Soundtrack Pro Work Flow

Can anybody share their work flow. I'm doing titles in LiveType, editing in FCP, scoring in Logic and final mix in Soundtrack Pro. I am having a difficult time finding a natural flow. Any advice would be appreciated. If there is already a thread on this, please guide me in the right direction. Thx.

Zsion wrote:
That's what I was thinking. How can I get the video to play on my external monitor via Logic?
Logic uses quicktime to play the video so whatever quicktime can do, logic can do. If the movie is DV format for eg you can play it out via firewire. There's a setting in logic to to "play via firewire" (or something). I think its in the song settings under the video section. I haven't got Logic handy to check. If you do a quick search in the manual or help guide it'll be in there.
If you have decent video I/O interface you can be watching full HD 1080p uncompressed movies on a plasma screen with logic if you want. Obviously that will put a huge strain on your computer though and not really advisable! As a rough 'n' ready solution I once used a cheap camcorder connected to a tv (analogue) with a firewire cable connected to my computer. Logic played my dv movie to the tv ok but I noted the picture was delayed a few frames. Its worth checking the sync and for this reason its always useful to have "burned in timecode" on the picture. You can adjust picture sync in Logic via a slider (song settings again I think). Its worth double checking everything is as it should be before you start work proper. Once its all set up right I find things work very well.
You should not have any issues with sync when the movie is on your computer monitor and that is a significant advantage. I've seen folk use a second computer monitor for their movie for this reason.

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Sean A wrote:
By doing this, will it still create all of those extra files? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Is it just from the blade tool being used?
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Just checked it out thanks, but this wont help me on this one. Where I may have put real time effects on like eq or compression I then need to render to action, after that I could flatten audio. But what is happening is that when I have put real time effects on then go to render to action (so them effects now become part of the action list) once its done the render to action it just shuts it self straight away, before I even get a chance to save it. But thanks for the guess, actually showed me something I didn't know anyway, so learnt something!! Thanks.
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Look in the Utilities folder for Apple Loops Utility. The manual is in under the Help menu of that app.
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karlitofingers wrote:
My STP seems to be working ok in Mountain lion yeah, although I've not actually used it properly yet, but it stays open at least. I think you're right about compressor aswell.
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