Spot to Process Color in Page Maker

Hello Everyone.........
Can anyone help me in changing spot colors to Process Colors in Page Maker. I'm new with this.
Thanks & Regards

double click the color.
In color options click on spot and change it to CMYK

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Spot and Process colors - Color Mode confusion?

I have a question about how to choose colors in the New Color Swatch window. I think that I understand the difference between spot and process colors, but the dropdown options confuse me because whether I choose Spot or Process in the Color Type dropdown, the same list of libraries appears in the Color Mode dropdown. How does that work, or why does that happen? Is it a conversion? For example, if I choose Process as the Color Type, but then choose Pantone Solid Coated in the Color Mode, it shows me the colors available, but aren't the Pantone libraries for spot colors? And if I choose Spot as the Color Type, but then pick CMYK in the Color Mode, it gives the CMYK sliders. But shouldn't I be forced to pick from a Pantone library for a spot color? I would appreciate any explanations of this as I want to make sure that I pick the appropriate colors for my printed projects. Thank you!

You can create a spot color with a custom CMYK mix (and even name it the same as a library color if you want). The utility here is that you can create a custom spot color with a custom process conversion, or use your own own conversion numbers for one of the book colors if you think you have a better mix. I recently had to do a special mix for a Pantone spot conversion to fit a particualr press in order to get a better match to some other materials. That's how we handled it, though I did it by aliasing the pantone swatch to my custom spot and then changing that to process in the ink manager, rather than messing with the library color directly, which meant I could have either the custom or the book values, depending on the settings I chose, if the job went to another press.
There are, I believe, four sets of process libraries included in ID. The Pantone Process libraries are sets of stepped percentage mixes of the four process inks and have names that start with DS followed by some numbers. I think TrueMatch is a simialr system, though I've never worked with a printer who used it. Pantone Color Bridge and Solid to Process libraries are both process simulations of the Pantone Solid spot libraries. The Color Bridge is newer, and I think is largely replacing the solid to process.
You can get printed swatch books for any of the included libraries (spot and process) and you should do so for any library that you are going to use to specify color. Spot colors in particular may not render well on your monitor, and the press operator couldn't care less what you see on your screen. He's going to pull out his swatch book to verify that the color he puts on the page is the same as you specified.

Considerations when designing for spot vs. process color?

I'm helping a friend start up a clothing business. It's just him, and I'm providing some computing knowledge.
He is the designer and has been building his first set of graphics using AI.
He's selected the first two "printers". He ran into some price differences with a vendor that used spot colors vs. one that was process. I could give him a basic understanding of spot vs. process, but ran out of understanding when it came to questions like "Why the price difference?".
Would appreciate some explanation for things like "What kind of printers would shops with spot be using vs. those that do process?", "As the designer, are there reasons he would choose one method over the other?".
He will be producing both embroidered and printed media on different fabrics (cap, 2-3 different quality cloth). There will be different colors (for a particular design), and the size and location of the print/embroidery will vary (on the garment). All in all, there will be less than 12 variations each for color, size, and 12 location.
Along with the spot/process question, he's also being asked for different formats than he'd expect. Given my understanding that AI produces vector, if a vendor (the embroidery shop) asks for JPEGs, are they assuming he's done the scaling?
Will continue to do online searches and will post back if I figure this out.
Tom

The print shops should be able to explain the price difference and which one is more durable (depends on the printing process). Probably the one using spot colors does screen printing.
Regarding the embroidery: you should definitely clearly communicate which size the embroidery should be. It can be scaled within some limit, but you shouldn't rely on the service people interpreting the graphic's size and resolution.

Spot color to Process color conversion

I have a book that my boss is wanting printed. This book is filled with RGB / Spot colors. I've discovered that if I go to the "ink manager" I can check the box "All Spots to Process", but the strange thing is after doing that I check in my swatches pannel and discover that nothing was converted. What's up with that? I also found a handy script for converting all RGB colors to CMYK, but I have yet to locate a script to convert all spot to process colors in the swatches pannel. Anyone know where I can get a script for that?

If you are using OSX try this AppleScript:
tell application "Adobe InDesign CS6"
    tell document 1
        set accurate LAB spots to true
        repeat with a from 1 to count of every color
            try
                set model of color a to process
                set space of color a to CMYK
            end try
        end repeat
    end tell
end tell

Process Color Tint: Illustrator versus Freehand

I'm a FreeHand user from the first hour and now I'm forced to start working with AI which gives me the creeps!
In FH it is very easy to create a "tint" of a spot or process color. in AI, I only manage to do so with spot colors and not with process colors. For example, I have an object filled with 100% process color from the Swatches panel. Now I can change its transparency to 50% but that's not what I want; I want it to be filled with 50% of that same process color. In FH that's a piece of a cake. And even so in ID! why not in AI?

You need to use Global Process swatches, which are essentially process colors that function as spots.
In the Swatches palette, in List View, you should see a grey square next to the color model square (in Thumbnail view you will see a white dog-eared lower right corner of the swatch with no dot (the dot denotes a Spot).
In the Color palette you can change the tint of your Global Process color just as you can with a Spot. If you want to make a Tint Swatch, set it to some value, say 40%, and click the New Swatch button at the bottom of the Swatches palette (second from the right at the bottom).
Now when you edit your base color, all the tints change along with it.
Note: this will not magically apply the color to your art. It is best done at the beginning or while you are working, NOT as an afterthought. If you have existing art you should probably look at Live Color to get you by.
PS: Sorry if I came off brusque, but it's disheartening how often people come in here immediately bashing AI. I personally hate Freehand (and I had to use it for a long time) but it has no relevance to these discussions. And I'm not saying it didn't have its good stuff, it did - I just never cared for it compared to AI.

[JS] CS4 - Convert all spots to process

I have what is probably a very simple question. How do I get a script to convert any of the Swatches Spot colors to CMYK?
Any help would be huge. . .

How indeed.
InDesign doesn't work with 'colors' by default; if you use a spot or process color, it gets added to the Swatch panel. Now, one way to reliably iterate over all swatch items is using 'everyItem' -- a very handy function, which I'm using more and more instead of looping over an object array. It's description is not that useful ("Returns every Xxx in the collection" -- how? what do you get?) so, usually I just try.
It didn't work because the spot/process property is just found in "Color" (under the name "model") -- not in Swatches and Inks. At first I tried to sneak around this, using a try..catch (so InDesign picks up the error and continues on the next line) and then with 'hasOwnProperty('model'). Fortunately, you can loop over just the colors.
It's just a matter of trying the first thing you come up with and reading the unavoidable error message very carefully :-)
Are you by any chance working with a Windows machine? My own version of the Javascript help (found here) also displays parent/child relations in a graphic form, and that's quite often useful. (Windows, because for the Mac I only have it as HTML.)

Can I have "All spots to process" checked at all times, even for new spot colors?

When I check “All spots to process” in the pdf export settings and save my settings the settings remember that I've checked this option. But, if new spot color objects using new spot color swatches are added to the document (or another document) and I go into the pdf export settings the check mark has been changed into a dash (with the actual checkbox highlighted) – signifying that only some of of the spot colors will be changed to process colors during export. I absolutely fail to see how this could possibly be seen as a feature and not a bug … if the user has checked “ALL spots to process” wouldn't the user expect ALL spots to be converted to process colors, rather than just any spot colors that happened to be in the document that happened to be open when the user first checked that checkbox and saved that setting?
Am I missing something here? What's the point of even having that checkbox as part of your saved export settings if it doesn't include any other spot colors than those used when saving the settings?
What's the point of having settings if you can't trust them, and still need to manually "override" them every time?
I see that some users have taken to writing scripts that instead turn all spot colors in the swatch panel to process colors, and while I commend them for creating that workaround, I'm still pissed at Adobe for not getting the function right.
If this is a feature, who is it for? People who want to add just certain spot colors and turn those into process colors rather than turning all spot colors into process colors are surely better off doing that in the swatches panel, where they're in total control of what's what. And if they don't want to "permanently" change their spot colors to process colors, and prefer to (temporarily) convert them during exporting/printing only, they can do that in the ink manager. But when someone checks convert "All spots to process" couldn't we safely assume they really want ALL spot colors to be converted and not just some of them? I mean, the way that checkbox behaves now, it's like it's a button and not a checkbox. As in: hit the button "All spots to process" to switch all currently viewed spot colors to process colors in the ink manager, OR check the "All spots to process" checkbox to always convert ALL spot colors to process colors during exporting/printing.
Anyone got any light to shed on this?
And is there a way to actually get the advertised behavior, because if you have to run a script every time you export/print you might as well just manually select the checkbox every time instead, but either way it's just really unnecessary as far as I'm concerned … Adobe should get the feature right instead.
If you save a setting and recall it, it shouldn't be possible for that setting to change into something else (in this case changing a checkmark to a dash).
Clearly CMYK printing is the norm, so for most users it would make a lot of sense to have the "All spots to process" checked most of the time, and then you just go into the swatches panel or the ink manager and set things correctly for those print jobs that really do need spot colors.
I myself am not one of those who add spot colors to my swatches unless I'm really using them as spot colors, but I often work with magazines and folders featuring adverts made by whoever, and typically there's always at least one advert that features spot colors, and therefore it would be very nice if the "All spots to process" feature actually worked as advertised without any required actions from me.
We stopped sending ads back to the advertisers for adjustments a long time ago, unless we absolutely had to, because there were so many things wrong with so many ads that it was simply too much work to write back and explain everything to people who most of the time didn't even understand what we were talking about. We found that it was usually a LOT faster and easier to just adapt the ads ourselves, as long as it was something that could be worked out really quickly from within InDesign itself, which pretty much included most typical errors.
But with this feature I find Adobe is trying to make my job harder rather than easier, and it's pissing me off. Arrrghh… ;-)

But It's not a preference it's a shortcut
It's a bad joke, is what it is. ;-)
So, why in your opinion should it be presented the way it is? I keep saying in it's current functionality it shouldn't be presented the way it is (and that: if it is, it shouldn't work the way it does). If it's not a preference or even a proper checkbox, why present it that way?
If you put it right next to the table at the top of the window (so that it's directly associated with that information, rather than information right above it) and just called the checkbox “Spot(s) to process” and had it only visually reflect the content of the sleected spot colors in the table, then I'd see your point with likening it to the “Hyphenate” checkbox.
If a story has two selected paragraphs that uses two different hyphenation settings then the checkbox should present the way it does now, but if you hit the checkbox so that both paragraphs now use hyphenation and create a third paragraph inbetween the two previous ones it better inherit that setting and not turn off hyphenation for the new paragraph (unless of course there's a defined next paragraph style that switches to a style with hyphenation turned off). And if that checkbox said “Hyphenate all paragraphs” instead, then I would expect it to do just that, and not just the selected ones, and not just the current paragraphs but quite literally all paragraphs even newly created ones – otherwise it doesn't do what it says it does, and simply shouldn't be labeled that way.
And seriously bad interface design aside, you'd have to rename “All spots to process” to “Switch all currently displayed spot swatches listed in the table above to process” to actually describe what that checkbox does. So even if you're a fan of the current functionality, as opposed to one that actually lets the user set and forget a setting like that, and think it's better that users manually check it repeatedly (which I'm not saying that you are, but you're not giving me any feedback suggesting you even see my point of view with any of this, so what do I know?), then why wouldn't you still support an interface that visually matches/signals that functionality better? If it's a “Select all” checkbox supplementing a table containing a column of checkboxes, then present it that way. Don't put it at the bottom of the window next to another checkbox that works just like a regular checkbox and label it “All spots to process” – because that way you are signalling a different behavior.
Seriously, if I was to do design using the same mentality that Adobe uses when designing their user interfaces it wouldn't be long before I lost all clients. There's a lot to be said for de facto monopolies, I suppose. Oh no, there's nothing wrong with the design, just as long as you accept it on it's own terms and don't compare it to anything relevant, and just as long as you give people enough time to understand and accept it … and surrender to it.
For real … I wouldn't win one single pitch that way.
Today's threads have in many ways been a thorough reminder of the following quote from the second link I provided:
Is there an Internet rule yet stating that even the most obviously indefensible mistake will eventually be defended by someone somewhere? Awful marketing efforts get explained as genius viral campaigns, broken features become solutions.
And whether or not you're able to see my point of view or not is really besides the point too.
The real point was, and remains to be:
That for those who receive lots of ads or other external files that may or may not contain spot colors it would be far more useful to be able to set a checkbox to always convert all spots to process when exporting, than the current functionality is (and I'm not suggesting eliminating the current functionality, just change so it's presented like what it really is, and then just let that separate checkbox do what it says) … causing unnecessary manual action on the user's behalf shouldn't be the business of Adobe – preventing it should.
And here's further reading on the subject of bad Adobe interface design for those who might feel so inclined. ;-)
Cheers!

Process Color to Spot in a PDF??

Hello,
so I have a PDF file that is 100pages for example. This only has black text and nothing else. How can I convert this black process text to spot?? Not page by page such as in Illustrator but all pages together and then export again as PDF with the text in sport color. Thanks in advance!

1 - yes, you can do this with Preflight in Acrobat Pro, but it's not on the default set of fixups.
Open Preflight, select "Single fixups" - the wrench icon
Options > Create New Preflight Fixup
Give it a name (e.g. "process black to spot")
Choose the Color category in the upper right
Choose 'Convert to spot color' in the upper left
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Define the spot color to change this color into, and the alternative space for rendering (i.e. your blue color)
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Click OK to save the fixup, then click FIX to apply it. To verify the result, use the Output Preview dialog in Acrobat.

How do I convert a process color back to spot?

I have a file submitted to me that has been mangled by another designer. A PANTONE named spot color has been changed to a process color in the Swatches panel. When I try to change it back to "spot", a pop up window appears to say "Cannot edit this color property".
Are there any suggestions to get this to spot?
I've gone through the placed EPS/AI/PDF files to make sure that the named color in those are truly the spot color and not a process color.
I'm using ID CS 5.5.

Add the proper spot color and delete the process one.
You’ll be prompted to replace objects with the process color. Choose the spot.
Bob

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Finding spot color and process color

Dear all,
I used the following code to find the spot color used in the document.
var length=app.activeDocument.spots.length;
for(i=0;i<length;i++){
alert(app.activeDocument.spots[i].color);
It is showing CMYK Color as the output.
Can anyone tell me wheather it is a correct output.I want to identify all the spot color in the current active document.
Also please help me finding out the Process color used in the document.What is the diffence between these two ?
Regards,
Sanat

Sanat,
Even if a color is Spot, it still has to have CMYK or RGB values (depending on the color mode of the document) to tell Illustrator what color to display it as.
Beyond that, though, you're going to run into another problem anyway: Any Swatch that is defined as Global is going to be counted as a Spot Color. (I've been complaining about this for years.)
For example:
var docRef=app.activeDocument;
var count=docRef.spots.length;
alert(count);
for(i=0;i<count;i++){
alert(docRef.spots[i].name);
Run that in a CMYK document in which you have removed all unused palette items. You'll find that it returns [Registration] as a spot color, just because it's set to Global. Now doubleClick the Black Swatch. Set it to Global (but not Spot). The sript will tell you there are two Spot colors.
JET

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I work in prepress. I have an Illustrator CS6 file that is made up of 3 Pantone Spot colors. I save the file as an eps from Illustrator and rip the file with our prepress software. When previewing the ripped file with our prepress software it shows me that I have process colors (CMYK) somewhere in the file. I can not see these colors visually in the ripped file so I go back to Illustrator to see if I can edit them out of the file. I use the Preview Separations tool but can't find those process colors anywhere. There are no placed images, everything is vector art. I double check any white color and make sure it doesn't have any tiny percentage of process color in it. I make sure my spot colors are indeed spot colors and not process colors. I add used colors, I delete unused colors. I can't find the CMYK being used anywhere in my Illustrator file. Any thoughts on how to clean up these "hidden" colors? This was also a problem in CS3. I'm using an iMac 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5, Mac OS X, Version 10.7.5 Thanks for any help!

I've done all you said, John, but still get the process colors appearing, just not visible. It could be a rip problem; it only happens ocassionally. I am able to exclude the unwanted colors when I rip the file but I was hoping to clear them from the start in Illustrator. It doesn't help that the Preview Separations tool ALWAYS includes the CMYK process colors even if there aren't any being used in the file. I wish Adobe would change that. Anyways, I'll continure on... I appreciate the help and if anyone else has any ideas, please feel free to add them.

Packaging shows 4 process color when there is none

My packaging shows 4 process inks even though there is only a black and white image. My pdf image was first saved as a grayscale. When that didn't work, I converted it to a Gray Gamma 2.2 Grayscale in Acrobat and "saved as" my image. It still shows up as a 4 process color. Interestingly, when I check separations, it shows up as only black.
To check my InDesign, I completely removed everything from the document and left a blank page. The packaging still shows 4 color process.
Verified in Ink Manager that Convert Spot to Process is not checked.
Is there anything else I need to check?

No, but undo the Gray Gamma 2.2. I am not familair with the result, and may be appended, but it is not necessary.
There will always be the CMY channels listed in Adobe Products; you correctly verified only black is in use via the Seperations Preview.
InDesign package always lists cmyk inks.

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