Special Consignment scenario ??????????????
Hello All
I am working with Consignment scenario
The customer has a scenario that when I am creating a consignment fill up order to a customer when they want to issue the consignment they are putting a different customer so the system is not issuing the consignment goods, so can I create the consignment issue order with reference to a consignment fill up order and change the customer so the system will issue the goods to the new customer and withdraw it from the consignment stock of the first customer
Regards
Jacopo François
Dear Jacopo Francois
As you would be aware, the login behind to adopt consignment fillup and issue process is that we transfer the stock from unrestricted to special stock which is nothing but, that particular stock is earmarked for a particular sold to party. This being the standard, why you want to change the customer in the issue order stage which is not at all recommended.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi
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Balaji Genupurhai
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Edited by: Ashok ku. on Nov 26, 2009 10:18 AMHi Ashok,
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