Spry Menu Bar problem in IE

I am using a spry menu bar, which looks perfect in firefox, but in IE (version 6.0) I cannot get the font right for when an item on the menu bar has been visited. The font should stay white, but goes to a light purple colour which is hard to read. The site is www.binscombe.net and the CSS code is below. Any help really appreciated.
Many thanks,
Martin Brunet
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
    float: none;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 11pt;
    position: relative;
    text-align: left;
    cursor: pointer;
    float: left;
    background-color: #716BA3;
    font-family: Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif;
    color: #FFF;
    width: white-space
: now;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 11pt;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
    color: #FFF;
    border-right-width: 2px;
    border-right-style: groove;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    float: none;
    background-color: transparent;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
    border-right-style: none;
    border-top-style: none;
    border-bottom-style: none;
    border-left-style: none;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border-right-width: 2px;
    border-top-style: none;
    border-right-style: groove;
    border-bottom-style: none;
    border-left-style: none;
    border-top-color: #CCC;
    border-right-color: #CCC;
    border-bottom-color: #CCC;
    border-left-color: #CCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #716BA3;
    color: #FFF;
    text-decoration: none;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: bold;
    border-right-style: groove;
    border-right-color: #006;
    padding-top: 0.5em;
    padding-right: 0.75em;
    padding-left: 0.75em;
    padding-bottom: 0.6em;
    border-right-width: 2px;
    list-style-type: none;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus or visited have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:visited
    background-color: #716BA3;
    color: #FFF;
    font-weight: bold;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    background-color: #006;
    color: #FFF;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);*/
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
    background-color: #716BA3;
    color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;
#Comment_label {
    font-weight: bold;
    color: #FFF;ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:visited {
    /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    /*background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;
#Comment_label {
    font-weight: bold;
    color: #FFF;}

Hi mjw133,
There is already a topic about this problem
here.
You can also check out this
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            <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202011/2010%20Defense%20Stats%20Final.pdf">Defense Stats</a></li>
            <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202011/2010%20Stats%20Packet.pdf">Record Book and Offense</a></li>
            <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202011/2010%20ALL%20TIME.pdf">Alltime Data</a></li>
          </ul>
        </li>
      </ul>
    </div>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"><img src="images/Batavia Youth football.png" alt="" width="869" height="200" /></p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"><a href="#" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image4','','images/WebConfroll.png',1)"></a></p>
    <div align="center">
      <div align="center"></div>
      <div align="center"><a href="http://www.athletics2000.com/upstate8/" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image7','','images/WebConfroll.png',1)"><img src="images/WebConf.png" name="Image7" width="206" height="194" border="0" id="Image7" /></a><a href="http://www.bataviayouthfootball.org/" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image6','','images/statefbsweatshirt.png',1)"><img src="images/statefbsweatshirt.jpg" name="Image6" width="375" height="199" border="0" id="Image6" /></a><a href="http://www.bataviayouthfootball.org/" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image8','','images/youthfootballroll.png',1)"><img src="images/youth football.png" name="Image8" width="329" height="197" border="0" id="Image8" /></a></div>
    </div>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"><a href="#" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image5','','images/youthfootballroll.png',1)"></a></p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"><img src="images/Logos.png" width="1167" height="199" /></p>
    <script type="text/javascript">
    var MenuBar2 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar2", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
    var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
    </script>
    @charset "UTF-8";
    /* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
    /* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
    LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
    /* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal
        margin: auto 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        cursor: default;
        width: 54em;
        border-top: thick solid #00F;
        border-left: thick solid #00F;
        border-right: thick solid #00F;
        border-bottom: thick solid #00F;
        height: 2.2em;
    /* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
    ul.MenuBarActive
        z-index: 1000;
    /* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        position: relative;
        cursor: pointer;
        width: 18em;
        float: left;
    /* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        z-index: 1020;
        cursor: default;
        width: 18em;
        position: absolute;
        left: -1000em;
    /* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        left: auto;
    /* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
        width: 18em;
    /* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
        position: absolute;
        margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
    /* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        left: auto;
        top: 0;
    DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
    /* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
        border: 1px solid #CCC;
    /* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
        display: block;
        cursor: pointer;
        background-color: #000;
        padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
        color: #C96;
        text-decoration: none;
        text-align: center;
        height: 1.2em;
    /* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
        background-color: #900;
        color: #009;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        background-color: #900;
        color: #FFF;
        text-decoration: underline;
    SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
        background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
        color: #FF0;
        font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace;
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
        background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
        background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
        background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
    /* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
        position: absolute;
        z-index: 1010;
        filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
        ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
            display: inline;
            f\loat: left;
            background: #FFF;
    DON'T GIVE UP ON ME. PLEASE.

  • Spry Menu Bar Positioning Problem in IE

    I have a Dreamweaver-created Spry Menu Bar drop down menu which works perfectly in every browser on my Mac and on my PC . . . EXCEPT Internet Explorer (who woulda thunk it?!!)
    In all browsers except for IE, the 3 submenu items under "Door Systems" and "Gallery" appear exactly as they should in a vertical row, positioned just below the brown line below the navigation links and all the same width. But in IE they appear higher up and with different widths. IE is ignoring the rules for width and position.
      <ul id="MenuBar2" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
        <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="closet_doors_gallery.html">DOOR SYSTEMS</a>
          <ul>
            <li><a href="sliding_doors_nyc_nj.html">DOOR PROFILES</a></li>
            <li><a href="bifold_doors_nyc_nj.html">PANELS COLORS</a></li>
            <li><a href="room_dividers_nyc_nj.html">DOOR SYSTEM TYPES</a></li>
          </ul>
        </li>
      </ul>
    <ul id="MenuBar3" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
        <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">GALLERY </a>
          <ul>
            <li><a href="#">SLIDING DOORS</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">BI-FOLD DOORS</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">ROOM DIVIDERS</a></li>
          </ul>
        </li>
      </ul>
    Here is the page where you can see the problem if you view it with IE, and see that it's  fine in Safari, and Firefox,    Chrome and Opera, Mac or PC:
    http://2113web.com/indeco/index.html
    I have a feeling it's a simple fix of the css, but I can't figure it out - I would really appreciate anyone's help with it - thank you!
    Below is the CSS:
    @charset "UTF-8";
    /* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
    /* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
    LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
    /* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        font-weight:bold;
        cursor: default;
        width: auto;
    /* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
    ul.MenuBarActive
        z-index: 1000;
    /* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        position: relative;
        text-align: left;
        cursor: pointer;
        width: auto;
        float: left;
        white-space: nowrap;
    /* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        z-index: 1020;
        cursor: default;
        width: auto;
        position: absolute;
        left: -1000em;
    /* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        left: auto;
        top: 63px; /*THIS POSITIONS THE SUBMENU BELOW THE TOP MENU*/
    /* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
        float: none;
        background-color:#f5f5e8;
        height:25px; /*THIS POSITIONS THE SUBMENUS HEIGHT*/
    /* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
        position: absolute;
        margin-top: -5%;
        margin-right: 0;
        margin-bottom: 0;
        margin-left: 95%;
    /* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        left: auto;
        top: 0;
    DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
    /* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
        border:none;
    /* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
        display: block;
        cursor: pointer;
        background-color: transparent;
        padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
        color: #59330d;
        text-decoration: none;
    /* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #afa06f;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #afa06f;
    SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
        background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
        background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
        background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%)
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
        background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
        background-repeat: no-repeat;
        background-position: 95% 50%;
    BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
    /* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
        position: absolute;
        z-index: 1010;
        filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
        ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
            display: inline;
            f\loat: left;
            background: #FFF;
    Perry

    Hi and thank you very much. It was a little confusing as to whether you meant to add the rules you suggested or to replace them, or a combination of both, but I puzzled it out. I created a new MenuBarHorizontal.css file in a blank page and then made the changes you suggested and it works! Yay! I had to do a bit of tweaking to get it to look just the way I wanted, but it now works correctly in ie 7 and 8 and still works fine in everything else.
    Interestingly enough, I had to change the margin-top: 63px; rule in "ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible" to 40px to get it positioned properly vertically, and I had to get rid of the "border-bottom: solid 1px #EEE;" in "ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li", which caused the submenu items to have quite a lot of vertical space between them - I'm not sure why!
    I also had to get rid of all the syling rules in the "SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item" section, as well as the one you added: "ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu {
        padding: 0.5em 2em 0.5em 0.75em;"
    With that done, it works great in both ie7 and ie8, so thank you for the help. Below is the new css that works, in total.
    Not being as familiar with the subtleties of CSS as you and many others obviously are, I'm REALLY curious as to exactly what is different that causes this to work now, and would be happy to hear your expanation, if you feel like taking the time to explain. If not, no problem - it works and that is the most important thing! So, thank you again -
    Perry
    @charset "UTF-8";
    /* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
    /* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
    LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
    /* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        cursor: default;
        width: auto;
    /* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
    ul.MenuBarActive
        z-index: 1000;
    /* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        position: relative;
        text-align: left;
        cursor: pointer;
        width: auto;
        float: left;
    /* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
        font-size: 100%;
        z-index: 1020;
        cursor: default;
        width: auto;
        position: absolute;
        left: -1000em;
    /* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        left: auto;
        margin-top: 40px;
    /* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
        display: block;
        float: none !important;
        width: auto;
        white-space: nowrap;
    /* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
        position: absolute;
        margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
    /* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
        left: auto;
        top: 0;
    DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
    /* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
        border: 1px solid #CCC;
    /* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
        display: block;
        cursor: pointer;
        background-color: #f5f5e8;
        padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
        color: #333;
        text-decoration: none;
    /* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
          background-color: #f5f5e8;
        color: #afa06f;
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
          background-color: #f5f5e8;
        color: #afa06f;
    SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    /* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    /* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
    /* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
        position: absolute;
        z-index: 1010;
        filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
        background: transparent;
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
        ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
            display: inline;
            f\loat: left;
            background: #FFF;

  • Spry Menu Bar 2.0 (1.0) - Handling of widget generated CSS, placement and rendering problems in CSS

    Hello:
    I wanted to repost my question to re-frame the issue based on what I have learned thus far.
    I am working on a website that has been developed using the Spry Menu Bar Framework UI (2.0) I.0, that has some peculiar rendering problems that affect IE 6 in particular.  The CSS is reprinted below.
    In particular, when I post the widget generated CSS in the head as it is orginally situated by the framework, the menu bar works fine.  However, it seemed to me that I should be able to reduce page weight (an important consideration considering my target population) by placing it in the general style sheet governing the entire site.
    When I place the styles at the beginning of the style sheet the menu doesn't render at all in any of the browsers (IE 6+, Firefox, Opera, Safari, Netscape, etc.) as it conflicts with the general rules governing links that appear later in the style sheet.  When I place the styles specific to the Menu bar at the end of the style sheet, then the menu bar renders properly in all browsers except IE 6.
    The odd thing is that the only way to ensure that the menu bar works in IE 6 is to keep the menu related styles in the head of each page.  This raises problems related to page weight (not an insurmountable consideration if no other solution can be found) but still an issue.  Likewise I need to support IE 6, again given the target audience/population.  The issue obviously has something to do with specificity, but I am not certain that is the only consideration at work here.  I have not tried the !important selector in regard to the menu, as IE 6 seems to only partially support this.
    Thanks in advance for any advice or insight that can be provided.  Thanks in particular to Martin for his contributions to my earlier question related to this issue.
    Steve Webster.
    The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows:  (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
    <style type="text/css">
    /*  -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles --  */
    /* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
    /* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
       these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
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       .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
        .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
       You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
        They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
            MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
            MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
            MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned. 
            MenuBarFixedCentered -  - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                            and centered in its parent container.
            MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
        In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
       with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
        there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
    #MenuBar  {
        background-color:transparent;
       font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                    MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                    at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                    Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                    so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                    100% on submenu fonts. */
        font-weight: normal;
        font-size: 17px;
        font-style: normal;
        padding:0;
    /* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
    widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
    in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
    .MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
        display:none;
    .MenuBarLeftShrink {
        float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarRightShrink {
        float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarFixedLeft {
        float: left;
        width: 80em;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered {
        float: none;
        width: 80em;
        margin-left:auto;
        margin-right:auto;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered br {
        clear:both;
        display:block;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
        display:none;
    .MenuBarFullwidth {
        float: left;
        width: 100%;
    /* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemContainer {
        padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
        margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin  on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                    For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                    or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                    Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem {
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
        background-color:#000088;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;       
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:center;
        line-height:1.4em;
        color:#ffffff;
        background-color:transparent;
        padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
        width: 10em;
        width:auto;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
    /* First level submenu items */
    #MenuBar .SubMenu  .MenuItem {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-weight: bold;
        font-size: 15px;
        font-style: normal;
        background-color:#000088;
        padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
        border-width:0px;
        border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
        /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
        border-style: solid solid none solid;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none;
        padding: 0px;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-top: 0px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-bottom: 10px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:left;
        line-height:1em;   
        background-color:transparent;
        color:#ffffff;
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
        width: 240px;
    /* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
        background-color: #2E35A3;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
        background-color:#2E35A3;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    /* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
    #MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
       min-width:0%;  /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
        top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
        left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                        and your personal taste.
                       0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                        on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                        menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                        the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
        z-index:10;
    #MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
        top: 0px;   
        left:100%;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
    /* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
    #MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
        top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                    that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                    vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
        left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                    negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                    to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
    /* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
    /* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
    * Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
    * giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
    * Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
    * all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
    * problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
    * Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
    * syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
    * it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
    * So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule.  We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
    * mistakenly override, making sure the  misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
    * We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
    * the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
    * css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
    * If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
    * The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu  /* IE6 selector  */{
        margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
    /* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
    /* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
    </style>
    The CSS governing the site generally is reproduced below:  (my belief is that it is the a:link, a:visited,  a:hover, a:active styles that may be in conflict).
    @charset "utf-8";
    body  {
        font: 100% Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
       min-height: 0; /* This is necessary to overcome the "haslayout" bugthat is found in Windows 7 in conjuction with IE8.  For Moreinformation see: URL -- http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/haslayout.html */
        margin: 0; /* it's good practice to zero the margin and padding of the body element to account for differing browser defaults */
        padding: 0;
        text-align:center; /* This allows for the centering of the container and overcomes a bug inherent in IE 5 */
        color: #000000;
        list-style-image: none;
        background-color: #FCFCFC;
    h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
    color:#000066;
    a:link {
        color: #151A96;
        text-decoration: underline;
    a:visited {
        text-decoration: underline;
        color: #1B8DCD;
    a:hover {
        text-decoration: none;
        color: #F30A0A;
    a:active {
        text-decoration: underline;
        color: #151A96;
    #container {
        width: 960px;   
        margin: 0 auto; /* the auto margins (in conjunction with a width) center the page */
        text-align: left; /* this overrides the text-align: center on the body element. */
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Midsection %20_960.png);
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
    #header {
           padding: 0;  /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elementsin the divs that appear beneath it. If an image is used in the #headerinstead of text, you may want to remove the padding. */
            width:960px;
            height:332px;
            background-image:
            url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Header_960 .png);
            background-repeat:no-repeat;
    #header h1 {
        margin-right: 0px; /* zeroing the margin of the last element in the #header div will avoid margin collapse - an unexplainable space between divs. If the div has a border around it, this is not necessary as that also avoids the margin collapse */
        padding: 0; /* using padding instead of margin will allow you to keep the element away from the edges of the div */
        display:none;
    #header img {
        display: none;
    #Main_nav_contents {
        padding: 0;
        margin-top: 0px;
        height: 39px;
        width: 950px;       
        padding-top: 275px; 
        padding-left: 39px;
        z-index: 3; 
    #MenuBarVertical {
        margin-bottom: 50px;
        padding-top: 50px;
        padding-bottom:200px;
        padding-left: 15px;
        padding-right: 15px;
    .mainContent_left {
       margin: 0;/* the right margin on this div element creates the columndown the right side of the page - no matter how much content thesidebar1 div contains, the column space will remain. You can removethis margin if you want the #mainContent div's text to fill the#sidebar1 space when the content in #sidebar1 ends. */
        padding-left:30px;
        padding-right:20px; /* remember that padding is the space inside the div box and margin is the space outside the div box */
        width: 600px;
        float: left;
    .sidebar_right {
        float: right; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
        width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
        margin-top: 30px;
        margin-left:0;
        margin-right:10px;
        font-size:90%;
    .mainContent_right {
        margin-left: 10px;
        padding-left:30px;
        padding-right:20px;
        width: 600px;
        float: right;
    .sidebar_left {
        float: left; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
        width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
        margin-top: 30px;
        margin-left:30px;
        margin-right:0;
        overflow: hidden;
        font-size:90%;
    .main_content_centered {
        width: 650px;
        margin-left: 155px;
    .main_content_centered_header {
        margin-left: 75px;
    .sidebar_textbox {
        margin: 0px;   
        width: 260px;
        padding: 2px;
    .sidebar_textbox_header {
        width:255px;
        height:58px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Header.png);
    .sidebar_textbox_background_middle {
         width: 255px;   
        padding-top: 12px;   
        padding-bottom: 10px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
    .sidebar_textbox_content {
       /* The width and padding are set as follows to accomodate quirks inbrowser rendering and to ensure that text is contained within thebackground of the text box */
        width: 230px;
        padding-left: 20px;
        padding-right: 40px;
    .sidebar_textbox_footer {
        width:255px;
        height:64px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Port rait%20Textbox%20Footer.png);
    #issues_menu a:link {
        color: #151A96;
        text-decoration: none;
        font-weight:bold;
    #issues_menu a:visited {
        color: #151A96;
        font-weight:bold;
        text-decoration: none;
    #issues_menu a:hover {   
        color: #F30A0A;
        font-weight:bold;
        font-style: oblique;
        text-decoration: none;
    #issues_menu a:active {
        color: #151A96;
        font-weight:bold;
        text-decoration: none;
    #archives {
        padding-top: 15px;
        padding-right: 15px;
        padding-bottom: 20px;
        padding-left: 0px;
    .landscape_textbox {
        width: 500px;
        margin-right: 0px;
        margin-left: 30px;
        padding-top:35px;
        padding-bottom: 25px;
        font-style: normal;
        font-weight: normal;
    .landscape_textbox_hdr {
        width:500px;
        height:38px;
        margin:auto;
        padding:0;
        background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%2 0Header.png);
    .landscape_textbox_middle {
        width:auto;
        margin:auto;
        padding-top: 12px;
        padding-bottom: 12px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/lan dscapte%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-y;
    .landscape_textbox_content {
        width:450px;
        padding:25px;
    .landscape_textbox_ftr {
        width:500px;
        height:44px;
        margin:auto;
        padding:0;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Lan dscape%20Textbox%20Footer.png);
    #footer {
        padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear above it. */
        width: 960px;
        height: 222px;
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Footer%20_ 960.png);
        background-repeat:no-repeat;
    #footer p {
       margin: 0px; /* zeroing the margins of the first element in the footerwill avoid the possibility of margin collapse - a space between divs */
        padding:0px; /* padding on this element will create space, just as the the margin would have, without the margin collapse issue */
        text-align:center;
        margin-left: 50px;
        margin-right: 50px;
        padding: 10px;
        font-size: small;
    #footer h5 {
    text-align:center;
    .fltrt { /* this class can be used to float an element right in your page. The floated element must precede the element it should be next to on the page. */
        float: right;
        margin-left: 8px;
    .fltlft { /* this class can be used to float an element left in your page */
        float: left;
        margin-right: 8px;
    .clearfloat { /* this class should be placed on a div or break element and should be the final element before the close of a container that should fully contain a float */
        clear:both;
        height:0;
        font-size: 1px;
        line-height: 0px;
    .dropcap {
        display: block;
        float: left;
        line-height: 80%;
        font-size: 250%;
        font-weight: bolder;
        color: #000066;   
        padding: .03em .1em 0 0;
    .red_arrows {
        list-style-position: outside;
        list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Arrow%20Large.png);    
    .blue_bullets {
        list-style-position: outside;
        list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Bullet%20Medium%20Fu ll.png);   
    .attention {
        color: #F30A0A;
        font-size:x-large;
        font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
        font-style: italic;
        font-weight:900;
    .attention_small {
        color: #F30A0A;
        font-size:large;
        font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
        font-style: italic;
        font-weight:900;
    .table {
        table-layout:fixed;
    .blue {
        color: #00F;
    #container .mainContent_left p .blue {
        color: #0303A0;

    Hi Nancy:
    The specific code that I am referring to is the CSS code governing the styling of the spry menu widget that only works in IE 6 if, and only if, it remains in the head of the web page.  If removed and placed in a stylesheet, the IE plugins fail to compensate for the IE 6 "gap" bug.  As I said, it doesn't make sense to me that, assuming specificity is addressed, that these can not be included in an external style sheet.  I am looking for a) an explanation why they must remain embedded in the web page; and 2) any means by which I might be able to export them.
    I will reproduce the specific css style (code) below:  it should also be visable through reveal source --
    Thanks again, Steve Webster.
    The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows:  (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
    <style type="text/css">
    /*  -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles --  */
    /* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
    /* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
       these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
         These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
       .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
        .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
       You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
        They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
            MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
            MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
            MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned. 
            MenuBarFixedCentered -  - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                            and centered in its parent container.
            MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
        In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
       with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
        there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
    #MenuBar  {
        background-color:transparent;
       font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                    MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                    at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                    Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                    so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                    100% on submenu fonts. */
        font-weight: normal;
        font-size: 17px;
        font-style: normal;
        padding:0;
    /* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
    widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
    in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
    .MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
        display:none;
    .MenuBarLeftShrink {
        float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarRightShrink {
        float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarFixedLeft {
        float: left;
        width: 80em;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered {
        float: none;
        width: 80em;
        margin-left:auto;
        margin-right:auto;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered br {
        clear:both;
        display:block;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
        display:none;
    .MenuBarFullwidth {
        float: left;
        width: 100%;
    /* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemContainer {
        padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
        margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin  on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                    For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                    or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                    Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem {
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
        background-color:#000088;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;       
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:center;
        line-height:1.4em;
        color:#ffffff;
        background-color:transparent;
        padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
        width: 10em;
        width:auto;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
    /* First level submenu items */
    #MenuBar .SubMenu  .MenuItem {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-weight: bold;
        font-size: 15px;
        font-style: normal;
        background-color:#000088;
        padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
        border-width:0px;
        border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
        /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
        border-style: solid solid none solid;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none;
        padding: 0px;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-top: 0px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-bottom: 10px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:left;
        line-height:1em;   
        background-color:transparent;
        color:#ffffff;
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
        width: 240px;
    /* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
        background-color: #2E35A3;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
        background-color:#2E35A3;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    /* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
    #MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
       min-width:0%;  /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
        top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
        left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                        and your personal taste.
                       0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                        on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                        menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                        the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
        z-index:10;
    #MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
        top: 0px;   
        left:100%;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
    /* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
    #MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
        top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                    that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                    vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
        left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                    negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                    to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
    /* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
    /* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
    * Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
    * giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
    * Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
    * all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
    * problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
    * Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
    * syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
    * it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
    * So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule.  We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
    * mistakenly override, making sure the  misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
    * We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
    * the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
    * css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
    * If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
    * The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu  /* IE6 selector  */{
        margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
    /* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
    /* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
    </style>

  • Problem with Spry Menu Bar 2.0 (1.0) re - CSS

    Hello:
    I am having some difficulty with a Spry Menu Bar (horizontal) 2.0 (1.0)  that I have created.  Initially I thought the problem was with regard to rendering issues on IE 6.0, however the problem seems to be more general than that and I have come to believe that it has to do with the CSS created by the Widget Browser and modified once imported into the webpage.  Hence I have elected to post my issue here rather than on the spry page.
    I have relied on the tutorial provided by David Powers (Bayside.css) and in addition other documentation regarding the Spry menu bar UI.  The problem appeared to be one of IE 6 rendering the page with a gap that is created when the drop down menus appear, thus pushing down any divs that appear below the page.
    However, through a painstaking process of trial and error my problem now seems to be that when I export the CSS generated by the widget browser to an external style sheet (the general style sheet governing the whole site), it conflicts with other CSS styles regarding links etc.  The end result is that all the padding, background colours, background images, and text colours are lost.  So long as the CSS remains within the head this doesn't happen.
    My thinking is that this must have to do with issues of specificity, inheritence, etc.
    The site can be viewed at the following URL: http://www.aclco.org/testing/index.html.  In its current form all CSS related to the menu bar is found in the head of each page.  (see CSS below).
    My question is can I establish a separate style sheet for the horizontal menu bar and have those styles applied specifically (and only) to the menu bar.  My only other alternative is to work through the remainder of the general style sheet and work through any issues of specificity/inheritance -- which may be the "best" practice, but it risks causing other "cascading" [sic] problems elsewhere.
    Any advice or suggestions or directed reading (that would point to a solution) that could be offered would be greatly appreciated.
    Steve Webster
    The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows:  (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
    <style type="text/css">
    /*  -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles --  */
    /* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
    /* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
        these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or right pointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
         These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
        .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, all submenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
        .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
        You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top level menu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
        They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
            MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
            MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
            MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned. 
            MenuBarFixedCentered -  - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                            and centered in its parent container.
            MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
        In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
        with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets on the same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
        there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
    #MenuBar  {
        background-color:transparent;
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on on MenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                    MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                    at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                    Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                    so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                    100% on submenu fonts. */
        font-weight: normal;
        font-size: 17px;
        font-style: normal;
        padding:0;
    /* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
    widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
    in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
    .MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
        display:none;
    .MenuBarLeftShrink {
        float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarRightShrink {
        float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
        width: auto;
    .MenuBarFixedLeft {
        float: left;
        width: 80em;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered {
        float: none;
        width: 80em;
        margin-left:auto;
        margin-right:auto;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered br {
        clear:both;
        display:block;
    .MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
        display:none;
    .MenuBarFullwidth {
        float: left;
        width: 100%;
    /* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemContainer {
        padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
        margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin  on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                    For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                    or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                    Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem {
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
        background-color:#000088;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Navigation%20Bar%20Segm ent-Dark.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;       
    #MenuBar  .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:center;
        line-height:1.4em;
        color:#ffffff;
        background-color:transparent;
        padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
        width: 10em;
        width:auto;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar  .MenuItem  .MenuItemLabel{
        width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
    /* First level submenu items */
    #MenuBar .SubMenu  .MenuItem {
        font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-weight: bold;
        font-size: 15px;
        font-style: normal;
        background-color:#000088;
        padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
        border-width:0px;
        border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
        /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
        border-style: solid solid none solid;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
        border-style: none;
        padding: 0px;
    #MenuBar  .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-top: 0px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
        padding-bottom: 10px;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
        text-align:left;
        line-height:1em;   
        background-color:transparent;
        color:#ffffff;
        padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
        width: 240px;
    /* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
        background-color: #2E35A3;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Navigation%20Bar%20Segm ent%20Light2.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-x;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
        background-color:#2E35A3;
    #MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
        background-color: transparent;
        color: #ffffff;
    /* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
    #MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
        min-width:0%;  /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than the parent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
        border-style: none none none none;
    #MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
        top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
        left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                        and your personal taste.
                        0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of the MenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                        on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                        menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                        the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
        z-index:10;
    #MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
        top: 0px;   
        left:100%;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
    /* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
    #MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
        background-color: transparent;
        min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
        top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                    that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                    vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
        left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                    negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                    to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
    /* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
    /* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
    * Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element for selection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu" (MenuItemWithSubMenu),
    * giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
    * Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in a selector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6 ignores
    * all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets the specificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs as significant. To get around this
    * problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
    * Since there are a lot of these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes for modern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
    * syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
    * it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
    * So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule.  We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
    * mistakenly override, making sure the  misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
    * We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
    * the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
    * css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
    * If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these, as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js script.
    * The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by  the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser is Internet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditional comments for these rules.
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector  */{
        background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
        color: #ffffff;
    .SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu  /* IE6 selector  */{
        margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
    /* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
    /* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
    </style>
    The CSS governing the site generally is reproduced below:  (my belief is that it is the a:link, a:visited,  a:hover, a:active styles that may be in conflict).
    @charset "utf-8";
    body  {
        font: 100% Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
        min-height: 0; /* This is necessary to overcome the "haslayout" bug that is found in Windows 7 in conjuction with IE8.  For More information see: URL -- http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/haslayout.html */
        margin: 0; /* it's good practice to zero the margin and padding of the body element to account for differing browser defaults */
        padding: 0;
        text-align:center; /* This allows for the centering of the container and overcomes a bug inherent in IE 5 */
        color: #000000;
        list-style-image: none;
        background-color: #FCFCFC;
    h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
    color:#000066;
    a:link {
        color: #151A96;
        text-decoration: underline;
    a:visited {
        text-decoration: underline;
        color: #1B8DCD;
    a:hover {
        text-decoration: none;
        color: #F30A0A;
    a:active {
        text-decoration: underline;
        color: #151A96;
    #container {
        width: 960px;   
        margin: 0 auto; /* the auto margins (in conjunction with a width) center the page */
        text-align: left; /* this overrides the text-align: center on the body element. */
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Midsection%20_960.png);
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
    #header {
            padding: 0;  /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear beneath it. If an image is used in the #header instead of text, you may want to remove the padding. */
            width:960px;
            height:332px;
            background-image:
            url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Header_960.png);
            background-repeat:no-repeat;
    #header h1 {
        margin-right: 0px; /* zeroing the margin of the last element in the #header div will avoid margin collapse - an unexplainable space between divs. If the div has a border around it, this is not necessary as that also avoids the margin collapse */
        padding: 0; /* using padding instead of margin will allow you to keep the element away from the edges of the div */
        display:none;
    #header img {
        display: none;
    #Main_nav_contents {
        padding: 0;
        margin-top: 0px;
        height: 39px;
        width: 950px;       
        padding-top: 275px; 
        padding-left: 39px;
        z-index: 3; 
    #MenuBarVertical {
        margin-bottom: 50px;
        padding-top: 50px;
        padding-bottom:200px;
        padding-left: 15px;
        padding-right: 15px;
    .mainContent_left {
        margin: 0;/* the right margin on this div element creates the column down the right side of the page - no matter how much content the sidebar1 div contains, the column space will remain. You can remove this margin if you want the #mainContent div's text to fill the #sidebar1 space when the content in #sidebar1 ends. */
        padding-left:30px;
        padding-right:20px; /* remember that padding is the space inside the div box and margin is the space outside the div box */
        width: 600px;
        float: left;
    .sidebar_right {
        float: right; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
        width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
        margin-top: 30px;
        margin-left:0;
        margin-right:10px;
        font-size:90%;
    .mainContent_right {
        margin-left: 10px;
        padding-left:30px;
        padding-right:20px;
        width: 600px;
        float: right;
    .sidebar_left {
        float: left; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
        width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
        margin-top: 30px;
        margin-left:30px;
        margin-right:0;
        overflow: hidden;
        font-size:90%;
    .main_content_centered {
        width: 650px;
        margin-left: 155px;
    .main_content_centered_header {
        margin-left: 75px;
    .sidebar_textbox {
        margin: 0px;   
        width: 260px;
        padding: 2px;
    .sidebar_textbox_header {
        width:255px;
        height:58px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20He ader.png);
    .sidebar_textbox_background_middle {
         width: 255px;   
        padding-top: 12px;   
        padding-bottom: 10px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20Mi ddle.png);
        background-repeat: repeat-y;
    .sidebar_textbox_content {
        /* The width and padding are set as follows to accomodate quirks in browser rendering and to ensure that text is contained within the background of the text box */
        width: 230px;
        padding-left: 20px;
        padding-right: 40px;
    .sidebar_textbox_footer {
        width:255px;
        height:64px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20Foo ter.png);
    #issues_menu a:link {
        color: #151A96;
        text-decoration: none;
        font-weight:bold;
    #issues_menu a:visited {
        color: #151A96;
        font-weight:bold;
        text-decoration: none;
    #issues_menu a:hover {   
        color: #F30A0A;
        font-weight:bold;
        font-style: oblique;
        text-decoration: none;
    #issues_menu a:active {
        color: #151A96;
        font-weight:bold;
        text-decoration: none;
    #archives {
        padding-top: 15px;
        padding-right: 15px;
        padding-bottom: 20px;
        padding-left: 0px;
    .landscape_textbox {
        width: 500px;
        margin-right: 0px;
        margin-left: 30px;
        padding-top:35px;
        padding-bottom: 25px;
        font-style: normal;
        font-weight: normal;
    .landscape_textbox_hdr {
        width:500px;
        height:38px;
        margin:auto;
        padding:0;
        background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%20Header.png);
    .landscape_textbox_middle {
        width:auto;
        margin:auto;
        padding-top: 12px;
        padding-bottom: 12px;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/landscapte%20Textbox%20 Middle.png);
        background-repeat:repeat-y;
    .landscape_textbox_content {
        width:450px;
        padding:25px;
    .landscape_textbox_ftr {
        width:500px;
        height:44px;
        margin:auto;
        padding:0;
        background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%20F ooter.png);
    #footer {
        padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear above it. */
        width: 960px;
        height: 222px;
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Footer%20_960.png);
        background-repeat:no-repeat;
    #footer p {
        margin: 0px; /* zeroing the margins of the first element in the footer will avoid the possibility of margin collapse - a space between divs */
        padding:0px; /* padding on this element will create space, just as the the margin would have, without the margin collapse issue */
        text-align:center;
        margin-left: 50px;
        margin-right: 50px;
        padding: 10px;
        font-size: small;
    #footer h5 {
    text-align:center;
    .fltrt { /* this class can be used to float an element right in your page. The floated element must precede the element it should be next to on the page. */
        float: right;
        margin-left: 8px;
    .fltlft { /* this class can be used to float an element left in your page */
        float: left;
        margin-right: 8px;
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            <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
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        </li>
        <li><a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">[Placeholder]</a>
          <ul>
            <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
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            </li>
            <li><a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">2009 Videos</a>
              <ul>
                <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
                <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
              </ul>
            </li>
            <li><a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">2010 Videos</a>
              <ul>
                <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
                <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
              </ul>
            </li>
          </ul>
        </li>
      </ul>
    </div>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"><span class="cent"><img src="images/bulldoghelmit.png" width="150" height="99" /></span></p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p class="cent"> </p>
    <div align="center">
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            <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/BHS%20All%20Time%20Stats.pdf">AllTime Data</a></li>
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            <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202010/2009%20Banquet%20Record%20and%20Stats.pdf">Record Book and Offense</a></li>
            <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202010/All-Time%20Data%202009.pdf">Alltime Data</a></li>
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        </li>
        <li> <a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Football Season 2010</a>
          <ul>
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            <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202011/2010%20ALL%20TIME.pdf">Alltime Data</a></li>
          </ul>
        </li>
      </ul>
    </div>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
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    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
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    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"> </p>
    <p align="center"><img src="images/Logos.png" width="1167" height="199" /></p>
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    var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
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    CSS CODE
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    /* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
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        padding: 0;
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        font-size: 100%;
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        border-left: thick solid #00F;
        border-right: thick solid #00F;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
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        font-size: 100%;
        position: relative;
        cursor: pointer;
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        padding: 0;
        list-style-type: none;
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        z-index: 1020;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
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        position: absolute;
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        top: 0;
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    ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
        display: block;
        cursor: pointer;
        background-color: #000;
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        text-align: center;
        height: 1.2em;
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    Message was edited by: Zabeth69

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    I'm new to the spry tools and I need a little help. This is what I'm trying to accomplish in Dreamweaver CS4:
    I need 2 horizontal spry menu bars for navigation. I have created a div for each spry tool, 1 div placed above the other and they cross the entire width of the page. I have created the spry menu bars. Everything seems to be working correctly in both menu bars, That is until you open the IE browser, all other browsers tested fine. The problem is that when you hover over the bottom menu bar in IE, the drop down menu does not drop all the way down. The first submenu of the drop down menu covers the main menu bar. I have tried to change the css for the spry menu bar at the ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE to show the display: as inline and also tried block and niether had any effect. Someone please help. Thanks.
                        css spry drop down menu 1
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
              ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
              display: inline;
              f\loat: left;
              background: #FFF;
                       css   spry drop down menu 2
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
              ul.adminbarh li.MenuBarItemIE
              display: inline;
              f\loat: left;
              background: #FFF;
    This site is not yet live. If anyone is willing I can send an attachment of my complete spry CSS via email.  Contact me at [email protected]
    See what I got here. www.prospectingtreasures.com

    Hello Everyone,
    I'm new to the spry tools and I need a little help. This is what I'm trying to accomplish in Dreamweaver CS4:
    I need 2 horizontal spry menu bars for navigation. I have created a div for each spry tool, 1 div placed above the other and they cross the entire width of the page. I have created the spry menu bars. Everything seems to be working correctly in both menu bars, That is until you open the IE browser, all other browsers tested fine. The problem is that when you hover over the bottom menu bar in IE, the drop down menu does not drop all the way down. The first submenu of the drop down menu covers the main menu bar. I have tried to change the css for the spry menu bar at the ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE to show the display: as inline and also tried block and niether had any effect. Someone please help. Thanks.
                        css spry drop down menu 1
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
              ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
              display: inline;
              f\loat: left;
              background: #FFF;
                       css   spry drop down menu 2
    /* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
    @media screen, projection
              ul.adminbarh li.MenuBarItemIE
              display: inline;
              f\loat: left;
              background: #FFF;
    This site is not yet live. If anyone is willing I can send an attachment of my complete spry CSS via email.  Contact me at [email protected]
    See what I got here. www.prospectingtreasures.com

  • IE problems with vertical spry menu bar

    hi,
    first of all: I'm aware that this problem has been discussed
    before. but nothing I've found so far has really helped me.
    the problem is that my vertical spry menu bar doesn't work
    properly with the internet explorer. I've (clumsily) repositioned
    the submenu bars, but that didn't seem to be the main problem.
    I'm using dreamweaver cs3 on a mac and have checked for
    safari and firefox, in which everything works fine. I'd be very
    grateful if someone could have a look at
    www.philipbirau.com/portfolio.htm.
    unfortunatly, I have neither the skills nor the money for
    'professional' webdesign, so any hint will be appreciated. if you
    need more information, please let me know.
    thanks!
    philip

    hi,
    first of all: I'm aware that this problem has been discussed
    before. but nothing I've found so far has really helped me.
    the problem is that my vertical spry menu bar doesn't work
    properly with the internet explorer. I've (clumsily) repositioned
    the submenu bars, but that didn't seem to be the main problem.
    I'm using dreamweaver cs3 on a mac and have checked for
    safari and firefox, in which everything works fine. I'd be very
    grateful if someone could have a look at
    www.philipbirau.com/portfolio.htm.
    unfortunatly, I have neither the skills nor the money for
    'professional' webdesign, so any hint will be appreciated. if you
    need more information, please let me know.
    thanks!
    philip

  • Safari bold text causing problem with Spry Menu Bar

    I have made a web site using a Spry Menu bar. It worked fine across all browsers, as far as I knew. I was just alerted by th esite owner that the menu bar had the last link out of position when viewed in Safari. I'm not sure when this started happening. I notice the text in Safari is more bold than firefox or IE. My guess is that's the problem. I searched on google for help and found this
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    I tried that but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
    the site is here:
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  • Internet Explorer Problem with Spry Menu Bar

    http://www.cloud9industries.com/clients/jewelryworld/index4.html
    OK here we go
    #1) In IE, the toolbar doesn't appear with the same decreased
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    cloud9industries

    Hi,
    I took a look over your page and I noticed that you are using
    a very old spry version 1.4. The current released version is Spry
    1.6 and contains some major bug fixes for Menu Bar widget.
    Please update to this last Spry version. You can download the
    new files from
    here.
    The problem with the transparent background is an IE6 problem
    which doesn't support transparent backgrounds. This problem is
    fixed on IE7 and I check it and it works there.
    Please let us know if you still have problems with MenuBar
    after updating it to the new version
    Thanks,
    Diana

  • Problems with my spry menu bar, need help

    i made a spry menu bar, and it works on my computers at my house and my computers at school, but on other computers the home page menu bar is in the middle of the page (not on the left side) and on the other pages the menu bar submenus dont go out to the side of that button, its hard to explain but the "designs" button has a sub menu that is supposed to go out to the side of it but it goes out to the side at the top!.. please look at it for me...?
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