Speed problems with dual band AEBS

I got the new dual band AEBS to replace a belkin b/g router I had and so far it has been a headache. When it started it had 7.4.0 I think and it had speed issues. Certain web sites would take forever to load, even on my imac that was hardwired to the router. My wife's MacBook 1.8 ghz Core Duo (802.11g) had a strong signal but the speed on the web was also really slow, almost like dial up speeds.
I upgraded to 7.4.1 and the speed on the locally attached computer got way better, but my wife's laptop still is acting really slow over wireless.
I wanted to hook up my 2 TB raid to the thing as a AirDisk, but so far I don't trust the router enough to do it. Its a bit dissapointing as I am a real Apple fan in general.
Questions -
1) should I go to 7.3.2? Is this even possible with a dual band device?
2) is it possible that her laptop is trying to get on the wrong network and going slow for that reason?

I'm having the very same problem. Although I've upgraded to the new dual-band ABS (from ABSE), I was getting slower speeds on wireless after the 7.4.1 upgrade. In fact some of the speeds occasionally approach near dial-up while the Mac wired to the ABS is getting near DSL speeds. Very annoying.

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Thanks for your reply. My situation is a bit different as I have various wifi units from different locations (some US, some European, some Japanese, etc, etc). As such I need to pick a frequency that works for everything, and on my previous non dual band AEBS channel 48 worked fine. I have tried channel 161 just for curriosity and it made no difference. The transmit rate is listed at between 216Mbps and 27Mpbs but as soon as you attempt to transfer anything it drops significantly. I have also tried to time the difference between my new dual band AEBS and the older one and, regardless of what the connection speed is saying, the new one is definitely slower.
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