Source Media Time Code in Export Frame Metadata

It is possible to include source media time code in the XMP metadata for images created using the Export Frame command? When I export a frame, the metadata only contains sequence time code. I work for an aerial survey and remote sensing firm, and we use time of day time code from aerial video footage in many places in our workflow. We include still frames of key points in the video in our deliverables for clients, and the time code values we need come from the same points as those still frames, so our current workflow uses RedCine-X to export still frames and Digital PIE to extract source time code from those images. I would strongly prefer to work only in Premiere Pro and never open RedCine-X, but I can't keep the workflow all in Premiere Pro if I can't get source time code out with the images.

That's a good suggestion Jim. I did try that before I posted, and exporting from the source monitor does embed time code in the XMP, but it's not time code I recognize. It's neither the media source time code nor the sequence time code where that frame appears in the only sequence I have in my test project. For example, I just exported a frame from the source monitor at 18:43:45:15 in the source media time code. That frame appears at 00:43:23:22 in the sequence I have open, and I used match frame to open the frame in the source monitor. The resulting time code in the XMP for the exported frame is 00:44:53:06. There are no options for anything except file name, format, and output directory in the Export Frame dialog, so I don't know how to control what time code Premiere sends out from the source monitor.

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