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Anybody else using this combo?
Any tips on how to integrate these two, besides simply setting ST as the external audio editor? Am I missing any clever ways to use them both on the same project?
Thanks!
dc

Okay, I should back up a bit.....I only have QT7 (full) purchased for one machine so far....for testing purposes. I have been testing this on a production G5 (Tiger) with a Decklink Extreme card. For production purposes, we normally capture with the Decklink. For my tests however, I have been capturing with QT7, using the DL inputs, Decklink 8-bit uncompressed codec. I then try to drag that video onto the FCP v5.0 timeline. No go.
The Xserve does not have a DL card in it. It uses the Canopus SDI playback/capture FW unit. The Xserve would have to use the DV codec for the Canopus
Either way, I would think as long as I'm using either a Canopus DV codec, or the Blackmagic 8-bit codec, it should be importable into FCP.
All the news editors, which this video would ultimatly be edited on, are equipped with the DL-SP cards, and FCP v4.5 using DV capture codec. What am I missing here
Thanks for all replies so far.
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