Split track movies

Howdy,
already posted this over at LogicPro Help, apologies if I'm boring anyone.
I work in tv composing, and frequently get sent split track movies (temp music on one side, everything else on the other).
My current monitors (old Genelec 1029s) have a handy power stitch on the front, so I can switch off the temp side, and listen to my cue (in mono) in situ. But my new monitors (KH120s) have the power switch at the back.
So I was wondering, how do people deal with their split track qts? I know I can extract audio, but that seems too time consuming, as I start a new project for every cue, and its a nightmare lining up the audio every time. And I don't want the movie audio coming through the main outs.
Am I missing something really easy?
I guess I could pull a cable out of the duet each time, but that doesn't seem very elegant...
Thanks in advance

To mute the speaker in OSX, use the Audio Midi Setup app. There you can mute the left or right channel separately.
However, I wonder why you are not extracting the audio from the video. This is basic scoring workflow.
You do it only once when you start a show and each new cue is just a "save as" copy of the previous cue (project) so the video/audio track is already in place.
Once in Logic, You click-hold on the output icon (the double circle) and you can just select the left or right channel. I usually create two audio tracks with same copy of the split track audio file and have one selected to play only the left channel (dialog) and the other one to play the right channel (temp). Now they are technically two independent mono track (that you can pan left to right)
This gives you complete mixing controls (if you have an external controller) for this tracks: solo, mute, eq, etc. Sometimes the production track has problems that you can fix (with automation) so it doesn't bother you when scoring with the dialog.
Screener. Don't you have to make screeners, little quicktime files of you cues to send to the director/producer for approval? Having the dialog on a track in your project, you can quickly make a decent mix, even for your own show reel.
Routing. Usually I have the dialog and temp tracks routed directly to a different channel on my audio interface, so it doesn't go through my master bus. This way they don't show up on the bounce and don't mess up my meters that I monitor constantly. Just for the export video procedure, I route them to the master bus.
Hope that helps
Edgar Rothermich
http://DingDingMusic.com/Manuals
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