Source system copy

hi all,
my question is
i need to make a copy of source system,i.e make a copy,then what will happen to my delta?
whether i have to initialize this delta again?
regards,
nnpr

If you have copied the BW system and also the source system at the same time, the delta points should be set there. So you don't need re-init again.
If the source system is not copied then you don't have the option except reinit delta.
Procedure: You need to do reinit without data transfer and in order to reinit, you have to delete the existing one, otherwise, it won't let you do it.
Hope it helps..

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