Source Determination for contracts via ME25

Hi All,
We are using ME25 to create PO's. During source determination, a
contract that is valid on the delivery date but not on the current date
is not suggested as a possible source of supply though it has been
maintained in the source list.
We know that this is programmed this way.Check is always carried on the
basis of current date. Though the delivery date falls within the
contract validity date, the system does not suggest the contract as a
source since the validity of that contract has not yet started or it is
not matching with the current date.
But we want the system to suggest the contracts as a source of supply,
though the validity of the contract has not yet started. we want the
system to suggest the contracts which are not valid on current date(but
valid on a particular delivery date) also.
SAP notes 44368 and 427864 suggest that this can be achieved.The note
427864 also tells that "selection with a date other than the current
date could lead to problems (for example in case of MRP runs).With the
corrections of Note 44368 you can solve the problem".
It also says as below:
"The attached correction instruction solves the problem described in
this note. However, these corrections might lead to other problems.
Therefore these corrections are not implemented in the standard system."
It says it might lead to other problems also. But it didn't mention the
exact problems.It would be great if you can list out the MRP run and
other problems and suggest us.
We want this functionality. One more note 116464 is also related to
this. Suggest us which are the notes to be applied. We are currently
using SAP 4.7 Version.
Thanks in advance.
Warm regards,
Shankar Goud.

Hi,
I am not sure that there will be any problems by changing this if you do it the way that the note indicates. I would suggest that SAP are quite right to effectively say "We have designed our system to use the current date, if you want to use anything else then you MAY have problems" (because effectively this is what they are saying).
It is a heavily integrated system and changes like this can cause unforeseen problems, but if you are going to test it thoroughly then it SHOULD be OK.
I would agree with SAP in that it is far better to NOT make this change, but if you really need to do this as part of your business process then you may have no other choice.
Have you thought of bringing the date of the contracts forward to the current date when they are created and controlling their use by setting the source list dates to the dates you want them to be used? This may not work and it too is a scary change but it might be worth having a play with it in your sandbox system (also set the source list as mandatory on the material master if you want to stop manual POs from being allocated too early).
So I guess I am saying go ahead if you have to but beware the warnings (even though they may be unfounded).
Steve B

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