the render progress bar appears to have completed. Rendering is still occurring until the render dialog boxes closes. Clicking Cancel before the render dialog box closes will interrupt this process, and your export file will not be created
    • For play back on a PSP, movies must include both audio and video. Movies exported with video only or audio only will not play back on the PSP.
    • Archival of projects with Type 1 DV-AVI files is not supported.
    • If standard definition menu templates are used when burning to Bluray, menu images s will appear of low quality
    • When attempting to burn a Bluray disc to a previously burned disc, you will see an error message indicating that the disc is incompatible, instead of an error message indicating the disc is full.
    • Movies exported in H.264 format may have a few white frames added to the end
    • Movies exported in MPEG2 format may be a few frames shorter than the original movie
    This seems to answer my question about Photoshop Elements 8/Premiere Element 8 integration regarding slideshows, but may be of more widespread interest to others for the other "known bugs" cited by Adobe.
    ATR

  • Why does playback on the timeline lag on my premiere elements 9 project?

    Whenever I playback my edit on the timeline, it starts off playing fine, but after a few seconds it starts to lag. I am using a macbook pro (2.4GHz intel core 2 duo processor, OS X V10.9.4), and was initially editing off a WD hard drive connected with a Firewire800 cable. I have shifted all my rushes and the premiere elements project file from the hard drive to my laptop, but that doesn't seem to work. Project settings and Clip settings seem to match, otherwise I wouldn't be able to open the project file anyway. I fiddled with some of the playback settings, but nothing seemed to work. I need to rush out a piece of work asap. Any ideas?

    AT Romano,
    Please see my actions taken regarding your questions below:
    One of my questions was attempting to determine if the total duration of clips on the Timeline has any effect on this random playback issue.
    Am I correct in assuming that you are saying that this Timeline playback lag can be seen even with only one 1 minute clip on the Timeline? If not,
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    The lag can also be seen with only one 1 minute clip on the timeline.
    If you start a new project with a different video source or just some jpg photos do you run into this Timeline content playback lag after rendering of that
    Timeline content?
    NO, this lag does not occur with a new project with different video source.
    Did you understand what I wrote early on about Premiere Elements 9.0/9.0.1 being a 32 bit application when run on 32 or 64 bit computer? Do you use the computer for programs other than Premiere Elements? I asked since you wrote
    Upgraded the RAM. I'm now running on 2x 8GB of RAM.
    A 32 bit system is typically characterized by maximum supported installed RAM = 4 GB and typically 3.2 to 3.0 or less of that being available. So, why the upgrade to 16 GB of installed RAM?
    I guess I didn't quite understand the 32 bit system thing. But i kinda get the idea now. In any case, my computer seems to be running faster than usual even though it didn't solve the elements 9 lagging issue.
    Just recap time....
    1. Optimize the computer with free ccleaner for Mac run through
    CCleaner - Download
    Done.
    2. Make sure that there are no pile ups of preview files, conformed audio, and conformed video files. At this time, how much
    free hard drive space at the location where the Scratch Disks are directed?
    Done. About 870GB of free HD space. This is an external hard drive.
    3. Set Playback Quality to highest instead of automatic
    Did this, but the lagging becomes worse. It freezes longer on certain frames.
    4. Make sure video card/graphics card driver is up to date according to web site of manufacturer of the card
    According to Manufacturer, graphic cards installed on MacBook Pros are already optimised by Apple during the installation.
    5. If dual monitor system, disconnect one, use only one
    I am monitoring only from my laptop screen. No external monitors.
    6. Delete the Adobe Premiere Elements Prefs file...
    Users/Libraries/Application Support/Adobe/Premiere Elements/9.0
    I cannot seem to find this file.
    7. Export the lagging Timeline content to an appropriate file saved to the computer hard drive. Then determine if the playback of the export
    exhibits any lags.
    After export, there are no lags.
    8. Do you run into the problem with and without the antivirus disabled?
    I have no antivirus installed. But i did try turning on and off the firewall. With the firewall on, the lag seemed to get worse.
    9. For troubleshooting purposes only at this time, download and install the free 30 day tryout of Premiere Elements 12
    from Adobe....If it works for you, then we can target version 9....If it does not work for you, then we can target your computer.
    There is no Premiere elements 12 available for trial download. Only premiere elements 13. Have downloaded that and copied the project file into elements 13. The lag is still there, but not as bad. But, it is still there.
    - Gold Pirate.

  • AppStore version of Premiere Elements 11 crashes when I open it.

    Bought Premiere Elements 11 Editor on the AppStore on April 29, 2013.
    It crashed everytime I opened it while it was loading.
    I deleted it and downloaded it from the Appstore a second time.
    It still crashes everytime I open it.
    It crashes while it's loading "ImporterQuickTime.bundle".
    I don't know where or what exactly that is or where I can get another one.
    I don't know how to interpret the crash report.
    There doesn't seem to be a way to contact Adobe by email and send them a copy of the crash report.
    I already have Elements 11 Editor installed since it came out and don't have any problems with it.
    I'm on a MacBook Pro (late 2011) running the latest version of Mountain Lion.
    It has a SSD - 120 GB with 80 GB available.
    I'm the only one using my Mac - I'm the Administrator.
    I've Googled this problem and there seems to be a lot of people with exactly the same problem.
    I don't understand why Adobe hasn't found a solution for this problem?
    Message was edited by: le LIBRE

    I gather you use Windows.
    I'm on a MacBook Pro.
    When I or anyone buys an app on the AppStore there is no installation disc or file.
    Apple installs the app directly in the Applications folder in Finder.
    Normally I or anyone clicks on the newly installed app and it starts up.
    I did not buy Premiere Elements 11 Editor on the Adobe site so I can not download it again from the site.
    I did install it a second time from the AppStore.
    Always the same problem — it crashes as it's loading.
    Normally when I have a problem with an app crashing I contact the developer by email.
    Most developers except for Adobe let us contact them by email.
    They always ask for a copy of the crash report.
    They read the report to find out why it's crashing and tell me how they or I can fix it.
    Adobe doesn't want it's customers to be able to contact them.
    It seems like they feel it's your or my problem.
    I did have a live chat with someone from Adobe and even let them share my screen.
    The person read the crash report but didn't tell me why the app crashed.
    The person couldn't really control my screen as I live in Europe and have a french Azerty keyboard.
    The person downloaded QuickTime Player 7 and I installed it but that didn't stop the app from crashing.
    The Adobe person just stopped the screen sharing and never contacted me after.
    The person has my email address but didn't feel it was necessary to really help me.
    The person just disappeared.
    I bought Elements 11 Editor on the Adobe site when it came out.
    I couldn't get the online purchase to work.
    I contacted Adobe with live chat and the Adobe staff couldn't get my purchase to work either.
    Finally they had me buy Elements 11 through a bulk buying Adobe store.
    It took me two days to buy the app.
    I do like Elements 11 Editor a lot and use it every day.
    I watched some videos about Premiere Elements 11 Editor and I think it'll be as good as Elements 11.
    I bought Premiere 11 on the AppStore to avoid having the problems I had before buying on the Adobe site.
    I was surprised and disappointed when it kept crashing.
    I could just contact Apple and get a refund but I'd like to have the Premiere 11 app.
    Adobe staff don't really seem to be interested in helping.
    A staff member moved my thread to the Premiere forum but didn't even try to help me.
    I Googled my problem.
    Premiere Elements 11 Editor crashes while loading "ImporterQuickTime.bundle".
    I'm not the only customer this happens too.
    I would like someone from Adobe to read my crash report and tell me why it crashes.
    I don't know how to read it as I'm just a junior Nerd.
    I'm still learning.
    So far the advice I've been offered doesn't really address my situation.
    It would be great if another Mac user could offer some help
    as they would understand about the AppStore and how it works.
    Your post refered to a few things.
    Tell me exactly what you think would fix my crashing problem.
    Don't make me guess what I should do as I'm not an expert.
    Please no links — tell me clearly what you think would fix the crashes.
    Remembering that I'm on a Mac and I bought the app on the AppStore.
    If you need more info just ask me.
    I'm an english speaking Canadian (from near Toronto)
    now living in the french speaking part of Belgium (which is in Europe).
    My Mac is entirely in english as I don't know french well enough to use it on my Mac.
    But I have a french Azerty keyboard.
    I'm not into forums but as Adobe doesn't give a very good aftersales service,
    I find myself here looking for an answer to my problem.
    I just want Premiere Elements 11 Editor to work as it should do.
    If you can help me I'd appreciate it alot.
    Ant

  • O Adobe Premiere Elements 11 é compatível com o novo sistema Yosemite?

    Estou buscando informações pois tive problemas ao atualizar para o Maveriks e tive que formatar e reinstalar o Lion, que está funcionando perfeitamente.

    Jeffh
    What do you mean that you could not find the setup file? Does that mean that you do not have the installation files or that you have the installation files but cannot find a setup.exe file in it or whatever it is called for Premiere Elements Mac installation.
    Were you actually in contact with Adobe's Adobe Chat about this matter?
    I am strictly an Elements Windows user who tries to find some common ground between Premiere Elements Windows and Mac to try to help with Premiere Elements Mac related issues.
    I am confident about the following if you wish to pursue it. If you do not have the Premiere Elements 11 Mac installation files, then you can download them from the following web and insert your purchased Premiere Elements 11 Mac serial number in it during installation. You just need to read and carry out the "Note: Very Important Instructions" to the word on that web page in order to avoid Access Denied message.
    Photoshop Elements 11 Direct Download Links: Free Trials, Premiere | ProDesignTools
    However, if your recollection is dusty and you purchased your Premiere Elements 11 as the Premiere Elements 11 Editor from the Mac App store, the above is not going to work. The Mac App Store Adobe Premiere Elements 11 Editor is not the same product as Adobe's Premiere Elements 11 Mac. Your purchased Adobe serial number will not work in those files.
    Please review and consider and then we can decide what next.
    Thanks.
    ATR

  • Is premiere elements what I want?

    Hi all,
    I've been a user of Photoshop Elements for many years, using it to download my photos and then catalog them, being able to search and group them in the organiser is great.
    I also have a camcorder but never really done much with the footage, I had tried Pinnacle software many years ago but that didn't amount to much, I have a number of tapes I've created (Sony PC100E DV camcorder) and ideally would like to get my tapes copied to a hard drive so I can make sure I have back ups (some of my older Hi8 tapes I now have trouble playing so want to capture my DV tapes as a start). Having read about Premiere Elements I've downloaded the trial version, thinking I could use this for my video in the same way as I use Photoshop Elements to download my photos, but it doesn't seem that straight forward. From what I can see I would have to capure the tapes using the get media button but do it as part of a project. So my question is should I be looking at Premiere Elements to capture my footage for back up purposes and if this is the case then does it capture the tape in full, not just a low quality version? I realise the software gives the ability to edit and manipulate fooage but at the moment this is secondary to just getting backups.
    Thanks for any comments.
    Keith

    Premiere Elements will not only capture your miniDV video at full quality -- it pretty much streams the data as is from the tape. So the quality of the video is identical to the original.
    As for analog and Hi8, tape, if you use a DV bridge (as we recommend in our FAQs http://forums.adobe.com/thread/431853?tstart=0 ) or a Digital8 camcorder to digitize your video, as DV-AVIs, it will be about as close to the original as is possible. So you're okay there too.
    As for using the program, why not start with my free 8-part Basic Training tutorial series at Premiere Elements support site Muvipix.com? They should help you see if this is the program for you.
    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/537685?tstart=0
    Then, if you really want to learn the program inside and out, check out my books.
    http://Muvipix.com/pe9.php
    They'll answer almost any question you might have in easy step-by-step instruction. And, of course, you've got the author (me) right here and on Muvipix.com several times a day to help you with what the books don't make clear!

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    For those who can read french:
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    Hi
    Looks better than iMovie to me.
    And costs ?
    My experiences with Premiere - Was an unstable and shaky (bombing and locking up) road.
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