SPDD & SPAU and EhP4 before or after ?

Hello all
We intend to go for upgrade from 4.6c to ECC6 with EHP4 ..We are planning to have SPDD & SPAU first then install EhP4 and then again SPDD & SPAU. But my question is in order to save time can we skip the initial SPDD & SPAU analysis n fixation part and directly go to EhP4 installation and then do the SPDD & SPAU analysis .?
Please help
Thanks & Regards
Nilesh

Hello Friend,
Rgrding the SPAU and SPDD...I would suggest that the way you have taken is correct...
Because you are upgrading ECC6 from 4.6c and i can expect there are lot of customization!
so first to SPAU & SPDD after ECC6 again after ENh4 (because enhancement package can bring some new feature alongside the ECC6)...
In that way it is easy to maintain the system and existing code...
good luck
Rgrds
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/2e/6d66617d9011d396b60000e82de14a/frameset.htm
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Hi Everybody,
I have gone through the links and the questions in SDN and ended up in some confusion...
What objects will come in SPAU and SPDD?
What happens to the modifications done in the older version when we upgrade the version? (with Modification assistant and w/o)
Will they come in these transactions?
And what if we apply some patches(Notes) to the system? What is the impact of these patches to the SPAU transaction?
Please provide me the information..
Thanks in advance...
Rewards to the helpful answers...
Sankar....
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I have gone through the links and the questions in SDN and ended up in some confusion...
1.What objects will come in SPAU and SPDD?
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