Sound - No microphone gain ?

MSI P35 Neo 2 FS
Intel E8400 processor
2 x 1 Gig Corsair Ram
8800 GT Graphics card
550 watt Trust PSU
Window Xp Home Edition.
Realtek ALC 888/888T audio.
When I try and connect to SKYPE the recipient informs me that my microphone volume is
too low, as he was unable to hear properly.
I went to the Realtek control panel and I was unable to find a "gain" control for the mic.
Does any one know if there is such a control on the above mentioned panel?
I then went into Windows and found that the microphone control was disabled and I
could not use.
I then checked my connections on my headphone & mic. they were OK. I re installed
the Realtek drivers, and still the same problem.
I finally went to the SKYPE audio section and was able to adjust the microphone
setting from their. Has any one else had a similar problem?

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well sure where there should be a gain option in microsoft sound options not realteks.
There is one, you just have to configure the Microsoft Panel properly, in order to access that option.
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But it would seem under xp ( maybe not vista) this option is missing or unavailable.
It is neither missing nor is it unavailable.  It is just in a place were you won't expect it intuitively.
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Realtek & msi need to sort this out.
Not quite right. MSI (or ASUS, ABIT, ASROCK, GIGABYTE, DELL etc.) do not have anything to do with the Realtek Drivers themselves, the Realtek HD Audio Manager Interface or the Functionality of the whole HD Audio Driver Packet.  Realtek (and Realtek only) creates and distributes these standard drivers.  So if you want to complain (I did that myself a couple of times already), do that it here:
http://www.realtek.com.tw/contact/
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didnt allow for the gain option to show properlly in the microsoft sound options.
As I said before, you just have to configure the Windows Audio Panel properly.  My Windows XP Version is German but I hope you will figure it out anyway.
Open the Panel and access properties:
Now select the Audio Jack you want to configure:
Enable "Advanced Options" which will give you an additional Button for "Advanced" Options under the corresponding audio jacks ("Front Green In" in my example):
Click on the box to get access to advanced options (including microphone gain/boost):
DONE.

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    Last edited by goulo (2012-01-13 18:30:13)

    Hello,
    I don't have your soundcard but maybe the following information is helpful, though:
    Install the linux-docs package, then you have some information about your soundcard drivers in "/usr/src/linux-*/Documentation/sound/alsa/". Exspecially "HD-Audio.txt" and "HD-Audio-Models.txt" might be important. In the Models file it is stated that just the "asus-mode*" are legitimate model parameters for your soundcard and in the HD-Autio.txt file it is more or less said that trial and error the modules is the way to go to find the "correct module". Further there is a section
    Capture Problems
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The capture problems are often because of missing setups of mixers.
    Thus, before submitting a bug report, make sure that you set up the
    mixer correctly.  For example, both "Capture Volume" and "Capture
    Switch" have to be set properly in addition to the right "Capture
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    software, especially for the inputs without the hardware volume
    control such as digital microphones.  Unless really needed, this
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    and the recorded sound contains a certain DC-offset.  This is no bug
    of the driver.
    So check your mixer,  here and here are nice tutorials.
    Greetings
    matse
    Last edited by matse (2012-01-12 16:30:09)

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