Space Designer True Stereo file channel config.

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I'm trying batch convert IR's for Logic users.
I have created true stereo IR's (not with the logic impulse utility)
They are currently 2 interleaved stereo .wav files
Left Side-Left&Right.wav
Right Side-Left&Right.wav
For Space Designer to load true stereo it needs to see a single 4channel interleaved file? Is this correct? If so what is the channel configuration & or naming convention/header or quicktime meteadata to let SD know what to do?

Just to try to help: as you say, this is a cross-post. Perhaps if any Impulse Response Utility users would like to respond, it might be better for them to do so in the +Logic Pro 8 Forum.+ There are a lot more experts in there… you may have had a reply already by now!
Here's the link: [http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2057446&tstart=0]

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    jlb223 wrote:
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    Wm J Heart wrote:
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