Spry Menu+Flash Content: Visibility Problem in IE

Hi, I created a web page with Dreamweaver CS3, and I put a
Spry Menu just over a Flash Banner. I set the wmode to transparent
and it works fine on all browser except for IE. It still doesn't
display the submenus which are hidden by the .swf file.
I read some articles but none explaining how to fix this
problem. Anybody knows how to solve it? Thanks for any help!
The code is here in case I made some mistakes:
<div id="FlashContent">
<script type="text/javascript">
AC_FL_RunContent( 'codebase','
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,28,0','wid th','700','height','160','title','Flash
Banner','src','images/flash/flash_banner','quality','high','pluginspage','
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash','wmod e','transparent','movie','images/flash/flash_banner'
); //end AC code
</script><noscript><object
classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=9,0,28,0"
width="700" height="160" title="Flash Banner">
<param name="movie" value="images/flash/flash_banner.swf"
/>
<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="wmode" value="opaque" />
<embed src="images/flash/flash_banner.swf" width="700"
height="160" quality="high" pluginspage="
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"
type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
wmode="transparent"></embed>
</object>
</noscript></div>

add this to the
@media screen, projection section of the css.
ul.MenuBarVertical li.MenuBarItemIE a and give it a fixed
height. That should fix it.

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display: inline;
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How can I give the same effect that happens in firefox, also
in IE 7 ?
Please test the link in both: IE 7 and Firefox.
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add this to the
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<ul class="TabbedPanelsTabGroup">
<li class="TabbedPanelsTab" onclick="TabbedPanels1.showPanel(0); window.location.hash='Olive_Groves' ;return false;"><a href="#">Olive Grove</a></li>
<li class="TabbedPanelsTab" onclick="TabbedPanels1.showPanel(0); window.location.hash='The_Harvest' ;return false;"><a href="#">Harvest</a></li>
<li class="TabbedPanelsTab" onclick="TabbedPanels1.showPanel(0); window.location.hash='Oil_Press' ;return false;"><a href="#">Oil Press</a></li>
<li class="TabbedPanelsTab" onclick="TabbedPanels1.showPanel(0); window.location.hash='Olive_Oil_Grades' ;return false;"><a href="#">Olive Oil Grades</a></li>
<li class="TabbedPanelsTab" onclick="TabbedPanels1.showPanel(0); window.location.hash='Health_and_Olive_Oil' ;return false;"><a href="#">Health and Olive Oil</a></li>
<li class="TabbedPanelsTab" onclick="TabbedPanels1.showPanel(0); window.location.hash='Preserving_Olive_Oil' ;return false;"><a href="#">Preserving Olive Oil</a></li>
<li class="TabbedPanelsTab" onclick="TabbedPanels1.showPanel(0); window.location.hash='Did_you_know!' ;return false;"><a href="#">Did you know!</a></li>
<li class="TabbedPanelsTab" onclick="TabbedPanels1.showPanel(0); window.location.hash='Greek_Olive_Oil' ;return false;"><a href="#">Greek Olive Oil</a></li>
</ul>
<div class="TabbedPanelsContentGroup">
<div class="TabbedPanelsContent" style="display:none;"><a id="Olive_Groves"></a>blablabla</div>
<div class="TabbedPanelsContent" style="display:none;"><a id="The_Harvest"></a> blablabla</div>
<div class="TabbedPanelsContent" style="display:none;"><a id="Oil_Press"></a>blablabla</div>
<div class="TabbedPanelsContent" style="display:none;"><a id="Olive_Oil_Grades"></a>blablabla</div>
<div class="TabbedPanelsContent" style="display:none;"><a id="Health_and_Olive_Oil">blablabla</a></div>
<div class="TabbedPanelsContent" style="display:none;"><a id="Preserving_Olive_Oil">blablabla</a></div>
<div class="TabbedPanelsContent" style="display:none;"><a id="Did_you_know!">blablabla</a></div>
<div class="TabbedPanelsContent" style="display:none;"><a id="Greek_Olive_Oil">blablabala</a></div>
</div>
</div>
I had applied the same code at the problematic area but the problem remains.
Is it possible to use CSS or something else to default the scroll bar on the top?
Thank you in advance,
Tom

Hello,
I have tried many solutions but yours is the best. I think it is a bug.
Have a nice day,
Tom

Spry Menu 2.0 issues in IE7..   yes another one!

I have CS4, and have used the widget browser to create a Spry Menu 2.0 and have imported it to my site. It displays fine in every browser except for IE7. I have been reading a LOT of threads on issues similiar to this one, so I'm prepared to tell everyone I know to upgrade to at least IE8!! However, I would like to fix it if possible. The menu bar is located in an include file and is attached to all my pages through the php function. I have made zero changes to the css code since I imported it into the site.
I also am wondering why there are two css pages for the menu bar.??
Any help would be appreciated..
One of the pages on the site is: michaelandrewshairstudio.com/offers.php
That page is: ( I have taken out some meta tags and content, but the div's are all still in place.) I also deleted some commented tags by accident when I imported it..
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Michael Andrews Hair Salon Offers</title>
<link href="Spry-UI-1.7/css/Menu/basic/SpryMenuBar.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<link href="Spry-UI-1.7/css/Menu/basic/SpryMenuBasic.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type='text/javascript' src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryDOMUtils.js"></script>
<script type='text/javascript' src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryDOMEffects.js"></script>
<script type='text/javascript' src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryWidget.js"></script>
<script type='text/javascript' src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryMenu.js"></script>
<script type='text/javascript' src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/plugins/MenuBar2/SpryMenuBarKeyNavigationPlugin.js"></script>
<script type='text/javascript' src="Spry-UI-1.7/includes/plugins/MenuBar2/SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js"></script>
<link href="CSS/stylesA.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>
<body>
<div id="outerwrapper">
<div id="header">
<div id="navbar">
<?php include("Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryMenuBar.php"); ?>
</div>
</div>
<div id="mainbody">
<div id="logo">
</div>
<hr />
<div id="content">
</div>
</div>
<div id="footer">
<div id="footernav">
</div>
<div id="footertext">
</div>
</div>
</div>
</body>
</html>
SpryMenuBar.css
#MenuBar {
background-color:#333;
font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on on MenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
            MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
            at a given level all use same definition for ems.
            Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
            so use caution in using relative sizes other than
            100% on submenu fonts. */
font-weight: normal;
font-size: 14px;
font-style: normal;
padding:0;
border-color: #999999 #999999 #999999 #999999;
border-width:3px;
border-style: outset outset outset outset;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
float: left;
width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
float: none;
width: 80em;
margin-left:auto;
margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
clear:both;
display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
float: left;
width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
margin: 0; /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
    For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
    or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
    Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
padding: 0px 24px 0px 0px;
background-color:#333333;
border-width:1px;
border-color: #cccccc #ffffff #cccccc #999999;
border-style: none none none solid;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
border-style: none none none solid;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
text-align:center;
line-height:1.4em;
color:#cccccc;
background-color:#333333;
padding: 6px 15px 6px 39px;
width: 10em;
width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
font-family: "Trebuchet MS", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-weight: normal;
font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal;
background-color:#666666;
padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
border-width:1px;
border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
/* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
padding-top: 6px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
border-style: solid solid solid solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
padding-bottom: 6px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
text-align:left;
line-height:1em;
background-color:#666666;
color:#cccccc;
padding: 6px 12px 6px 5px;
width: 7em;
width:auto;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
background-color: #333333;
border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-color: #333333; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-color: #333333;
color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
background-color: #666666;
border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-color: #666666;
color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
background-color:#333;
min-width:100%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than the parent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
border-color: #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff;
border-width:0px;
border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
top: 100%; /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
     and your personal taste.
     0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of the MenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
     on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
     menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
     the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
top: 0px;
left:100%;
min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
background-color: #ffffff;
min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
top: 0px; /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
    that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
    vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
    negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
    to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element for selection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu" (MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in a selector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6 ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets the specificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs as significant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lot of these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes for modern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these, as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js script.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser is Internet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditional comments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
background-color: #333333; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
background-color: #666666; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
SpryMenuBasic.css
/* SpryMenuBasic.css - version 0.5 - Spry Pre-Release 1.7 */
/* Copyright (c) 2010. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
/* This is the css for a basic Spry 2 MenuBar.
* The first section is basic layout, and should in general not need to be modified.
* The final section of this file specifies images to use for arrows for the menu. These
* are either down or right-pointing as required by horizonatal or vertical layouts. You
* can either replace the referenced images with your own, or you can modify these rules to
* point to your won images.
* These rules are supplemented by those specified in the OAM file for inclusion in the html document,
* or alternatively, the file SpryMenuBarBasicSkin.css which is included with this widget. */
/* Resets for ul and li in menus */
.MenuBar .MenuBarView, .MenuBar .SubMenuView {
display:block;
list-style:none;
margin:0;
padding:0;
/*** Layout Rules for Basic Menu ***/
/* Top Level MenuBar
* Because we float the MenuItemContainers in the MenuBar, we have to make sure the menubar wrapper expands to hold them all.
* The simplest way is to float the widget wrapper
.MenuBar { /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
float:left;
width:100%;
.MenuBarVertical {
float:left; /* Used to make menubar shirink to fit contents */
width:auto;
/* SubMenus */
.MenuBar .SubMenu {
display:block;
position:absolute;
top:0;
left:-10000px; /* By default, all non-visible submenus are hidden by moving way to the west */
padding:0;
/* First level of submenus - pulls down from horizontal menubar, right from vertical */
.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible{ /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
top:100%;
left:0px;
.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
top:0px;
left:100%;
/* All submenus below level 1. All pullout to the right */
.MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenuVisible {
display:block;
position:absolute;
top:0px;
left:100%;
/* MenuItems, MenuItemLabels, and MenuItemContainers */
.MenuBar .MenuItem {
display:block;
text-decoration:none;
.MenuBar .MenuItemLabel {
display:block;
.MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
position:relative;
white-space:nowrap;
float:left; /* overridden by .MenuBarVertical version of this rule */
display:block;
margin:0;
padding:0;
.MenuBarVertical .MenuItemContainer {
float:none;
.MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemContainer {
float:none;
/* Layout Rules needed by IE6 - excluded from other browsers */
.SpryIsIE6 .SubMenu .SubMenu {
width:100px;
height:1%;
.SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .SubMenuVisible .SubMenuVisible {
width:auto;
/* End Layout section */
* Arrows - This section specifies arrow images for a submenu dropdowns in Basic SpryMenu.
.MenuBar .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:none;
/* For all arrows used here, we depend upon the image to push itself away from right edge, or the user can add right padding to the MenuItem */
.MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDownGrey.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBar .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDownWhite.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBarVertical .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBarVertical .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover.MenuItemWithSubMenu .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
/* IE6 rules for Arrows */
.SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuDown.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.SpryIsIE6 .MenuBarVertical .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;
.SpryIsIE6 .MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel{
background-image:url("images/ArrowMenuRight.gif");
background-position:right center;
background-repeat:no-repeat;

I love your subject line
Spry Menu 2.0 issues in IE7..   yes another one!
It is us as designers/developers that need to create websites for all current browsers. No sense in blaming the browsers, although in this case we could blame Spry Menu 2.0.
Problem with that is that Spry Menu 2.0 has been successfully tested in all modern browsers.
This leaves us with just one possibility, the designer/developer has erred somewhere along the line. After having checked the support files (JS and CSS) and looked at the markup, we now go to the constructor and see the following
var MenuBar = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar2("#MenuBar", {
    widgetID: "MenuBar",
    widgetClass: "MenuBar MenuBarLeftShrink",
    insertMenuBarBreak: true,
A comma after the last value.
I also am wondering why there are two css pages for the menu bar.??
One is the standard CSS for the menubar and under normal circumstances, should not be touched; the other is for the convenience of the designer/developer so that he/she can tweak the menubar to suit. If you wish, you can combine both. In all cases, keep in mind that the CSS for the standard (basic) menubar should come first, so that the other CSS can override the first.
This needs to be corrected in your document
Gramps

Dreamweaver CS5 cannot access blue spry menu

Whenever I use a spry menu I have this problem where it is not possible to see the little blue menu bar that allows you to edit your menus.
WHY? I have searched forums, searched the internet but no answers. Okay I have seen other people ask the same problem but als their threads end with no solution. Sometimes it shows, mostly it doesn't
So please can someone help as to why I cannot see or access the little blue spry menu bar?
Cheers Dean

Thanks for the help.
I have created a new document and inserted a horizontal spry menu, I still have the same problem
Here is hopefully the code you require.
Thanks
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
<title>Untitled Document</title>
<style type="text/css">

</style>
<script src="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBar.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<link href="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
</head>
<body>
<div class="container">
<div class="header"><a href="#"><img src="" alt="Insert Logo Here" name="Insert_logo" width="180" height="90" id="Insert_logo" style="background: #C6D580; display:block;" /></a>
    </div>
<div class="sidebar1">
    <ul class="nav">
      <li><a href="#">Link one</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Link two</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Link three</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Link four</a></li>
    </ul>
    <p> The above links demonstrate a basic navigational structure using an unordered list styled with CSS. Use this as a starting point and modify the properties to produce your own unique look. If you require flyout menus, create your own using a Spry menu, a menu widget from Adobe's Exchange or a variety of other javascript or CSS solutions.</p>
    <p>If you would like the navigation along the top, simply move the ul.nav to the top of the page and recreate the styling.</p>
    </div>
<div class="content">
    <h1> </h1>
    <ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
      <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 1</a>
        <ul>
          <li><a href="#">Item 1.1</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Item 1.2</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Item 1.3</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 2</a></li>
      <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3</a>
        <ul>
          <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Item 3.1</a>
            <ul>
              <li><a href="#">Item 3.1.1</a></li>
              <li><a href="#">Item 3.1.2</a></li>
            </ul>
          </li>
          <li><a href="#">Item 3.2</a></li>
          <li><a href="#">Item 3.3</a></li>
        </ul>
      </li>
      <li><a href="#">Item 4</a></li>
    </ul>
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <h1> </h1>
    <h1> </h1>
    <h1>Instructions</h1>
    <p>Be aware that the CSS for these layouts is heavily commented. If you do most of your work in Design view, have a peek at the code to get tips on working with the CSS for the fixed layouts. You can remove these comments before you launch your site. To learn more about the techniques used in these CSS Layouts, read this article at Adobe's Developer Center - <a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/adc_css_layouts">http://www.adobe.com/go/adc_css_layouts</a>.</p>
    <h2>Clearing Method</h2>
    <p>Because all the columns are floated, this layout uses a clear:both declaration in the .footer rule. This clearing technique forces the .container to understand where the columns end in order to show any borders or background colors you place on the .container. If your design requires you to remove the .footer from the .container, you'll need to use a different clearing method. The most reliable will be to add a <br class="clearfloat" /> or <div class="clearfloat"></div> after your final floated column (but before the .container closes). This will have the same clearing effect.</p>
    <h3>Logo Replacement</h3>
    <p>An image placeholder was used in this layout in the .header where you'll likely want to place a logo. It is recommended that you remove the placeholder and replace it with your own linked logo. </p>
    <p> Be aware that if you use the Property inspector to navigate to your logo image using the SRC field (instead of removing and replacing the placeholder), you should remove the inline background and display properties. These inline styles are only used to make the logo placeholder show up in browsers for demonstration purposes. </p>
    <p>To remove the inline styles, make sure your CSS Styles panel is set to Current. Select the image, and in the Properties pane of the CSS Styles panel, right click and delete the display and background properties. (Of course, you can always go directly into the code and delete the inline styles from the image or placeholder there.)</p>
    <h4>Backgrounds</h4>
    <p>By nature, the background color on any div will only show for the length of the content. This means if you're using a background color or border to create the look of a side column, it won't extend all the way to the footer but will stop when the content ends. If the .content div will always contain more content, you can place a border on the .content div to divide it from the column.</p>
</div>
<div class="footer">
    <p>This .footer contains the declaration position:relative; to give Internet Explorer 6 hasLayout for the .footer and cause it to clear correctly. If you're not required to support IE6, you may remove it.</p>
    </div>
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
</script>
</body>
</html>

Spry Menu Bar 2.0 (1.0) - Handling of widget generated CSS, placement and rendering problems in CSS

Hello:
I wanted to repost my question to re-frame the issue based on what I have learned thus far.
I am working on a website that has been developed using the Spry Menu Bar Framework UI (2.0) I.0, that has some peculiar rendering problems that affect IE 6 in particular. The CSS is reprinted below.
In particular, when I post the widget generated CSS in the head as it is orginally situated by the framework, the menu bar works fine. However, it seemed to me that I should be able to reduce page weight (an important consideration considering my target population) by placing it in the general style sheet governing the entire site.
When I place the styles at the beginning of the style sheet the menu doesn't render at all in any of the browsers (IE 6+, Firefox, Opera, Safari, Netscape, etc.) as it conflicts with the general rules governing links that appear later in the style sheet. When I place the styles specific to the Menu bar at the end of the style sheet, then the menu bar renders properly in all browsers except IE 6.
The odd thing is that the only way to ensure that the menu bar works in IE 6 is to keep the menu related styles in the head of each page. This raises problems related to page weight (not an insurmountable consideration if no other solution can be found) but still an issue. Likewise I need to support IE 6, again given the target audience/population. The issue obviously has something to do with specificity, but I am not certain that is the only consideration at work here. I have not tried the !important selector in regard to the menu, as IE 6 seems to only partially support this.
Thanks in advance for any advice or insight that can be provided. Thanks in particular to Martin for his contributions to my earlier question related to this issue.
Steve Webster.
The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows: (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
<style type="text/css">
/* -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles -- */
/* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
/* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
   these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
     These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
   .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
    .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
   You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
    They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
        MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
        MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
        MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned.
        MenuBarFixedCentered - - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                        and centered in its parent container.
        MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
    In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
   with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
    there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
#MenuBar {
    background-color:transparent;
   font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 17px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 80em;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
    background-color:#000088;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#ffffff;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 15px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:#000088;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:0px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none;
    padding: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 10px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#ffffff;
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
    width: 240px;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #2E35A3;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color:#2E35A3;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
   min-width:0%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                    and your personal taste.
                   0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                    on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                    menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                    the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
/* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
/* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
</style>
The CSS governing the site generally is reproduced below: (my belief is that it is the a:link, a:visited, a:hover, a:active styles that may be in conflict).
@charset "utf-8";
body {
    font: 100% Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
   min-height: 0; /* This is necessary to overcome the "haslayout" bugthat is found in Windows 7 in conjuction with IE8. For Moreinformation see: URL -- http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/haslayout.html */
    margin: 0; /* it's good practice to zero the margin and padding of the body element to account for differing browser defaults */
    padding: 0;
    text-align:center; /* This allows for the centering of the container and overcomes a bug inherent in IE 5 */
    color: #000000;
    list-style-image: none;
    background-color: #FCFCFC;
h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
color:#000066;
a:link {
    color: #151A96;
    text-decoration: underline;
a:visited {
    text-decoration: underline;
    color: #1B8DCD;
a:hover {
    text-decoration: none;
    color: #F30A0A;
a:active {
    text-decoration: underline;
    color: #151A96;
#container {
    width: 960px;
    margin: 0 auto; /* the auto margins (in conjunction with a width) center the page */
    text-align: left; /* this overrides the text-align: center on the body element. */
    background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Midsection %20_960.png);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
#header {
       padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elementsin the divs that appear beneath it. If an image is used in the #headerinstead of text, you may want to remove the padding. */
        width:960px;
        height:332px;
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Header_960 .png);
        background-repeat:no-repeat;
#header h1 {
    margin-right: 0px; /* zeroing the margin of the last element in the #header div will avoid margin collapse - an unexplainable space between divs. If the div has a border around it, this is not necessary as that also avoids the margin collapse */
    padding: 0; /* using padding instead of margin will allow you to keep the element away from the edges of the div */
    display:none;
#header img {
    display: none;
#Main_nav_contents {
    padding: 0;
    margin-top: 0px;
    height: 39px;
    width: 950px;
    padding-top: 275px;
    padding-left: 39px;
    z-index: 3;
#MenuBarVertical {
    margin-bottom: 50px;
    padding-top: 50px;
    padding-bottom:200px;
    padding-left: 15px;
    padding-right: 15px;
.mainContent_left {
   margin: 0;/* the right margin on this div element creates the columndown the right side of the page - no matter how much content thesidebar1 div contains, the column space will remain. You can removethis margin if you want the #mainContent div's text to fill the#sidebar1 space when the content in #sidebar1 ends. */
    padding-left:30px;
    padding-right:20px; /* remember that padding is the space inside the div box and margin is the space outside the div box */
    width: 600px;
    float: left;
.sidebar_right {
    float: right; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
    width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
    margin-top: 30px;
    margin-left:0;
    margin-right:10px;
    font-size:90%;
.mainContent_right {
    margin-left: 10px;
    padding-left:30px;
    padding-right:20px;
    width: 600px;
    float: right;
.sidebar_left {
    float: left; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
    width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
    margin-top: 30px;
    margin-left:30px;
    margin-right:0;
    overflow: hidden;
    font-size:90%;
.main_content_centered {
    width: 650px;
    margin-left: 155px;
.main_content_centered_header {
    margin-left: 75px;
.sidebar_textbox {
    margin: 0px;
    width: 260px;
    padding: 2px;
.sidebar_textbox_header {
    width:255px;
    height:58px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Header.png);
.sidebar_textbox_background_middle {
     width: 255px;
    padding-top: 12px;
    padding-bottom: 10px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Por trait%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
.sidebar_textbox_content {
   /* The width and padding are set as follows to accomodate quirks inbrowser rendering and to ensure that text is contained within thebackground of the text box */
    width: 230px;
    padding-left: 20px;
    padding-right: 40px;
.sidebar_textbox_footer {
    width:255px;
    height:64px;
background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Port rait%20Textbox%20Footer.png);
#issues_menu a:link {
    color: #151A96;
    text-decoration: none;
    font-weight:bold;
#issues_menu a:visited {
    color: #151A96;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-decoration: none;
#issues_menu a:hover {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-weight:bold;
    font-style: oblique;
    text-decoration: none;
#issues_menu a:active {
    color: #151A96;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-decoration: none;
#archives {
    padding-top: 15px;
    padding-right: 15px;
    padding-bottom: 20px;
    padding-left: 0px;
.landscape_textbox {
    width: 500px;
    margin-right: 0px;
    margin-left: 30px;
    padding-top:35px;
    padding-bottom: 25px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
.landscape_textbox_hdr {
    width:500px;
    height:38px;
    margin:auto;
    padding:0;
    background-image:
url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%2 0Header.png);
.landscape_textbox_middle {
    width:auto;
    margin:auto;
    padding-top: 12px;
    padding-bottom: 12px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/lan dscapte%20Textbox%20Middle.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-y;
.landscape_textbox_content {
    width:450px;
    padding:25px;
.landscape_textbox_ftr {
    width:500px;
    height:44px;
    margin:auto;
    padding:0;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Lan dscape%20Textbox%20Footer.png);
#footer {
    padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear above it. */
    width: 960px;
    height: 222px;
    background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Footer%20_ 960.png);
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
#footer p {
   margin: 0px; /* zeroing the margins of the first element in the footerwill avoid the possibility of margin collapse - a space between divs */
    padding:0px; /* padding on this element will create space, just as the the margin would have, without the margin collapse issue */
    text-align:center;
    margin-left: 50px;
    margin-right: 50px;
    padding: 10px;
    font-size: small;
#footer h5 {
text-align:center;
.fltrt { /* this class can be used to float an element right in your page. The floated element must precede the element it should be next to on the page. */
    float: right;
    margin-left: 8px;
.fltlft { /* this class can be used to float an element left in your page */
    float: left;
    margin-right: 8px;
.clearfloat { /* this class should be placed on a div or break element and should be the final element before the close of a container that should fully contain a float */
    clear:both;
    height:0;
    font-size: 1px;
    line-height: 0px;
.dropcap {
    display: block;
    float: left;
    line-height: 80%;
    font-size: 250%;
    font-weight: bolder;
    color: #000066;
    padding: .03em .1em 0 0;
.red_arrows {
    list-style-position: outside;
    list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Arrow%20Large.png);
.blue_bullets {
    list-style-position: outside;
    list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Bullet%20Medium%20Fu ll.png);
.attention {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-size:x-large;
    font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: italic;
    font-weight:900;
.attention_small {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-size:large;
    font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: italic;
    font-weight:900;
.table {
    table-layout:fixed;
.blue {
    color: #00F;
#container .mainContent_left p .blue {
    color: #0303A0;

Hi Nancy:
The specific code that I am referring to is the CSS code governing the styling of the spry menu widget that only works in IE 6 if, and only if, it remains in the head of the web page. If removed and placed in a stylesheet, the IE plugins fail to compensate for the IE 6 "gap" bug. As I said, it doesn't make sense to me that, assuming specificity is addressed, that these can not be included in an external style sheet. I am looking for a) an explanation why they must remain embedded in the web page; and 2) any means by which I might be able to export them.
I will reproduce the specific css style (code) below: it should also be visable through reveal source --
Thanks again, Steve Webster.
The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows: (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
<style type="text/css">
/* -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles -- */
/* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
/* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
   these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or rightpointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
     These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
   .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, allsubmenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
    .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
   You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top levelmenu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
    They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
        MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
        MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
        MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned.
        MenuBarFixedCentered - - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                        and centered in its parent container.
        MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
    In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
   with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets onthe same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
    there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
#MenuBar {
    background-color:transparent;
   font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on onMenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 17px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 80em;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
    background-color:#000088;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment-Dark.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#ffffff;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 15px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:#000088;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:0px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none;
    padding: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 10px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#ffffff;
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
    width: 240px;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #2E35A3;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Nav igation%20Bar%20Segment%20Light2.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color:#2E35A3;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
   min-width:0%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than theparent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                    and your personal taste.
                   0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of theMenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                    on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                    menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                    the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element forselection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu"(MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in aselector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets thespecificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs assignificant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lotof these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes formodern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these,as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.jsscript.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser isInternet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditionalcomments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
/* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
/* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
</style>

Problem with Spry Menu Bar 2.0 (1.0) re - CSS

Hello:
I am having some difficulty with a Spry Menu Bar (horizontal) 2.0 (1.0) that I have created. Initially I thought the problem was with regard to rendering issues on IE 6.0, however the problem seems to be more general than that and I have come to believe that it has to do with the CSS created by the Widget Browser and modified once imported into the webpage. Hence I have elected to post my issue here rather than on the spry page.
I have relied on the tutorial provided by David Powers (Bayside.css) and in addition other documentation regarding the Spry menu bar UI. The problem appeared to be one of IE 6 rendering the page with a gap that is created when the drop down menus appear, thus pushing down any divs that appear below the page.
However, through a painstaking process of trial and error my problem now seems to be that when I export the CSS generated by the widget browser to an external style sheet (the general style sheet governing the whole site), it conflicts with other CSS styles regarding links etc. The end result is that all the padding, background colours, background images, and text colours are lost. So long as the CSS remains within the head this doesn't happen.
My thinking is that this must have to do with issues of specificity, inheritence, etc.
The site can be viewed at the following URL: http://www.aclco.org/testing/index.html. In its current form all CSS related to the menu bar is found in the head of each page. (see CSS below).
My question is can I establish a separate style sheet for the horizontal menu bar and have those styles applied specifically (and only) to the menu bar. My only other alternative is to work through the remainder of the general style sheet and work through any issues of specificity/inheritance -- which may be the "best" practice, but it risks causing other "cascading" [sic] problems elsewhere.
Any advice or suggestions or directed reading (that would point to a solution) that could be offered would be greatly appreciated.
Steve Webster
The CSS governing the horizontal menu bar is as follows: (currently the following CSS is embedded in the head of the web page)
<style type="text/css">
/* -- Begins Spry Menu Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal menu bar Custom styles -- */
/* BeginOAWidget_Instance_2141544: #MenuBar */
/* Settable values for skinning a Basic menu via presets. If presets are not sufficient, most skinning should be done in
    these rules, with the exception of the images used for down or right pointing arrows, which are in the file SpryMenuBasic.css
     These assume the following widget classes for menu layout (set in a preset)
    .MenuBar - Applies to all menubars - default is horizontal bar, all submenus are vertical - 2nd level subs and beyond are pull-right.
    .MenuBarVertical - vertical main bar; all submenus are pull-right.
    You can also pass in extra classnames to set your desired top level menu bar layout. Normally, these are set by using a preset.
    They only apply to horizontal menu bars:
        MenuBarLeftShrink - The menu bar will be horizontally 'shrinkwrapped' to be just large enough to hold its items, and left aligned
        MenuBarRightShrink - Just like MenuBarLeftShrink, but right aligned
        MenuBarFixedLeft - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedLeft', and left aligned.
        MenuBarFixedCentered - - Fixed at a specified width set in the rule '.MenuBarFixedCentered',
                        and centered in its parent container.
        MenuBarFullwidth - Grows to fill its parent container width.
    In general, all rules specified in this file are prefixed by #MenuBar so they only apply to instances of the widget inserted along
    with the rules. This permits use of multiple MenuBarBasic widgets on the same page with different layouts. Because of IE6 limitations,
    there are a few rules where this was not possible. Those rules are so noted in comments.
#MenuBar {
    background-color:transparent;
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; /* Specify fonts on on MenuBar and subMenu MenuItemContainer, so MenuItemContainer,
                                                MenuItem, and MenuItemLabel
                                                at a given level all use same definition for ems.
                                                Note that this means the size is also inherited to child submenus,
                                                so use caution in using relative sizes other than
                                                100% on submenu fonts. */
    font-weight: normal;
    font-size: 17px;
    font-style: normal;
    padding:0;
/* Caution: because ID+class selectors do not work properly in IE6, but we want to restrict these rules to just this
widget instance, we have used string-concatenated classnames for our selectors for the layout type of the menubar
in this section. These have very low specificity, so be careful not to accidentally override them. */
.MenuBar br { /* using just a class so it has same specificity as the ".MenuBarFixedCentered br" rule bleow */
    display:none;
.MenuBarLeftShrink {
    float: left; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarRightShrink {
    float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
    width: auto;
.MenuBarFixedLeft {
    float: left;
    width: 80em;
.MenuBarFixedCentered {
    float: none;
    width: 80em;
    margin-left:auto;
    margin-right:auto;
.MenuBarFixedCentered br {
    clear:both;
    display:block;
.MenuBarFixedCentered .SubMenu br {
    display:none;
.MenuBarFullwidth {
    float: left;
    width: 100%;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar .MenuItemContainer {
    padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
    margin: 0;     /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar .MenuItem {
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 4px;
    background-color:#000088;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Navigation%20Bar%20Segm ent-Dark.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:center;
    line-height:1.4em;
    color:#ffffff;
    background-color:transparent;
    padding: 0px 18px 0px 5px;
    width: 10em;
    width:auto;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    width:1em; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem {
    font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight: bold;
    font-size: 15px;
    font-style: normal;
    background-color:#000088;
    padding:0px 2px 0px 0px;
    border-width:0px;
    border-color: #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc #cccccc;
    /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
    border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
    border-style: none;
    padding: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-top: 0px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
    padding-bottom: 10px;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
    text-align:left;
    line-height:1em;
    background-color:transparent;
    color:#ffffff;
    padding: 10px 10px 10px 10px;
    width: 240px;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover {
    background-color: #2E35A3;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Navigation%20Bar%20Segm ent%20Light2.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-x;
#MenuBar .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
    background-color:#2E35A3;
#MenuBar .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
    background-color: transparent;
    color: #ffffff;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0%; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than the parent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
    border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
    top: 100%;    /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
    left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                    and your personal taste.
                    0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of the MenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                    on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                    menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer & MenuItem padding-left will align
                    the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
    z-index:10;
#MenuBar.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
    top: 0px;
    left:100%;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
    background-color: transparent;
    min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
    top: 0px;    /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
    left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element for selection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu" (MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in a selector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6 ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets the specificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs as significant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lot of these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes for modern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
* css style block to make it easy to delete if you want to drop IE6 support.
* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these, as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js script.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser is Internet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditional comments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
    background-color: transparent; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
    color: #ffffff;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
    margin-left: -0px; /* Compensates for at least part of an IE6 "double padding" version of the "double margin" bug */
/* EndOAWidget_Instance_2141544 */
/* Ends Spry Menu Bar Widget 2.0 (1.0) Horizontal Menu Custom styles */
</style>
The CSS governing the site generally is reproduced below: (my belief is that it is the a:link, a:visited, a:hover, a:active styles that may be in conflict).
@charset "utf-8";
body {
    font: 100% Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
    min-height: 0; /* This is necessary to overcome the "haslayout" bug that is found in Windows 7 in conjuction with IE8. For More information see: URL -- http://reference.sitepoint.com/css/haslayout.html */
    margin: 0; /* it's good practice to zero the margin and padding of the body element to account for differing browser defaults */
    padding: 0;
    text-align:center; /* This allows for the centering of the container and overcomes a bug inherent in IE 5 */
    color: #000000;
    list-style-image: none;
    background-color: #FCFCFC;
h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6 {
color:#000066;
a:link {
    color: #151A96;
    text-decoration: underline;
a:visited {
    text-decoration: underline;
    color: #1B8DCD;
a:hover {
    text-decoration: none;
    color: #F30A0A;
a:active {
    text-decoration: underline;
    color: #151A96;
#container {
    width: 960px;
    margin: 0 auto; /* the auto margins (in conjunction with a width) center the page */
    text-align: left; /* this overrides the text-align: center on the body element. */
    background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Midsection%20_960.png);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
#header {
        padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear beneath it. If an image is used in the #header instead of text, you may want to remove the padding. */
        width:960px;
        height:332px;
        background-image:
        url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Header_960.png);
        background-repeat:no-repeat;
#header h1 {
    margin-right: 0px; /* zeroing the margin of the last element in the #header div will avoid margin collapse - an unexplainable space between divs. If the div has a border around it, this is not necessary as that also avoids the margin collapse */
    padding: 0; /* using padding instead of margin will allow you to keep the element away from the edges of the div */
    display:none;
#header img {
    display: none;
#Main_nav_contents {
    padding: 0;
    margin-top: 0px;
    height: 39px;
    width: 950px;
    padding-top: 275px;
    padding-left: 39px;
    z-index: 3;
#MenuBarVertical {
    margin-bottom: 50px;
    padding-top: 50px;
    padding-bottom:200px;
    padding-left: 15px;
    padding-right: 15px;
.mainContent_left {
    margin: 0;/* the right margin on this div element creates the column down the right side of the page - no matter how much content the sidebar1 div contains, the column space will remain. You can remove this margin if you want the #mainContent div's text to fill the #sidebar1 space when the content in #sidebar1 ends. */
    padding-left:30px;
    padding-right:20px; /* remember that padding is the space inside the div box and margin is the space outside the div box */
    width: 600px;
    float: left;
.sidebar_right {
    float: right; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
    width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
    margin-top: 30px;
    margin-left:0;
    margin-right:10px;
    font-size:90%;
.mainContent_right {
    margin-left: 10px;
    padding-left:30px;
    padding-right:20px;
    width: 600px;
    float: right;
.sidebar_left {
    float: left; /* since this element is floated, a width must be given */
    width: 270px; /* the actual width of this div, in standards-compliant browsers, or standards mode in Internet Explorer will include the padding and border in addition to the width */
    margin-top: 30px;
    margin-left:30px;
    margin-right:0;
    overflow: hidden;
    font-size:90%;
.main_content_centered {
    width: 650px;
    margin-left: 155px;
.main_content_centered_header {
    margin-left: 75px;
.sidebar_textbox {
    margin: 0px;
    width: 260px;
    padding: 2px;
.sidebar_textbox_header {
    width:255px;
    height:58px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20He ader.png);
.sidebar_textbox_background_middle {
     width: 255px;
    padding-top: 12px;
    padding-bottom: 10px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20Mi ddle.png);
    background-repeat: repeat-y;
.sidebar_textbox_content {
    /* The width and padding are set as follows to accomodate quirks in browser rendering and to ensure that text is contained within the background of the text box */
    width: 230px;
    padding-left: 20px;
    padding-right: 40px;
.sidebar_textbox_footer {
    width:255px;
    height:64px;
background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Portrait%20Textbox%20Foo ter.png);
#issues_menu a:link {
    color: #151A96;
    text-decoration: none;
    font-weight:bold;
#issues_menu a:visited {
    color: #151A96;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-decoration: none;
#issues_menu a:hover {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-weight:bold;
    font-style: oblique;
    text-decoration: none;
#issues_menu a:active {
    color: #151A96;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-decoration: none;
#archives {
    padding-top: 15px;
    padding-right: 15px;
    padding-bottom: 20px;
    padding-left: 0px;
.landscape_textbox {
    width: 500px;
    margin-right: 0px;
    margin-left: 30px;
    padding-top:35px;
    padding-bottom: 25px;
    font-style: normal;
    font-weight: normal;
.landscape_textbox_hdr {
    width:500px;
    height:38px;
    margin:auto;
    padding:0;
    background-image:
url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%20Header.png);
.landscape_textbox_middle {
    width:auto;
    margin:auto;
    padding-top: 12px;
    padding-bottom: 12px;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/landscapte%20Textbox%20 Middle.png);
    background-repeat:repeat-y;
.landscape_textbox_content {
    width:450px;
    padding:25px;
.landscape_textbox_ftr {
    width:500px;
    height:44px;
    margin:auto;
    padding:0;
    background-image:url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Landscape%20Textbox%20F ooter.png);
#footer {
    padding: 0; /* this padding matches the left alignment of the elements in the divs that appear above it. */
    width: 960px;
    height: 222px;
    background-image:
    url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Website%20Footer%20_960.png);
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
#footer p {
    margin: 0px; /* zeroing the margins of the first element in the footer will avoid the possibility of margin collapse - a space between divs */
    padding:0px; /* padding on this element will create space, just as the the margin would have, without the margin collapse issue */
    text-align:center;
    margin-left: 50px;
    margin-right: 50px;
    padding: 10px;
    font-size: small;
#footer h5 {
text-align:center;
.fltrt { /* this class can be used to float an element right in your page. The floated element must precede the element it should be next to on the page. */
    float: right;
    margin-left: 8px;
.fltlft { /* this class can be used to float an element left in your page */
    float: left;
    margin-right: 8px;
.clearfloat { /* this class should be placed on a div or break element and should be the final element before the close of a container that should fully contain a float */
    clear:both;
    height:0;
    font-size: 1px;
    line-height: 0px;
.dropcap {
    display: block;
    float: left;
    line-height: 80%;
    font-size: 250%;
    font-weight: bolder;
    color: #000066;
    padding: .03em .1em 0 0;
.red_arrows {
    list-style-position: outside;
    list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Arrow%20Large.png);
.blue_bullets {
    list-style-position: outside;
    list-style-image: url(../ACLCO%20Graphics%20-%20Web%20site%20Parts/Bullet%20Medium%20Full.png);
.attention {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-size:x-large;
    font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: italic;
    font-weight:900;
.attention_small {
    color: #F30A0A;
    font-size:large;
    font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-style: italic;
    font-weight:900;
.table {
    table-layout:fixed;
.blue {
    color: #00F;
#container .mainContent_left p .blue {
    color: #0303A0;

Hello Martin:
Thanks for your input. However I am not certain we have resolved this issue adequately, or understand the principles governing the css as regards this spry menu framework 2.0 (1.0).
For example, the menu only works in IE 6.0 if the css remains in the head. I agree with your original post that it shouldn't make any difference whether the css is posted in the head or in a separate style sheet (so long as specificity issues are addressed). Both should work -- and yet it doesn't.
If the CSS is placed in the separate style sheet governing the total site, it doesn't work for 6.0. If placed at the top of the style sheet, conflicts of specificity prevent the menu from rendering properly in any of the browsers causing the rules for general links to govern the menu.   This has been verified using a cross browser testing. If the styles are placed at the bottom of the style sheet to help them take precedence, they work in all the browsers except for IE 6.
The website I am building needs to support IE 6 for a variety of reasons, and because it is catering to the non-profit community and to low income persons, I am mindful of even small differences in page weight.
So for me, at least, the issue remains baffling.
I appreciate your input, but also would appreciate the input from others, and especially Adobe Community Professionals and employees. The spry framework in this regard is not well documented. I am not certain if this is exclusively a CSS problem, if it might also be complicated by the architecture of the spry framework, or if indeed other variables are at play.
I would be my hope that in resolving the problem, other users of the this particular spry framework might also benefit.
Thanks,
Steve.

Having problem with spry menu bar in Internet Explorer.

I'm having a problem with my spry menu bars in Internet Explorer.
Here are the pictures:
Firefox
Internet Explorer
HERE ARE THE CODES:
HTML CODE:
<style type="text/css">

</style>
<style type="text/css">
#apDiv3 {
    position:absolute;
    width:254px;
    height:206px;
    z-index:2;
    left: 123px;
    top: 1529px;
#apDiv4 {
    position:absolute;
    width:250px;
    height:194px;
    z-index:3;
    left: 381px;
    top: 1528px;
#apDiv5 {
    position:absolute;
    width:256px;
    height:200px;
    z-index:4;
    left: 636px;
    top: 1529px;
#apDiv6 {
    position:absolute;
    width:349px;
    height:205px;
    z-index:5;
    left: 889px;
    top: 1530px;
</style>
<style type="text/css">
#apDiv7 {
    position:absolute;
    width:887px;
    height:204px;
    z-index:6;
    left: 324px;
    top: 905px;
#apDiv8 {
    position:absolute;
    width:1295px;
    height:74px;
    z-index:1;
    left: 212px;
    top: 668px;
</style>
<script src="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBar.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<link href="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script type="text/javascript">
function MM_swapImgRestore() { //v3.0
var i,x,a=document.MM_sr; for(i=0;a&&i<a.length&&(x=a[i])&&x.oSrc;i++) x.src=x.oSrc;
function MM_preloadImages() { //v3.0
var d=document; if(d.images){ if(!d.MM_p) d.MM_p=new Array();
    var i,j=d.MM_p.length,a=MM_preloadImages.arguments; for(i=0; i<a.length; i++)
    if (a[i].indexOf("#")!=0){ d.MM_p[j]=new Image; d.MM_p[j++].src=a[i];}}
function MM_findObj(n, d) { //v4.01
var p,i,x; if(!d) d=document; if((p=n.indexOf("?"))>0&&parent.frames.length) {
    d=parent.frames[n.substring(p+1)].document; n=n.substring(0,p);}
if(!(x=d[n])&&d.all) x=d.all[n]; for (i=0;!x&&i<d.forms.length;i++) x=d.forms[i][n];
for(i=0;!x&&d.layers&&i<d.layers.length;i++) x=MM_findObj(n,d.layers[i].document);
if(!x && d.getElementById) x=d.getElementById(n); return x;
function MM_swapImage() { //v3.0
var i,j=0,x,a=MM_swapImage.arguments; document.MM_sr=new Array; for(i=0;i<(a.length-2);i+=3)
   if ((x=MM_findObj(a[i]))!=null){document.MM_sr[j++]=x; if(!x.oSrc) x.oSrc=x.src; x.src=a[i+2];}
</script>
<style type="text/css">
#apDiv2 {
    position:absolute;
    width:209px;
    height:197px;
    z-index:2;
    top: 1220px;
    left: 171px;
#apDiv9 {
    position:absolute;
    width:331px;
    height:97px;
    z-index:3;
    left: 385px;
    top: 1218px;
#apDiv10 {
    position:absolute;
    width:292px;
    height:199px;
    z-index:4;
    left: 724px;
    top: 1218px;
#apDiv11 {
    position:absolute;
    width:200px;
    height:115px;
    z-index:1;
body {
    background-color: #000;
    background-image: url();
    text-align: center;
    color: #F00;
.none {
    font-size: 80px;
    font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
    font-weight: bold;
#apDiv12 {
    position:absolute;
    width:991px;
    height:60px;
    z-index:5;
    left: 198px;
    top: 192px;
#apDiv13 {
    position:absolute;
    width:200px;
    height:115px;
    z-index:1;
    left: 588px;
    top: 322px;
</style>
<body onLoad="MM_preloadImages('images/WebConfroll.png','images/youthfootballroll.png','images/ statefbsweatshirt.png')">
<p align="center" class="none"><img src="images/footballtitle.png" width="941" height="183"></p>
<div align="center">
<ul id="MenuBar2" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
    <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">[Placeholder]</a>
      <ul>
        <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
        <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
        <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
      </ul>
    </li>
    <li><a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">[Placeholder]</a>
      <ul>
        <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
        <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
        <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
      </ul>
    </li>
    <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Videos</a>
      <ul>
        <li><a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">2008 Videos</a>
          <ul>
            <li><a href="videos/2009 videos/Glenbard part one/partone.html">Glenbard South Game</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">             &# 160;         [Placeholder]</a></li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li><a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">2009 Videos</a>
          <ul>
            <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
          </ul>
        </li>
        <li><a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">2010 Videos</a>
          <ul>
            <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
            <li><a href="#">[Placeholder]</a></li>
          </ul>
        </li>
      </ul>
    </li>
</ul>
</div>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"><span class="cent"><img src="images/bulldoghelmit.png" width="150" height="99" /></span></p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p class="cent"> </p>
<div align="center">
<ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
    <li> <a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Football Season 2008</a>
      <ul>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football2009/2008%20Defense%20Stats.pdf">Defense Stats</a></li>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football2009/2008%20Offense%20Stats.pdf">Offense and Records</a></li>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/BHS%20All%20Time%20Stats.pdf">AllTime Data</a></li>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football2009/Western%20Sun%202009.pdf">Western Sun Final Standings</a></li>
      </ul>
    </li>
    <li> <a href="#" class="MenuBarItemSubmenu">Football Season 2009</a>
      <ul>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202010/2009%20Banquet%20Record%20and%20Stats.pdf">Defense Stats</a></li>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202010/2009%20Banquet%20Record%20and%20Stats.pdf">Record Book and Offense</a></li>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202010/All-Time%20Data%202009.pdf">Alltime Data</a></li>
      </ul>
    </li>
    <li> <a class="MenuBarItemSubmenu" href="#">Football Season 2010</a>
      <ul>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202011/2011%20Checklist.pdf">2010-2011 Offseason Checklist</a></li>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202011/2010%20Defense%20Stats%20Final.pdf">Defense Stats</a></li>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202011/2010%20Stats%20Packet.pdf">Record Book and Offense</a></li>
        <li><a href="http://page.bps101.net/web/t1350/Football%202011/2010%20ALL%20TIME.pdf">Alltime Data</a></li>
      </ul>
    </li>
</ul>
</div>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"><img src="images/Batavia Youth football.png" alt="" width="869" height="200" /></p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"><a href="#" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image4','','images/WebConfroll.png',1)"></a></p>
<div align="center">
<div align="center"></div>
<div align="center"><a href="http://www.athletics2000.com/upstate8/" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image7','','images/WebConfroll.png',1)"><img src="images/WebConf.png" name="Image7" width="206" height="194" border="0" id="Image7" /></a><a href="http://www.bataviayouthfootball.org/" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image6','','images/statefbsweatshirt.png',1)"><img src="images/statefbsweatshirt.jpg" name="Image6" width="375" height="199" border="0" id="Image6" /></a><a href="http://www.bataviayouthfootball.org/" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image8','','images/youthfootballroll.png',1)"><img src="images/youth football.png" name="Image8" width="329" height="197" border="0" id="Image8" /></a></div>
</div>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"><a href="#" onMouseOut="MM_swapImgRestore()" onMouseOver="MM_swapImage('Image5','','images/youthfootballroll.png',1)"></a></p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"> </p>
<p align="center"><img src="images/Logos.png" width="1167" height="199" /></p>
<script type="text/javascript">
var MenuBar2 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar2", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
</script>
CSS CODE
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: auto 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    cursor: default;
    width: 54em;
    border-top: thick solid #00F;
    border-left: thick solid #00F;
    border-right: thick solid #00F;
    border-bottom: thick solid #00F;
    height: 2.2em;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    position: relative;
    cursor: pointer;
    width: 18em;
    float: left;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: 18em;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    width: 18em;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border: 1px solid #CCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #000;
    padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
    color: #C96;
    text-decoration: none;
    text-align: center;
    height: 1.2em;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
    background-color: #900;
    color: #009;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    background-color: #900;
    color: #FFF;
    text-decoration: underline;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
    color: #FF0;
    font-family: "Lucida Console", Monaco, monospace;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;
The website is http://wwww.bataviabulldogfootball.tk

Note that running your page through the W3C Validator gives this list of errors: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bataviabulldogfootball.tk%2F&charset=%2 8detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
I see that you have a very thin doctype at the top. I suggest you create a new page in Dreamweaver and copy the bit at the top of the page:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
Then put that code in place of these lines from your current page:
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
<head>
<meta charset="utf-8" />
I see that you have two opening <body> tags. Delete one; it is not needed. Add the preload images from the second into the first body tag and delete the second.
I see code below the closing </html> tag. Re position it before the closing </body> tag.
Because of these errors mentioned above, it was impossible to see the page. Fix and reply here when you have done so.
Also, it is not possible for me to divine what difficulty you are having. If you can please also express it in English (LOL), I'll be happy to suggest a correction for you!
Beth
p.s. Posting entire blocks of code is NEVER as helpful as giving us a link to the pages in action. I seldom read through code dumps here in the Forum.
Message was edited by: Zabeth69

Spry Menu Bar transparency problem - one solution

Like many other people I have spent several frustrating days trying to solve the problem of Spry Menu Bar sub-menus appearing to be transparent (text, etc. underneath the sub-menus shows above/through the sub-menu items). This problem manifested itself in IE7, but not in Netscape, Safari or Firefox.
I thought it must be the dreaded IE z-index problem.
I have been through most other people's questions and replies on the Adobe forums, tried all kinds of z-index changes and various other mods to my own CSS and/or the Spry CSS's - all to no avail.
My situation:
I have a Spry Menu Bar above a clicktrail and a text block. Both the clicktrail and the text block showed through the sub-menu items, which drop-down over them.
All three items are located in relative-positioned divs, necessary because the whole page design is contained in a self-centralizing container div and absolute-positioned divs screw up the whole page layout when the screen size or browser window size changes.
(Sorry, I can't upload the files to a website at the moment.)
The solution that works for me in Dreamweaver CS4:
I selected the divs for the clicktrail and the text block, one at a time, and selected Modify > Arrange > Send to Back in Dreamweaver CS4.
I then selected these two items again and selected Modify > Arrange > Bring to Front.
Finally I selected the div containing the Spry Menu Bar and selected Modify > Arrange > Bring to Front. The thought behind this was that this would put the Spry Menu Bar on top of everything else - and it works!
This solution works in all four browsers, but don't ask me how! I can't see any change in any CSS, nor in my template code. All I can see is a strange, flashing vertical line (like an enormous cursor - about 10 cm [3"] high) in the middle of the template page only (and only in Dreamweaver) if I click on the page background. I can neither find an explanation for this nor anything in the coding which might cause it. By the way; the z-index for the menu div =2, the z-index for the clicktrail div is not defined and the z-index for the div for the text block is set to auto. I haven't tried other values and to be honest I'm not sure what they were set to before I applied the above 'solution'.
But hey - who the hell cares - my site works!
I hope this helps someone else out of an absolute hell-hole...if someone out there can explain where to find the code that had been changed or added by doing this I'd like to know. I don't like things I can't explain - even if they do work!

This is where the browser is told to supply a white background
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
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     cursor: pointer;
     background-color: #fff;
     padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
     color: #333;
     text-decoration: none;
Vhange the value to transparent.
Also the last line int the CSS should be removed as in
filter: "alpha(opacity=60)";
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