Spaces with Multiple Displays

I have been using Spaces with my MacBook with an external display, without mirroring to extend my desktop. Overall, it works really well and has certainly made things less hectic when I have 1-8 windows open per application and up to 5 applications.
One thing I figured out by playing is that you can have windows from the same application in different spaces. For example, I have FireFox open with three windows, and can position one FF window in each of three spaces. The only way to do this that I have found is to drag the individual windows from the Spaces view (F8), but it's really useful for me to have web-pages organized by Space (personal, work, Google, etc.). By the way, if I shut down FF or restart the machine, the windows do not "remember" which Space they were in, which is not surprising to me. I assume that is a limitation of FF, not OS X.
Now here is the issue/problem I have experienced several times: Every so often, I will completely "lose" one or more windows. For example, I have two FF windows open in Space 4, then upon switching to another space and going back to Space 4, the windows are gone. They still show up in the list of FF windows (from the "Windows" menu in FF itself), so I think they are still open, but it's like they were assigned to Space 0 or something. There is no way to get to them or bring them back that I have found. There is also no good explanation for why this is occurring or any reproducible set of circumstances.
I can accept that I am pushing the envelope on Spaces using both multiple displays and splitting windows from one application across Spaces, so I am not expecting this to work flawlessly (yet). However, it sure would be useful to be able to recover from this when it occurs.
By the way, as a tip I have mapped my mouse button 3 (external mouse with a scroll wheel that has a button) to show Spaces, which has been very handy for me.
One last thing: Does anyone else think it would be cool to have Spaces act more like true individual Desktops? In other words, be able to set background image per Space and maybe even have different files on each Space/Desktop? Files would be more involved since Spaces are less permanent than a real Desktop, but background images seems like an easy thing to be able to code for.

Just to be clear, you CAN run an application and split its windows across different Spaces by dragging those windows in the Spaces view. So open Firefox in Space 1, open a second FF window in Space 1, then F8 and drag the second window into Space 2 and voila. It's somewhat random what happens when you click on the application icon in the dock when you do this, but it does work.
Good point about the background being very resource-intensive. Never mind.

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Using Spaces with Multiple Displays

I'm wondering if there is a way to setup Spaces to only show spaces for the main display in a duel monitor setup.
I have a 19inch monitor I use when I'm at work and I do not enable mirroring so that I can get a higher resolution on the 19inch monitor than what my aging ibook (1024x768) can put out. When I do this and activate spaces, each space shows both monitors....the larger 19inch and then off the corner of that, the smaller 14 inch of my ibook.
What I want is for when I'm hooked up to my 19inch display, for my laptop display to in essence not exist. This way when I activate spaces (currently set to 4) I just get 4 "19 inch" spaces instead of, what looks like, 8 spaces.
Any thoughts? Any scripts or terminal commands to make this happen?

I put off upgrading to Leopard almost exclusively because of this reason... I thought I'd be able to get over it for a couple weeks until 10.5.2 comes out, but tonight I'm pulling my hair out.
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When I go into full screen mode in Safari 5.1 on LION it switches to a new Space, making my other displays useless. Anyone else annoyed that Apple has completely left out those with multiple displays?

I had a fear that this was going to be the case, but you can't have two full screen apps open in two different displays. At least that's how Safari fullscreen works. When switching over to full screen mode in safari, it automatically creats a new space, turns on four finger gesture to swipe through full screen apps which I had turned off in place of App Switcher.
I don't use spaces because of the lack of support for using spaces with multiple displays. I would use spaces and mission control if I had control of each display's mission control separately.
The fix would be to unlink the displays so they can scroll through full screen apps by themselves. I want this feature so I can mix and match the full screen apps on my three different displays. I see this beneficial for more people with multiple displays. in the future when thunderbolt display links, people will want better support too.
I know I would use spaces and mission control more if I could have this ability. I'd be interested to know people's opinion.

No no, if you read what I said, it would be that each individual display would be customizable to the user. The way you have it, it sounds like your second display will be dedicated to scrolling through fullscreen apps not allowing you to do it on the home screen. This is silly because with my concept, you could do that, by dragging apps to fullscreen in your second display, but if you want you could tell another display to scroll through fullscreen apps (independently) if you wanted. Each display will have it's own mission control with it's own set of desktops. I also can see how some people would still want them linked together, so this could just be a little check box made in mission control prefs to "link" or "unlink" desktops with link checked by default.
With your solution you're limited to your setup. but what if the person has three or four displays? Well then your solution would limit them to one dedicated display that scrolls through fullscreen apps where mine lets a person customize their desktops depending on their preference and setup.
further example: if you have safari, address book and mail in one display, you could still have ichat, PS and Illustrator in your second, and a text editor, FTP Client and iTunes in your third. Then you would mix and match these apps but it would promote the use of mulitple displays as well as benefit people with three or more, which thunderbolt, Cinema Display and Pro computers support.

Analysis Authorization based on Hier node with multiple display hierarchies

Hi guys - I've got a problem where s.o. might have an idea of how to switch on the light at the end of the tunnel, I am currently standing in:
Requirement:
Cost Center Authorization should be given through RSECADMIN, reporting should be possible for any hierarchy that exists for the authorization relevant info object.
Preferred solution:
The Cost Center Analysis Authorization should be given through RSECADMIN - Hierarchy node assignment.
u2022     A dedicated Authorization Cost Center Hierarchy will be maintained in ECC6 as an alternative cost center hierarchy and extracted into BW.
u2022     The RSECADMIN Hierarchy node assignment should be based on a particular node (Type 2).
u2022     The display level will be specified as required (here: Level 7)
u2022     The Authorization granted should be independent of hierarchy name and version (validity 3).
Reporting Scenario and technical impact:
As mentioned above, when designing and running a query the user should be able to freely select other (i.e. than the authorization) display hierarchies for the authorization relevant reporting object 'Cost Center' as well. The technical names of the semantically relevant hierarchy nodes could therefore vary. E.g. cost centers 1, 2 and 3, being assigned under hierarchy node u2018Au2019 of the RSECADMIN relevant authorization hierarchy, could be subsumed by hierarchy node u2018Bu2019 in another display hierarchy, which the user may want to display in accordance to his reporting needs. Ideally, the alternative display hierarchy should therefore display node u2018Bu2019.
My findings so far (based on prototyping) turn out that this is not possible as long u2018Bu2019 (and its hierarchy) is not authorized in RSECADMIN. Can these findings be confirmed? And if not, would anyone have an idea of how to facilitate the reporting scenario?
Would there be any other way to grant access, possibly based on RSECADMIN single values, and also enable the user to flexibly display hierarchies with only those hierarchy nodes whose single cost center values the user has been given access to?
Thanks everyone for your input...
Claus
Edited by: Claus64 on Jul 13, 2009 4:10 AM

HI CLause,
On Jul 14 2009, you wrote in SDN and said:
FYI: Found a solution...
The hierarchy analysis authorization will be based on a navigational attribute of cost center.
With analysis authorizations it is possible to declare the Auth object (e.g. 0COSTCENTER__RACCAUT0) as authorization relevant and leave the superior object 0COSTCENTER auth irrelevant.
The auth will be given for 0COSTCENTER__RACCAUT0. This object will be placed as a filter of the query, being restricted by an Authorization variable for hierarchy nodes.
Due to the concept of Analysis Authorizations, this variable will automatically pick up the nodes granted as part of RSECADMIN Hierarchy based Authorization.
As mentioned above, 0COSTCENTER as the regular reporting characteristic remains auth irrelevant and can therefore take any hierarchy thatu2019s available. Reporting on single values will be possible, too. Only those nodes show up that hold the authorized cost centers in accordance to the authorization.
If the auth relevant 0COSTCENTER__RACCAUT0 is not used in the query definition by either not taking it in as a filter or skipping the Auth variable, the query will launch the message that the authorization is missing. No data show up at all.
Claus
See this thread:
Analysis Authorization based on Hier node with multiple display hierarchies
I am also in the same situation as you and need to understadn your solution. I understand that you created a Nav Attr on 0COSTCENTER and made this auth relevant whilst ensuring that 0COSTCENTER is NOT auth relevant. This is all fine. The issue was you have multiple hierachies for 0COSTCENTER, how did the new Nav Attr help you solve your issue. When loading 0COSTCENTER what values did you load ino the new Nav Attribute and how did that link to the hierachies? Also, in RSECADMIN you created hiearchy nodes based on the Nav Attribute but I am confused as to what values you have in the Nav Attr.
I appreciate if you can share your solution from the past in more details.
many thanks

OS X Lion with multiple displays/monitors?

As you've problably figured out by now, the answer is no. Fullscreen applications like Mail, Safari, and even Quicktime are sadly a dud with multiple monitors. With Mail and Safari, you end up getting the knit grey background like in Mission Control.
Here's my problem. In Snow Leopard, I used to be able to run a fullscreen movie in Quicktime on my TV monitor. It would run in the background while I was doing other stuff, still playing the movie in fullscreen. Now, with Lion, I can't do that. Due to the 'upgraded' fullscreen function on Quicktime, whenever I try watching a movie in fullscreen on my other monitor, the window moves to my main monitor and the other monitor goes black.
There probably isn't an instant fix for this, but please Apple, give your multi-display customers some love and let us have the ability to use seperate spaces and fullscreen applications on other monitors. It's hard to overlook this.

This is the single reason why I am still using Snow Leopard on my iMac which has two additional displays connected to its ThunderBolt ports.
I didn't buy monitors to display fake grey linen. The real linen is cheaper.
Please provide feedback on this design decision via -http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
I'm hoping that if enough pressure is built up, they'll add an option:-
"Allow me to use my external displays = Yes/No"
I use Aperture, and here is what it looks like under Snow Leopard
When running Lion, the left and right screens look like this

MacBook Pro Freezing with Multiple Displays

Hi guys,
I've been having a bit of an issue with my MacBook Pro and its handling of multiple displays. I recently bought a third-party adapter off Amazon (that was highly rated and Prime eligible, so it wasn't some completely unknown, 1 dollar adapter). I'm driving two displays: a 1600x900 display over HDMI, and a 1920x1080 display over DVI via the aforementioned adapter.
Whenever I use the adapter with any of these displays, I get intermittent freezes. The computer will freeze for about 10 seconds every so often, and everything besides audio will halt. Audio continues to play back just fine, just any animations/video will freeze. If I have the iTunes visualizer up, it'll freeze. If I have a video up, same thing.
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Here's a list of what I've tried to suss out the problem:
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2. Zapped PRAM. No dice.
3. Watched Activity Monitor and Console when freeze occurs. Nothing out of the ordinary appears.
4. Swapped display configurations around. Not much changed.
5. Tried seeing if the freezes persist in safe boot: Yes, they do.
6. Tried seeing if the freezes persist in recovery: Yes, they do.
7. Tried combining the two adapter I have on hand (DVI-HDMI and TB-DVI) and running one display over HDMI from the combined adapter: Freezes have gone away for whatever reason.
Anyone have any idea what might be going on? If there's any conclusion I can draw from this, it's that either pure DVI output is broken on my machine, or somehow it's still the adapter I bought causing the freezes. I'm not sure what to do, and while I want to take this machine into the Genius Bar and let them poke at it, trying to reproduce this problem might be really hard in that environment. :/

Hello, exactly the same as mine (MBP early '08) now after nearly 3 year, confronted with the same.
Unfortunately, my first MBP late '07 went through the same problem (no flickering the screen just freeze out of nothing, and 2 logic board, memory replacment didn't help, maybe even 3 logic boards - it's a while ;)) Anyway I got this as replacement. And it just worked fine until yesterday.
Bad now, my AppleCare startet with the first MBP and so its not longer valid. Have my Genius appointment on Saturday and hope it will not be to frustrating.
As 3 years ago I have been reading through the forums and later followd partly these Nvidia discussion, seems to me there is more behind and the root cause never was found. And since Apple has changed the model entirely, I guess rc will never be found.
I will let you know the outcome of the talk on Saturday.

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When I "get info" none of the drives display capacity or availability.
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My startup drive should have over 400GB of freespace, so there is plenty of space. This problem also occurs when I connect my Macbook Pro in target mode and attempt to transfer over files.
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Have you emptied the Trash on those drives?
Could be many things, we should start with this...
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Select your Mac OS X volume.
5. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
Then try a Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.
(Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive.)
If perchance you can't find your install Disc, at least try it from the Safe Boot part onward.
How much free space is on the HD, where has all the space gone?
OmniDiskSweeper is likely the easiest/best, and is now free...
http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omnidisksweeper/download/

10.10.2 - Issues with multiple displays on sleep

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Using Headphone Jack with Multiple Displays with Mavericks

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Hi guys,
This is my situation, I have a 3 monitor setup (27" SA850 PLS) not running on Eyefinity, simply using extended desktop and playing only on one monitor. 2 of the monitors are connected to the card using Display Port and another one using the Dual DVI connector. My resolution is 2560x1440 on the 3 monitors.
When I play a game (i.e. SC2) one of the side monitor flickers, If I'm on normal 2D everything works fine. The one that flickers is connected using the display port.
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* Installing latest Catalyst (12.1).
* Swapping monitors.
* Swapping cables.
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It is only happening on the monitor connected to the second display port on the card. Disregarding of what cable or monitor I use, If it is connected to the second display port it will suffer flickering when I go into a game. Remember the one suffering the flickering will not be the one I use to play which is connected on the dual DVI port.
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I even tried all the following combinations where A, B, C are monitors. Min resolution is 1024x768 and Max Resolution is 2560x1440. C will be the monitor connected to this specific display port.
1. A Resolution Max
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I have my Mac connected to my TV (not mirroring) and I'm using Spaces.
I was wondering if it was possible to assign to each display, a different Space?
In other words, can I have my Mac screen displaying Space 1, and my TV displaying Space 3?
My problem is simple: I'm working on my Mac display, and I'm also watching a video on my TV. But I can't display the video in full-screen because then it takes up both screens.
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My MacPro freezes on boot up, at Apple logo or logging in screen with noise.
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I have to set my display arrangement on every reboot every since Mountain Lion (clean install). I have 3 24" Apple Cinemea Displays connected to 3 Nvidia GT120s. I have a friend with a Mac Pro as well and 3 displays having the same problem.
It doesn't seem to be an issue when I only use 2 displays.
Thing I've tried:
Delete /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.plist and ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.xxx
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SMC reset, PRAM and NVRAM reset.
Clear system cache and kernel extennsion cache (via Onyx)
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I am running the primary monitor off one of the two ports on the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285
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