Sound Booth vs Audition revisted

As tired and untimely as another Sound Booth vs Audition thread might be, I wanted to get the opinion of long time users on Sound Booth now that it has been in service a good while.
I find Sound Booth to be very slow in processing files. Much slower than Audition or Sound Forge.
Also I think that SB lacks finite controls in its audio filters.
I've tried using SB when working on a CS3 system but usually end up frustrated then use Sound Forge or Audition.
One benefit of Sound Booth's integration is it has taught me to rely more on Premiere Audio filters, experimenting and mastering them to a greater degree.
If anyone cares to comment on how they have employed Sound Booth, how they grade the overall processing speed, and the overall SB interface I would be interested in reading.
stephen gerard
* I've posted in the premiere forum to reach long time adobe suite users with both Sound Booth and Audition experience.

I more or less agree with Harm...I remember when we all initially found out about Soundbooth replacing Audition in the suite, we were cautioned to make judgement only after giving Soundbooth a try. We were told about all these fantastic simple little options, speed, and functionality like the scores and such.
Well, none of it was true, and of course, the Adobe Resource Central has been nothing short of disappointing as well. It seems to be down an awful lot, and there's just not any worthwhile material there compared to what Audition previously offered on the installation disc.
In other words....it absolutely feels like Adobe became the ones who abandoned it without giving it much of a try. I tried Soundbooth, and found it severely lacking in the fine-tuning functions that I used on absolutely every production. If I were just producing web A/V only, and I wanted quick 'n dirty audio, it might work. But even my web projects demand a sort of finessing that Soundbooth cannot provide.
My $.02

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Thanks for responding, but the thread you mentioned seems to be about a mirror-image problem: waveform not appearing in Sound Booth. In my case, SB is working fine and displaying the waveform properly, which is why I posted my question in this forum, instead.
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BTW, I used to use Audition, but it had too many hardware issues and wouldn't run under 64-bit Windows. Have you tried it under Vista x64, or with dynamic links to PPro or After Effects? It seems that PPro, AE and Flash have been designed to work with SB rather than Audition.

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Let me see if I can clear this up one item at a time for you:
1. You CLEARLY stated: "I spent multiple hours editing a sound file, diligently saving periodically".
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2. You stated CLEARLY "only to have SB crash near the end & ask if I want to save my work before it must shut down."
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