Spread Previews in Bridge

I posted a comment/rant about an InDesign feature that was taken away in CS5 in a discussion that focuses soley on Photoshop (See below.) I didn't realize I had done that until today, so I'm reposting it with the hope that someone on the InDesign team at Adobe will read it. The feature that was eliminated was the ability to preview InDesign spreads in Bridge.
I now realize this issue was caused by a change to InDesign and not Bridge as I first thought. I also no longer feel those responsible for making the change should be fired. However, taking a long time out should be considered. Wait, I take that back. This problem wasn't fixed in CS6, so I'm leaning towards my original suggestion.
The original thread: http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/viewing_indesign_spread_thumbnails_i n_bridge?utm_content=topic_link&utm_medium=email&utm_source=reply_notification
My original post:
I'm beyond frustrated with Adobe because of this issue. The person(s) who decided to eliminate this feature in CS5/CS5.5 should be fired. Seriously. I realize this is most likely a Bridge issue and not an InDesign one, but these two applications used to work side by side in a way that I, a catalog designer, found extremely useful. I always thought the intention of updating software (and not inexpensive software, I might add) meant new, useful features were being added, not eliminated. I hear Quark is making a comeback. If Adobe keeps selling me downgrades marketed as upgrades, I might have to jump ship.
http://getsatisfaction.com/photoshop_family/topics/viewing_indesign_spread_thumbnails_in_b ridge

We just started testing Cs6 and are finding out the hard way that there is no spread preview in Bridge.. Did you find a work around?
We are a small publisher and use bridge to be able to count pages, see what is finished and not.. and to speed up general layout of the magazine..
I guess we are going to have to go back to Cs4.. because this really bites.. I notice some one said somewhere about a plugin Sneakpreview.. but i have not been able to find it.. Oh we are still working on Win xp pro..

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