SPA3102 - PSTN Distinctive Ring Detection

Hi,
I have SPA3102 connected to Asterisk. I have a single PSTN line with two numbers, each with a distinctive ring pattern. Is SPA3102 capable to detect the ring pattern of an inbound PSTN call and provide this info to the SIP gateway (for example, in the Alert-Info SIP header).
Thanks!

This may not be possible as the this device I think cannot recognize the Ring pattern being to the FXO port for the two numbers.
Some features are disabled or does not work when connected to the SPA3102 compared to when connected to a regular telephone.

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Q. How can I reduce the PSTN echo on SPA3102?
A. Experiencing echoes in the PSTN line is a common problem. This is because the SPA3102 passes calls from the PSTN to LINE1 by converting it to VoIP internally then converts it back to analog. This process does not produce any echo, however, it can add about 30ms of latency to the call which later produces the echo.
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Make a test call to someone with a phone that works via the SPA's PSTN line, or call in to the PSTN line. If the remote party is hearing an echo, your phone might be loud and is experiencing feedback in the microphone. Lower the PSTN to SPA Gain until you are comfortable hearing the person on the other line. If the remote user can still hear an echo, try using a different phone plugged into the SPA. If this solves the problem, your phone might not be working properly, or there is an impedance mismatch between your phone and the SPA. Try changing the FXS Port Impedance to 600 on the Regional tab and change the FXO port impedance to 600 or global. If this does not help, change it back. The impedance will only affect what the remote party hears and will not help remove the echo you are hearing.
After lowering the echo to a tolerable level, go back to the PSTN tab and enable Echo Can Enable by selecting Yes, OK. Check if the echo has improved. If the echo is tolerable at this level, leave the adaptive echo canceller off. You should have the echo level down to a level that can be filtered by the echo canceller. If you are using a sip device to talk through your PSTN line, you should probably do all the echo cancellation at that device and leave it switched off in the SPA.

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