SOS! Sequence settings from After Effects to FCP

Hi All!
I have edited a short film in FCP from Digi beta rushes. I did the post production and finalization in AE and now I need to get the sequence back to FCP so I can export it to a digi beta as a master copy. Which is the best way to do this loosing the least quality possible?? Which is the format? TIFF? Targa sequence? HELP My deadline is tomorrow PM.
Cheers.

10 bit uncompressed, using the same setup you started with. I.e., AJA or Blackmagic.
Jerry

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