Space Designer Deconvolution time

I have a G4 933 w/ 1 gb of ram. I have recorded a impulse & response to make my own "reverb" in Space Designer. Everything goes fine until I save tell Space Designer where to save the file. Then once i tell it where to save the IR, it gives me the beachball and just spins for like 20 hours. I'm wondering what a normal time is to make an IR...the file is only 3 seconds long, so i cant imagine it should take more than 20 hours. Any suggestions on processing times? if that's longer than normal, any suggestions on how to fix the problem?

Should be closer to 20 seconds. Try using different files, song, formats/rates/resolutions, and destinations for starters. You'll probably get it to work and by process of elimination find out what is wrong. After that try removing prefs.

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Space Designer deconvolution

I am having problems in creating Impulse Response files. When I click on "Deconvolution" I am prompted with
"load coded impulse"
I load in the recorded sweep file. (which is longer in duration than the test file)
"load test signal"
I load in the test signal.
"save IR"
I have tried saving both to the the Soundtrack library where the other responses are stored and also to the "Documents" folder. I have also tried with and without the .SDIR extension.
I have tried having the files exactly the same length and was prompted with " recorded sweep must be equal to or longer than the test signal.
All this and no file is ever saved. Can't see in the finder and can't load in the new IR file.
HELP!!!!!!!!!
Tried this MaCBOOK PRO (1 Gig ram) and PowerBook and iMac (power PC) with the same results.
Thanks

I have searched through these posts and Logic forums, as Space Designer is also part of Logic Pro. I have found nothing on creating your own IR's.
Thanks
Mike Mattson

Space Designer Deconvolution Problem/Question

Hi everyone. When I try to deconvolve my recorded sine sweep responses in space designer the result is just a wave file minus the sine sweep. In other words the resulting IR has no reverb tail. Is this normal? Do I have to then create a Reverb tail?
Thanks
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Another way of wording the question that I originally asked;
I recorded a ten second sine sweep. when I deconvolve I end up with a ten second impulse response. Is this normal? Do I now need to shorten the IR using space designer, or is it supposed to create a reverb tail automatically?
If anyone out there knows this answer please let me know.

SPACE DESIGNER BLOCK

I have a project that I can no longer open in which I used space designer. each time I try to open the project, only the space designer tool/window opens and nothing else. any ideas?

Thank you (art of sound)
Very simple to fix then. tho it seems a very uneccessary complication for a newbie like me (or for anyone else for that matter) Thanks again...

One instance of Space Designer for multiple instruments

Hi - I know that if you have - for example - four instances of an instrument all using the same Space Designer setting, you can have just one instance of the SD and use buses to send all the instruments to the same - somewhere - so they can all use it.
I've tried this but I obviously placed the SD in the wrong -somewhere - since they didn't find it.
Where is the correct place ?
Thanks -Kay.

Yes, that's the way to go.
It is a shame, by the way, that names assigned to Busses in the I/O labels dialog are global to all Projects, so if you go crazy at one time and use *and name* 17 Busses for parallel compression, this naming is reflected in all other Projects too. Also, configurations in older Projects ported from V6,7,8 will vary wildly as you have refined your Templates, shifted gear, sold hardware etc. over the years. I have recently worked on a Project started in 2003, and Bus names were all over the place. It is one thing to have indifferent Bus 13, Bus 14, Bus 15 shown in the Sends, but it's a whole other dimension when all the names are wrong like Guitars, Vocals, Moreme when actually they feed Delay 1, Headphone and Drums.
You can, however, work around this limitation. After copying the *IO Labels* file from User/Library/Application Support/Logic to a safe place like +Default IO Labels+, you can change the original to your liking and then copy that to your Project folder. This way you can throw the correct file back into the AppSupp folder when you're working on that Project later. You have to restart Logic for this to take effect.
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Space Designer tutorial ?

Hi dears,
i need to found Space Designer tutorial files, i need for sampling a room.
Please help.
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Yes, and the method I described allows you to make a sine sweep, defining the time of the sweep, and the start and end frequencies. It's in the test oscillator, there's a button you can press called sweep. Once you have set the settings, press the button that has x1 written on it. Guess what happens... A sine sweep! If, for some reason, you don't like that method, then all of Logic's synths can create sine waves, although it will be harder to get it to sweep fully as you need to define the pitchbending and then automate it. I'm not sure it the bender will go that far...
Seriously, the way I described is the way to do it. I really suggest you have another try, as it will work.

Space Designer Presets and Impulses... Gone?!

I'm stymied...
Been wanting to audition some Space Designer reverbs, but for some reason all of the presets were gone from the settings menu. I don't remember what I did exactly, but I found them and moved them into the SD settings folder somewhere on my system. And now I have all of my presets back. But...
Every time I load one of the presets, Logic asks me where the .sdir file is for it.
This never used to be a problem. Why it's different today is beyond me. But anyway...
Can someone please tell me where .sdir files are supposed to be located? And also, just so I'm sure everything is where it should be, where should the SD preset settings live?
-=iS=-

Works perfectly.
For some reason my impulse responses and settings were in two places:
iSchwartz HD/Library/Logic/Impulse Responses
...and...
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Weird...
Anyway, thanks again.

Problems with the Space designer

Forgive my poor English on this, i don't really know how to explain this but:
When i record a guitarpart with a delay made in the space designer, i hear 'cracks' in my headphones and on my monitors (looks like the sound when a recording is clipping but the input signal is low enough)
When i play back the recorded part, or when i bounce it, i don't hear a thing.
It's pretty annoying when your recording, because sometimes i start playing off-tempo because i get destracted to much by the cracks.
Is there any solution to it, or is my computer just too slow?
I'm running Logic Studio on a Macbook,1.83 Ghz, 2 gig ram, 250 gig hd, 5400 rpm.
Should i try recording on my external 7200 rpm drive instead?

What do you use for the arped delay? I can imagine if this is a stereo delay and the sound comes back at periods at the same time (because it is in tempo) it will crack at certain points some how (volume doubling). Maybe try to switch the phase on the delay one channel (if stereo). Still remains odd it doesn't crackle when you play it back though...

No Tonewheel organ or Space designer in Logic Express 9...

hi,
i read on the apple wesbite that in Logic express 9 there is a tonewheel organ and space designer. However i purchased it yesterday and cant seem to find it has been installed?
any suggestions?

Hi,
however... there is a not-to-bad Garageband tonewheel plugin availabe. Not quite as flexible as the B4 or the Logic Pro version, but I've been using it a couple of times.
For reverb, I often use AudioUnits > Apple > AUMatrixreverb. Better than the standard LE9 reverbs, IMHO. And if I need a "real" reverb, I use Lernvall Audio LAConvolver, a free convolution reverb ( http://audio.lernvall.com/ ).
Regards,
Jaap

Space Designer preset select crash

I'm running Logic Studio (upgraded from L7) on a core duo iMac, osx 1.4.10
Selecting a preset in Space Designer crashes Logic.
Any preset does this and it does it every time.
Anyone else experiencing this?

You've got to be kidding. It worked! Thanks for the suggestion Peter.
So:
Spotlight off = Spacedesigner crashes while selecting preset.
Spotlight on = No crash.
I never would have guessed that. To tell you the truth, Logic8 loads a little faster now as well. Cool.
Dustin

EMT 252, 250 and nonlin Space Designer IRs

Just got the latest Acousticas library. EMT252XL.
It's a whopper with about 2000 irs, incl. the 252 with 250 and nonlin programs.
I really like the detail put into this one. The frequency multipliers are there as well, making it a breeze controlling the low end of the reverb.
I wish Apple would update Space Designer's IR browser to be a little more modern. Pulling the load menu is not very convenient when dealing with so many impulses.
I remember writing Acousticas after getting their first library. I asked them if they could provide comparison between the IRs and the hardware. Guess others did the same. This time they put up a video blind test and IMO it is really hard to distinguish which is the hardware and which is the IR.
Links to blind test and other videos
http://www.acousticas.net/World/Videos/Acousticas/EMT252/PianoDemo252.mov
http://www.acousticas.net

I have these IR's too and they're great.
Although I've run into a bug using them with Space Designer -- the bug appears to be Logic's fault, not the Acoustica IR's, which run fine in other convolvers like Altiverb and waves IR-1.
When I load the EMT 252/250 IR's into Space Designer, instead of a 3 or 4 second impulse, I get a .3 or .4 second impulse. Using the "show IR in Finder" triangle on Space Designer reveals that Logic is loading the wrong IR files. I've been over this with the folks at Acousticas, who are very helpful.
Did a reinstall, trashed some prefs and cache files, and Space Designer still insists on loading the wrong files. Yet another bug I assume Apple will turn a deaf ear to.
Just something to watch for. In the meantime, I'm lucky that I can still use Altiverb or Waves to hear these great IR's.
T

Space Designer loses impulses

Hi
I have a song with a two Space Designers which use impulses from NoiseVault. I've loaded the IR's and saved off presets, not a problem. However, sometimes when I reopen the song the Space Designer asks for the location of the IR's again. So I find them and it's happy. When I come back to the song again at a later time, it asks for the IR's again. What's going on, the preset seems to be losings the location of the IR, which hasn't changed.
cheers
z

zibba, try putting a "noisevault" alias in
-/Library/ApplicationSupport/Logic/ImpluseResponses.
have had the same problem, and the above should help. unless of course, you've put them there already.
also, get onyx and use the "optimise system" command.

Space Designer Lost all Factory presets

Can anyone figure out how to get the factory presets back into Space Designer? Somehow something got corrupted. I find the factory presets in the library but only (18 Concerts & Halls) shows up in the slide out window on the plug in itself. I have tried trashing preferences, moving all presets out & back in to library, and re-installing Soundtrack Pro onto my hard drive without any success. Space Designer is a great plug-in and the factory presets are great time savers. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Lost without my Space Designer Factory Presets.

gene6,
Here is the way I get the factory presets for Space
Designer.
1) Add Space Designer as an effect to a track.
2) Click on the "advanced..." button to show the cute
knobs and sliders.
3) Right-Click on the "IR Sample" triangle located at
the top of the big circle on the left side. (If you
don't have a two-button mouse, buy one quick.)
4) This menu says "Load IR, Load IR & INIT, or Show
in FInder. I pick Load IR.
5) This then goes to the 36 folders of Impulse
Responses in the Library so you can pick an .SDIR
file like "in the shower" inside bathrooms. Then
click Open to load it into Space Designer to try it
out on that track.
6) If you like it (or twiddle with it to where you
can use it), show the user presets and click the "+"
button to add this setting to your list of User
Presets for easy retrieval.
I still don't know if there is a place for tutorials
in this forum, but this works for me.
Hope it helps.
David
Thanks David your a wiz. this totally is the solution I was looking for.
gene6
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Space Designer IR files

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