Space after SL install

I see that Apple has said that we should get about 6GB back after SL install. I got 30. Is this normal? What has everyone else been experiencing? I also notice that a 500GB external now shows 500GB of space as opposed to the 465 that it used to show. Thought?

See http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=10120661 for starters. As for 30 GB, that change might explain what you're seeing.

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