Special Procurement using External Procurement & Subcontracting

Hello everyone!
We currently have a material that is set up as "F" Procurement Type (External) with Special Procurement Type "30" (Subcontracting). We have active scheduling agreements for subcontracting procurement of this material. User also needs to be able to create scheduling agreements for this material where the special procurement type will be "20" (External) to be able to purchase directly from a different vendor.
We know that we can only assign one special procurement method (i.e. subcontract (L)) to a special procurement type for MRP. Therefore, my challenge to all of you is to help me find a way to procure as an external part . Is there a process which will allow this?
I am trying to create new sched. agreements but the system is validating the procurement type we settled for the material as type 30. We know that we can modify the message to a "w" type, but actually i there any problem expect if we doing it? It is that all that we have to do?
Any help will be appreciate it .

In this case, you should look at only keeping Procurement type as "F" and Special procurement key as "blank" which give you the flexibility to do both, subcontracting as well as direct procurement.
Also is your MRP run resulting in schedule lines being created in the scheduling agreement?

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customer req:
Is there a way to make an external procured material both subcontract and consignment?
My research has concluded that you can only assign one special procurement method (i.e. consignment (K), or subcontract (L)) to a special procurement type for MRP. Therefore, my challenge to all of you is to help me find a way to procure a subcontract part (i.e. the material has components below it in the BOM), but post goods receipt the material into consignment stock. The components for the material must also be issued (543 O movement type) during the posting of goods receipt.

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As I said, you cannot do this without causing problems with the GL postyings unless all of the items are Zero value.
You need to consider what you are trying to do. You are trying to create a finished product from some somponents and a service provided by the subcontractor. You are then saying that this material (that has value) is going to be passed to consigment stock and consignment stock is not yours, it has no value and does not show in any GL.
So effectively you are asking for a situation where a stock item with value can be moved to a vendors consigmnet stock.
I really need to know why you think that you need to move it to consignment stock? Which vendor would you use, who would you pay when iot is consumed and how much would you pay? Why is it your stock when you have the components, still your stock when the finished product has been produced but then it suddenly becomes the vendor's stock.
So the main difficulty is passing the ownership of the item to a vendor.
Could you possibly use a copy of the write-off movement type to remove the stock from your ownership? You could then reverse this when you want to bring it back? But I guess that you may want to have some stock visibility and this would not achieve this?
The other option is to have the components valued at ZERO, raise the subcontract PO also with a value of ZERO (switch off the IR flag). Then you will have a zero value item and NO postings during the process. You still won't have it in consignment stock because I think that a 412 movement may cause a credit for the value of the consignment stock (not sure though).
Basically I can see perhaps why you might need this but I would probably suggest that you do one part or the other on SAP and do the other part off system (subcontract or Consignment). So treat it all as consignment stock but consume the components som other way.
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Hi,
You might have already checked these settings:
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2) Prepare the material master of the required material in planning plant , in MRP 2 view maintain spl proc key as 80 (production in alternative plant)
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Hello
Do I need to maintain SG's ( like SG10, 40, 70) for ROH as these are externally procured?
As I see since ROH are externally procured, no need to maintain the SG (10, 40, 70,etc) in MRP 3 view of the ROH* material master as SG's (10, 40, 70)* are meant for maintianing PIRS & PIRs means it is inhouse production
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If the component is semifinished & is externally procured, then following settings needs to be maintained
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But Subcontracting(30) is used when we want semifinshed product to be manufactured outside the company from a raw material issued by the company
& control key we maintain is PP02
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In your answer (" u have to set Individual/coll = 1 or blank at MRR of Down level material.")
what does MRR stand for
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For external procurement with a Valuated Sales Order Stock, system generates a purchase requisition from the sales order.
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