Spontaneous Lockups with KT3 Ultra ARU

I'm getting a full system lockup from time to time. It doesn't just happen when gaming. Happens often when in PC Alert or Netscape, but it seams pretty random. Any Ideas?
Thanks,
LJ
MSI KT3 Ultra ARU
AMD 1700+ XP
GeForce4 MMX 440
SBLive Value
60 mb IBM HD
LiteOn CDR

I can partly agree, the SB Live software is far from perfect... :-/
In my experience, the most troublesome component is the update utlitity, Newsupd.exe, which is usually found somewhere in the '\Program Files\Creative\...' hierarchy. Try to rename this, reboot and see if it helps. (You will probably get a message during startup that Windows can't find this file, it is perfectly safe to ignore that warning. )
Best regards
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trial and error
but i have seen posts were people stopped using the sblive related to this,give the onboard a go

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Hi DataFMT,
Thanks!
You should see my IRQ's, I tried to get them all on a single one :D
It doesn't matter if they are shared or not.
But the trouble is, the APIC does try to seperate them for the CPU's (Yes CPU's) as it's Multi-CPU specification and designed to seperate them in order to let the appropriate CPU handle the IRQ instead of all off them at the same time.
On a single CPU system this is stupid to use as the CPU needs to respond to every IRQ anyway.
Microsoft gas gone totaly nuts on this matter and their article about the APIC is as stupid as it can be.
They are mixing all sorts of (A)Pic's without knowing what they are doing.
Ever wondered why Multi-CPU systems are so hard to get stable when the need for high-load is there?
Every system today has multiple PIC (programmable IRQ controller).
The first old one is called PIC, that one needs to be programmed for every IRQ and has a hard time on IRQ sharing and the OS needs to program it, when you use Standard-PC, that's the one you use.
Not a good one to use as it slows the system down.
So far Microsoft is right.
The next one is the Local-APIC (A=Advanced), this one can share IRQ's without problems and sort of programs itself, ergo, you can't change IRQ's, and there is no need to do so anyway.
This one is used when you enable ACPI and use ACPI-compliant-system.
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Then you have the I/O APIC, in the chipset, that one is the APIC/MPS the BIOS setting controls.
MS screws up here big time, this one translates the real IRQ's into addresses and feeds them to the CPU PIC or Local-APIC, depend if ACPI is enabled or not.
This one is a trouble maker, because the translation isn't needed for a single CPU system and not all drivers like it's behavior.
Another thing is that it needs to buffer a lot, and when driving your system to the limits it can jump IRQ signals because the servicing of them can be a bit behind.
This looks like the system is faster, but a jump can cause a lot of trouble.
Good samples of this happening are running too fast/slow system clock in WinNT/2000/XP when you have a heavy load.
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