Split valuation-Preliminary Cost estimate

Hello,
Is it possible to create a Prelimnary cost estimate for split valuated material.Relevant Proc alternaitves crtd
Pls help

Hi,
In the case of split valuation only header and not the valuation
type is costed.
If one material has split valuation, standard price will be released
only for header segment (valution type blank). You have the possibility
to release standard price for in-house production segment, if you set
the 'Default'-flag in the customizing transaction for splitted val.
(OMWC) for the val. category 'X'.
Please check the note 552486 that contains information about
this context. (Question 10).
Alternatively you might created mixed cost estimate to release prices
for each procurement alternative that is associated with an val. type.
The only way to mark and release a standard costing per valuation type
is by using the functionality of mixed costing. That means that you
have to define a quantity structure category and define a
procurement alternative based on a valuation type of your material.
Afterwards you have define a mixing ratio for your material and the
defined quantity structure category.
Based on this mastr data (procurement alternatives and mixing ratios)
it is possible to carry out a mixed costing, one part of this
mixed costing should be a cost estimate based on your valuation type.
If you mark and release the mixed cost estimate the system will
set the standard price on valuation type level (prerequisite:
you have the define the procurement alternative based on the
valuation level)
For more details please have a look in the R/3 documentation for
mixed costing or contact your consultant.
Please refer to NOTE 552486 (FAQ):
"Question 10: In the case of a split valuation, why can the prices only
be updated in the internal segment?
Answer:In the initial standard SAP System, only the header segment is
calculated and the price is updated only here.However, if the "Valuation
type 'in-house production' mandatory" flag is set for the categories in
Customizing (Transaction OMWC), it is also possible to update the price
in an internal segment.For external segments (procured externally) this
does not make any sense in general.However, mixed costings can also be created and updated for several segments via procurement alternatives."
Setting this flag will take impact on materials WITH split valuation
in the future. New prices will be released for the in-house segment
in addition to header segment in TA CK24.
Also check the online documentation related to this topic
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/
EN/34/f4af26be4411d1898f0000e8214595/frameset.htm
I hope the above information is of use to you.
MLM

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