Speed Difference ~ 17" and 20" iMac
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Ian, thank you for a reply. I will respond to your questions.
1. I did not because I had no sense that the two machines were different. It was too late after I realized that there was a significant difference in speed. I still have no applications installed and am considering a clean install of OS X v10.4.8 on the 20". I may also reinstall everything on the 17" as well.
2. Meaningless, maybe? Cold Start: 17" = 0.34 min. and 20" = 0.55 min. Restart: 17" = 0.42 min. and 20" = 0.62 min. My timing device was a stopwatch and two runs were averaged.
If I do not obtain any insight into my issue I will do a clean reinstall on both machines and install applications. Then I will retest incrimentially and post the results.
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