Spaces headaches - anyone get virtue or desktop manager to work in Leopard?

Question

I'd been using "desktop manager" in Tiger and while it had its annoyances (minimize then maximize required to move windows between desktops), it didn't interfere with my work the way Spaces does. The app partitioning concept doesn't work for me -- I want task partitioning and some of my different tasks require the same app.
I tried to get Virtue Desktop and Desktop Manager to work today but no luck. They both behave very oddly with Spaces on or off. Interestingly, Desktop Manager behaves better with Spaces "on" in that with Spaces "off", I can't even create new windows in other desktops if the application is opened elsewhere.
Anyway, I know there's a non-free desktop manager out there -- has anyone tried it with Leopard? Or are there other solutions people are using to effectuate task partitioning?
Message was edited by: thepotter

Answer 1

I tried the wrong "You Control Desktops" in my first post about it. The one to try with Leopard is here:
http://www.yousoftware.com/beta/
Chose the 1.3 b5 application -- the "You Control 1.6" is some kind of menu system -- not a multiple desktop application.
Anyway, the 1.3 beta has some issues too.
With Spaces ON:
I ssh'd into another machine with an X11 terminal, then launched a second terminal from my SSH session, and then launched two application from each of the terminals. For the most part, interaction was as one would expect. A couple times, my terminal's became hard to touch -- clicking on the title bar of the window sometimes helped, and clicking back and forth between windows also sometimes did the trick. Sometimes it takes some combination of zooming back for all the spaces and/or using expose to be able to interact with an application. Moving the child X11 windows to other desktops was problematic -- clicking a window would shoot me off to other Desktops -- but it may be possible to figure out what is going on with a little trial and error.
With Spaces OFF:
No problem switching between X11 child windows (after SSH'ing into another machine, launching a second terminal window and then launching apps from both windows). However, it isn't possible to move X11 or any of it's children windows to other desktops. Mac apps will switch windows by dragging them to the side of the screen, but none of the X11 windows would do this -- not even the original terminal window. Plus, you can't use the old workaround of minimizing on one Desktop and maximizing on another -- the X11 windows stay on the desktop from which they were first launched. Period. Starting a second X11 terminal in another desktop and then starting a second concurrent SSH session, made it impossible to reliably interact with any windows launched from the first X11 terminal.
Anyway, for $30 to buy You Control Desktops -- I'm inclined to just get VMware, assign it to a desktop, and run Ubuntu in it. That would give me a usable interface with multiple desktops (on the one "Space"), but it adds another login to wade through -- which is also less than ideal.